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Latest comment: 4 months ago by Dizzycheekchewer in topic GA review

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron talk 04:17, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

  • ... that Club Chalamet is the internet's most prominent Timothée Chalamet fan?
Created by Jolielover (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 30 past nominations.

jolielover♥talk 12:53, 12 October 2025 (UTC).Reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Earwig's has only flagged direct quotes from the sources. Looks good. ALT2 seems the most interesting hook of those presented here. I would also make a few adjustments to the main hook, and ALT1:

    "... that news outlets have described Club Chalamet as the internet's most prominent fan of Timothée Chalamet?

    ALT1: "... that Club Chalamet has been described as an integral part of stan twitter?"

    ✦ Saltymagnolia ✦ 15:14, 20 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

    GA review

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    This review is transcluded from Talk:Club Chalamet/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

    Nominator: Jolielover (talk · contribs) 17:54, 22 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

    Reviewer: Dizzycheekchewer (talk · contribs) 20:55, 13 February 2026 (UTC)Reply


    Hi there, I'll review this article. I'll have some comments within a day or so and we can go from there. Thanks for all your work on it already!

    GA review
    (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
    1. It is reasonably well written.
      a (prose, spelling, and grammar): Green tickY
      b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): Red XN
    2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
      a (references): Green tickY
      b (citations to reliable sources): ?
      c (OR): Red XN
      d (copyvio and plagiarism): Green tickY
    3. It is broad in its coverage.
      a (major aspects): Red XN
      b (focused): Green tickY
    4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
      Fair representation without bias: Red XN
    5. It is stable.
      No edit wars, etc.: Green tickY
    6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
      a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): Green tickY
      b (appropriate use with suitable captions): Green tickY

    Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

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    1. a) No major issues, but a couple things. The article uses "at least" a few times, which is partly a NOR concern, but also just imprecise language. There is also somewhat avoidant language, referring to criticism of Cromer in the passive voice or as "mockery" or other bias. I get into that later down broadly, but the language/grammar also catches my attention on that score.

    • MOS: Lead:
      • "She created her Twitter account ... to create a space for older fans of his." first is the repetition of "create", but more substantively, while she mentions the age angle in the WSJ article, it doesn't say that was why she started the account. She started it because of liking TC. I would take it out of the lead and then rephrase the similar portion in the body of the article.
      • also in the lead "her virality in 2023" conjures, at least to me, more disease than meme. I can't dissect the whole etymology there, but it just reads a little off. I would change it to "viral moment" or something, but that's a quibble
      • "anti-ageism activist." There's little to nothing in the body that presents her as an activist. Posting online is generally recognized as the lowest form of activism and to the extent that Cromer does that, it's only narrowly focused on one area of her interest. Even then she's not advocating for changes, she's saying a deck is stacked against her favored person. That's not a bad thing, but it's not activism and it's not really "anti-ageism"
    • MOS: Layout—"Career" isn't a good name for that section. Her career is technically as an executive. I would recommend something else, maybe "Social Media" or something to that effect. I'm also not a fan of combining Early life and Personal life.


    2

    • Unsure on most of the first 6-7 sources (besides the WSJ) and #12 (which seems superfluous, but otherwise doesn't seem like a source to rely on), but otherwise things seem in order. The first group of sources seem mostly in order, but a couple (the DFP and the Can Press) seem to leap to conclusions and are also otherwise clipped.
    • To that point, those (and the aforementioned "at least") bring up NOR concerns. If there's not reliable information that says she lived in Ann Arbor until 2006 specifically, it's not worth including. It might not be worth including, but moreso if you have to use interpretation to make that conclusion. One of the at leasts, in the second paragraph of "Career" is contradicted (kind of) by the WSJ or R29 article which show that she met him at Coachella in 2022 as well as at Wonka. If you include it, it's much better to say that they have met as many documented/verifiable as you can and then if it's wrong or changes, you can update it.
      • Either way, I would go through and make sure you adjust the more interpretative word choice and sentences. Right now its coming across as OR.


    3 and 4. This was what first struck me as a possible problem for GA qualification. The main WSJ article you cite frames her as a controversial figure (and I've anecdotally mostly encountered CC as a subject of polarizing debate), but that's only a small, offhanded part of the article's content. I'd recommend a full section/subsection on her controversies or criticism of CC, but I would very much at least balance the "Reception" section. Right now, it's a) she is a prominent TC fan and b) people are ageist/sexist/racist. That doesn't accurately reflect a person covered by the WSJ as "the Most Divisive" or by the CBC as "villain."

    • Also while part of the controversy is Kylie, which you do reference (though not really accurately to the debate, as it were, in which conservatively 90 percent are against CC), the WSJ and other articles go into the tone of her post and her interactions with others on social media as part of what makes her vexing (the WSJ article quotes Ira Madison extensively giving comment on her issues, may be worth including).
    • In the Reception section, some of the quotes are intentionally backhanded. Like Pandya of Vulture is being tongue-in-cheek, so it doesn't add much to include that as an authority. The Hoepfner is also a misquote (tame is quoted instead of tamest), but I don't really get what it's going for with either quote.

    5 Some extensive edits from other parties, but it doesn't look like any edit warring.

    I'm sure it's not with any ill intent, but right now, this is an article about a polarizing public figure that comes across as defensive of her. It doesn't include many of the critiques of her online behavior and it makes efforts to both present her as pre-eminent (she only has like 50k followers) and also unduly criticized/mocked (the ageism and misogynoir claims, based on one article from The Independent). Again, I see that many people have worked on this, so I'm sure there's no bad faith, but it right now doesn't match balance or NPOV.

    6 The one picture seems good and makes sense, but I would check if there were any PD or otherwise free photos from the lookalike contest. I know they were very social media driven, so could be a chance. Or, and this is a completely optional suggestion, if there were a photo that more represented TC with fans and/or paparazzi or something. Might not be anything or anything good, but worth considering.


    Overall

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    There are some significant fixes needed, but not enough to quickfail it. I think this could make an interesting GA article. If you can make some changes in the next week, let me know and I will re-check it.

    Thanks for your review. So, I wanted to be very careful about the fact that she is quite controversial and has a lot of controversies, as she's a living person; appears I've been too careful. I'll try to get back to all of these suggestions soon. jolielover♥talk 07:14, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply


    Hey there, @Dizzycheekchewer:. I'm really sorry it has to come to this, but I admit, I don't think I'll be able to implement all of the changes you have suggested, since you consider it far from GA at this point. I'm very sorry. I've been busy with exams and my country is being bombed, so I don't think I can finish it. Unsure of the future of the internet or safety here. Again, I am so sorry. jolielover♥talk 17:26, 28 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

    @Jolielover No worries at all. I'm so sorry that you have to deal with that and wish you as much peace/safety as possible. The article is legitimately an asset for people trying to figure out Club Chalamet, even as I feel it doesn't quite meet the GA standard. So certainly an excellent job there.
    I will fail this for now, but may check on it myself in the next few weeks and see if I can help improve it. Dizzycheekchewer (talk) 19:06, 28 February 2026 (UTC)Reply