Talk:Collation

Mc

When I briefly did a stint as a library assiant ~1985, I was taught that in the dollation of last names 'Mc' always alphabetized as 'Mac'. Thus 'McCarthy' comes before 'Mary'. Is this practice still standard and is this the right place to reference it? JRP 16:44, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• Not for all applications. Windows won't sort filenames that way. But the general practice is considered to be a sub-topic of "tailoring", which adapts the collation to specific needs. Compare the chapter "5.1 Preprocessing" in Unicode Collation Algorithm Pjacobi 17:05, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

In Scotland, where surnames beginning in Mac, Mc or M‘ (the last should use a "turned comma" Unicode U+2018) are common, they are sometimes treated as all one letter (as they are variant representations of the same 'word'), which is deemed to come between L and M. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 185.74.232.130 (talk) 11:41, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Radical and stroke ordering with Chinese characters

People familiar with Chinese characters are aware that a person looks up a character with an unknown pronunciation by finding the radical, then counting the number of strokes in the remaining part of the character. However, when two characters have the same radical and the same stroke count, what determines which character is listed first? --69.171.160.211 (talk) 02:43, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

"Sort key" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Sort key. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 26#Sort key until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:01, 26 December 2020 (UTC)