Talk:Cossack Hetmanate

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2023

the status page in the right shouldn't exist because its not true so will you please remove it? Dan69182 (talk) 14:32, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Tollens (talk) 19:35, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

the protectorate is wrong

as the treaty of pereyaslav was signed in 1654 to help the cossack

hetmanate to not fight the commonwealth. on 24 october 1656 russia made a treaty with poland and khmelnytsky said that russia violated the treaty so he broke the treaty of pereyaslav and joined a coalition with Sweden Dan69182 (talk) 09:39, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

My revert

I reverted massive changes that included removal big referenced chunks with unconvincing edit summaries such as "Most of it was wrong so i decided to delete it for the better" and addition of large unreferenced pieces. Please explain your deletions here, in article talk page. - Altenmann >talk 16:36, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Use of the blue and yellow version

I invite the people who watch this page to take part in the following discussion:Talk:Cossack with musket#Use of the blue and yellow version--Raimundo57br (talk) 03:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC).

Requested move 1 March 2026

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 19:05, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

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Cossack Hetmanate → The Hetmanate – The Hetmanate is the far more common name than Cossack Hetmanate:

• Google Ngram Viwer shows a clear preference for the Hetmanate over Cossack Hetmanate
• The Ukrainian Wiki (and the Russian and Polish Wikis too, for that matter) use a variant of the Hetmanate
• Academic works used as sources on this and other, Cossack-related pages generally call it the Hetmanate as well, for example Subtelny's 'Ukraine: A History' or Plohky's 'The Cossack Myth History and Nationhood in the Age of Empires'
• Even on this page, there's many instances of simply 'the Hetmanate' being used rather than Cossack Hetmanate

I don't think this'd be a very controversial move, but I thought to bring it up anyway. Mnohohrishnyi (talk) 19:52, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

The Hetmanate is a common term in Ukrainian historiography, but IMO it tells little to non-involved people here on English Wikipedia. Hetman was a position which also existed in Poland-Lithuania and Czechia, among others, so the term "Hetmanate" produces no ethnic/national connotation. The term "Cossack" is really important in this respect, because people of the Hetmanate, and Ukrainians in general, were frequently called "Cossack Nation". For example, Magocsi in his History of Ukraine simply calls the polity Cossack State. Skoropadsky (talk) 23:04, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

Oppose; the term Hetmanate usually refers to the Ukrainian State of Pavlo Skoropadsky. Apart from that, it is a general name for the rule of a hetman, which rarely, but nevertheless, also refers to the authority of Polish and Lithuanian hetmans. Furthermore, the correct title of the article should be "Hetmanate", not "The Hetmanate".Marcelus (talk) 11:57, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

• Oppose. Solution in search of a problem. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:20, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

Oppose the Hetmanate usually refers to Skoropadsky's regime—blindlynx 14:33, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.