Talk:Christophe de Menil

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The result was: promoted by Dclemens1971 talk 00:00, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

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• ... that Christophe de Menil was the costume designer for Robert Wilson for twenty years?

• Source: “ Around 1980, she began putting her talents as a designer to work in a professional capacity, creating clothes for productions mounted by avant-garde theater director and playwright Robert Wilson. She would continue to design for him for the next twenty years.”

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• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Téléscaphe
  • Comment: Alt hooks welcome!

Created by Thriley (talk) and Scu ba (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 184 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 22:47, 22 August 2025 (UTC).

• @Thriley and Scu ba: Please address the {{one source}} tag on the article. Also, this wouldn't actually be eligible as a new article but is eligible as a 5x expansion.--Launchballer 18:15, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

@Thriley: I'm planning on giving this a full review, but before that, I would suggest you propose alternate hooks first. The hook as currently written may not be interesting or understandable to readers who don't know who Wilson is. Once new hooks are proposed I can review this; I could have made some suggestions, but given that she is a recent BDP, the ones I had in mind were tricky. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:49, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Christophe de Menil had a long history of supporting "difficult" art projects according to The New York Times? Source : Thriley (talk) 16:26, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

The article was moved to mainspace 10 days before the nomination, so technically it wouldn't be eligible as a new article. As Launchballer said, it also technically counts as a 5x expansion from August 14th, although it was nominated on the 22nd which is eight days after. This is still allowed per the built-in extension so I'll accept it. The article is long enough and I did not find any close paraphrasing. The original "one source" issue has been addressed so that should no longer be an issue. A full QPQ has been completed. I am ready to approve ALT1 once an excerpt of the NYT Times page is provided as it is paywalled for me. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:19, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: Not paywalled for me ("Christophe, a tall, graceful woman, who has a long history of supporting difficult art projects, began designing costumes for Robert Wilson in 1981."), and Archive.ph could bypass the paywall anyway.--Launchballer 21:27, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:14, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

Narutolovehinata5, for copyvio reasons, should the hook attribute the whole quote like so?

ALT1a: ... that Christophe de Menil had "a long history of supporting 'difficult' art projects", according to The New York Times?

Based on Launchballer's excerpt from the source I updated the article to quote the whole phrase in that way. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 23:59, 22 September 2025 (UTC)