Talk:Clipper route

Good sailing time?

"A good sailing time for the 3,275 miles to this point would have been around 21 days; however, an unlucky ship could spend up to three weeks crossing the doldrums" --- is this some kind of joke? Even my dog knows 21 days equals 3 weeks [Unsigned]

If the passage is read carefully, it means that a good sailing time from England is 21 days, then an additional 3 weeks might be needed to pass through the doldrums to the S trade winds --mervyn 15:25, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Re-phrased.Pustelnik (talk) 14:11, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Rating

Rated as start class, need to begin process to upgrade to B. Pustelnik (talk) 14:11, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Citations?

The outward bound course, described as staying west in the Southern Atlantic appears to contradict Chichester's research in Gipsy Moth, and Admiralty Ocean Passages for the World 1954 (sailing section 1927 drawn from commercial sail records.)

Modern use contains a specific error regarding the Sunday Times Golden Globe Race, stating only Robin Knox-Johnston completed a circumnavigation. In fact, both Knox-Johnston and Moitessier completed circumnavigations; Knox-Johnston completed the race, while Moitessier continued on around the globe another half circumnavigation to the Society Islands - failing to complete the race even though he was in the lead when he decided not to finish it. - Amgine (talk) 05:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Vito Dumas

It should also be mentioned Vito Dumas sailed the high latitudes route during WW II, 20 some years before Chichester. - Amgine (talk) 06:21, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Joshua Slocum

The Variations section that describes Slocum circumnavigating by way of Cape Horn is incorrect, I think. To the best of my knowledge, Slocum used the Strait of Magellan to pass from the Atlantic to the Pacific. I have no recollection of him ever rounding Isla Hornos proper. My recollection would seem to be supported by Wiki Slocum entry: [] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trane Francks (talk • contribs) 07:25, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Great Circle?

The route on the map is not a Great Circle; it keeps to the 40°S parallel. jnestorius^(talk) 21:09, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Homeward voyage the City of Adelaide

This is not the clipper route. It goes against all other descriptions used in this same article and by every other user of the term. 166.137.208.30 (talk) 07:28, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

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Dubious

The name of this article could be categorised as dubious. There is no good quality reference to support it – Francis Chichester was not a maritime historian, so not really an RS for a historical subject. (See WP:HISTRS) Much of the rest of the article is either dubious or demonstrably wrong. For instance, sailing ships continued to be used from Europe to Australia and New Zealand after the opening of the Suez Canal as steamships still did not have the fuel economy to carry commercial cargoes for that distance. See SS Aberdeen (1881) for when steam started to replace sail on routes to Australia. Clippers sailed on routes other than those shown on the map in the article and some of those other routes have, in modern times, been described (for commercial reasons) as clipper routes.

Overall, this article needs either to be completely rewritten with quality references or deleted. ThoughtIdRetired _TIR 22:09, 31 March 2025 (UTC)