Talk:CumEx-Files

Improvements needed

I don't know much at all about this topic, but I landed here, and making a quick assessment of the introductory paragraph, there seem to be some significant issues here:

• Two of the figures quoted in the introduction, $62.9 billion and $36.2 billion, along with $63.2 billion in the side box, are given in dollars (presumably USD). Since this is mostly a European scandal, these should be in euros.
• It's stated that "The five hardest hit countries may have lost at least $62.9 billion". Presumably this is cumulative, and if so then the word 'cumulatively' should be appended to it for clarity.
• Trying to double check whether or not the $62.9 billion figure is indeed cumulative I followed the cited reference which led to a Danish article in which the only figures quoted are '12.7 billion kroner' along with some figures in an image that appear to be in the millions of kroner.
• Following the reference against the $63.2 billion figure in the sidebar (which is strange being ever so slightly larger than the $62.9 billion figure in the intro - surely all other countries must have been hit harder than 300 million collectively?), the referenced article only includes figures of €12 billion in reference to Germany and a €140m claim. So this reference doesn't support the text it's placed against either.
• The reference against the claim that Germany was hit hardest does claim that "The scandal has cost Germany, Denmark, Belgium, France and Italy a total of 519.2 billion Norwegian kroner.", which translates to €43.6B ($51.2B USD), which could be useful, but skimming a translation I couldn't see any other useful figures, including not seeing anything about Germany having lost $36.2 billion.
• The last reference against estimated minimal losses of "€17 billion for France, €4.5 billion in Italy, €1.7 billion in Denmark and €201 million for Belgium" at least does say that. (Whether or not it's a reliable news source I have no idea though).
• The following BBC article from 2021 suggests a total loss of €150B, which matches the figure stated on the linked 'website' in the sidebar: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58984813
• Scrolling down the linked 'website' (presumably an official resource published by the collective set of involved investigative agencies), there's a diagram indicating losses for various countries of: €36B Germany, €33.4B France, €27B Netherlands, €18.9B Spain, €13.3B Italy, €7.5B Belgium, €4.9B USA, €4.8B Switzerland, €2.2B Luxemburg, €1.7B Denmark, and €1.2B Austria (totalling €150.9B).

DiscreetParrot (talk) 20:50, 20 December 2025 (UTC)