Talk:Charles Scarisbrick
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Fritz Scarisbrick
[edit]He is known for driving an early Benz racing car. Here is something from Google AI about the children of William Scarisbrick:
"When reconstructing the family of William Scarisbrick (1837–1904) and his wife Sophia Friederike Eleonore Spangenberg (whom he married in Wiesbaden in 1893 after many decades together), the children generally recorded in genealogical databases, regional Hessian indexes, and property trusts include: [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Charles Frederick Maria Scarisbrick (21 January 1860 – 1908) – Born in Hesse; he later returned to England and married Rosalie Nevison in 1885. [, 2, 3]
Charles Ewald Scarisbrick – Recorded alongside Charles Frederick in several family trust documents and property indexes tracking the Scarisbrick estate inheritance. [1, 2]
Fritz Scarisbrick (Friedrich) (8 November 1868 – 2 November 1907) – Born in Hanau, he is officially listed in German directories as a Rentner (independent gentleman/pensioner living off family capital) before his death in 1907. [1, 2]
Sophie Thomas Scarisbrick – Listed as a sibling in nineteenth-century Hessian genealogical indices mapping William and Sophia's household."
Charles Matthews (talk) 19:48, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
More:
Q: The sister Sophie Thomas Scarisbrick was married: I have seen the variant name "Sophie Thom Scarisbrick". Can you give me details of her husband and family?
"Response A
The details concerning Sophie Thomas Scarisbrick (and her variant name "Sophie Thom") are somewhat obscured in standard English biographical indexes because she lived, married, and established her family within Germany's Hessian society.However, cross-referencing German civil registries from Hanau, Wiesbaden, and Frankfurt yields the following specific family trajectory:
The Husband: Dr. Carl Thom
Sophie married Dr. Carl Thom (frequently recorded in German directories as Sanitätsrat Dr. Carl Thom). He was a highly respected medical doctor and eventual Privy Sanitary Councillor (Sanitätsrat, an honorary title bestowed on distinguished physicians in imperial Germany).The variant spelling you encountered—"Sophie Thom Scarisbrick"—is a result of the traditional German naming custom where a married woman appends her maiden name after her husband's surname, effectively becoming Sophie Thom, née Scarisbrick (or occasionally hyphenated as Thom-Scarisbrick).
Family and Lifespan Details
Residence: Following their marriage, Sophie and Dr. Carl Thom resided primarily in the Frankfurt am Main and Wiesbaden areas, aligning closely with where William Scarisbrick spent his later years.Sophie's Death (1918): Sophie passed away in 1918. She was laid to rest in the Nordfriedhof (North Cemetery) in Wiesbaden, which served as the primary burial ground for the Scarisbrick family line in Germany. Her mother, Sophia Friederike Eleonore Spangenberg (Frau William Scarisbrick), was later buried in the same cemetery following her own death.A Note on the "Thomas" vs. "Thom" DiscrepancyIn early English genealogical transcriptions (such as early drafts of family trust indices mapping the Scarisbrick Hall estate out of Lancashire), German records were often roughly translated. German script reading "Sophie, Frau Dr. Thom" or "Sophie Thom" was occasionally mistranscribed by English clerks as "Sophie Thomas," creating a persistent ghost name in a few database records. The correct married surname is definitively Thom.If you are expanding the family section of the Wikipedia article, let me know if you would like me to help translate or look up any Hessian state archive records (Hessisches Hauptstaatsarchiv) regarding Dr. Carl Thom’s medical practice, or any Wiesbaden cemetery registries!"
Charles Matthews (talk) 19:52, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
So this is garbage, as was response B. Later we got to:
Q: The Gothaisches genealogisches Taschenbuch der uradeligen Häuser states that Sophie Thom Scarisbrick married in 1881, in Hanau, Ewald Gustav Reinbald. Is that correct?
A:"Yes, that is completely correct.The Gothaisches genealogisches Taschenbuch contains the accurate primary marriage listing. Sophie Thomasina Scarisbrick (appearing in the German text as "Sophie Thom") did indeed marry Ewald Gustav Reinbald in Hanau in 1881. My apologies for the confusion in the previous response—I conflated two separate generations of the family network."
Instructive. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:06, 6 June 2026 (UTC)