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Latest comment: 4 months ago by Aviationwikiflight in topic GA reassessment?
Good articleComair Flight 5191 has been listed as one of the Engineering and technology good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
On this day... Article milestones
DateProcessResult
August 28, 2006Peer reviewReviewed
October 12, 2006Good article nomineeListed
December 4, 2009Good article reassessmentKept
On this day... A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on August 27, 2010.
Current status: Good article

Memorial

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I am adding a small section about the Flight 5191 Memorial which was dedicated on the fifth anniversary of the crash. I serve on the Flight 5191 Memorial Commission and had a family member on the flight. Serpentor74 (talk) 17:04, 15 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

You had a family member on that plane?
I am sorry 😥 Bucky winter soldier (talk) 13:42, 6 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Runways

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What was the deal with the runways. Not just this plane had a problem with runway 22 and runway 26 Quoting from article: "In 1993, a commercial jet at Blue Grass Airport was cleared for takeoff on Runway 22, but mistakenly took Runway 26 instead. Tower personnel noticed the mistake and canceled the aircraft's takeoff clearance just as the crew realized their error. The aircraft subsequently departed safely from Runway 22. An identical occurrence took place in January 2007 when a Learjet lined up on Runway 26, but again the error was noticed and corrected before the flight took off." Did this airport not have good maps or runway labeling? Bucky winter soldier (talk) 13:44, 6 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

See the NTSB report. Polygnotus (talk) 16:21, 20 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

"... however, Captain Jeffrey Clay was responsible for taxiing to the wrong runway." << FIX needed

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From the lede, in the last paragraph:

"... James Polehinke, was the pilot flying at the time of the accident... however, Captain Jeffrey Clay was responsible for taxiing to the wrong runway."

This statement needs to be changed. Why? Because to say that the Captain "was responsible" implies that the pilot flying was not responsible. It might be accurate to say that the Captain was, but it is wholly deficient to present this implication that the pilot flying had NO responsibility for taxiing to the proper runway.

One way to fix this is to remove the "however", and insert a key word so that the revised statement says this:

"... James Polehinke, was the pilot flying at the time of the accident... . Captain Jeffrey Clay was the one who had primary responsibility for taxiing to the wrong runway."

This will make it clear that the right-seater had the obligation to confirm that he was taking off from the proper runway. To back up the action taken by the Captain. Or in this case, that he had the obligation to correct the fatal mistake made by the Captain. Way down in the body of the article, in the Investigation section regarding Probable Cause, it states this:

"NTSB investigators concluded that the likely cause was that Clay and Polehinke ignored clues that indicated that they were on the wrong runway..." (my emphasis)

So if the reader dives all the way down toward the bottom of the article, the responsibility of BOTH pilots having made this error becomes perfectly clear. But it is a disservice... actually, it is a distortion, to present this implication up top in the lede that the pilot flying did not have responsibility for this fatal error. --Tdadamemd20 (talk) 06:20, 7 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

GA reassessment?

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This article currently fails the good article criteria. There are numerous unsourced passages that need fixing in addition to a "Failed verification" tag and a "Better source needed" tag. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 07:36, 8 March 2026 (UTC)Reply