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Latest comment: 18 years ago by 62.176.111.68 in topic Name

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Before anyone charges in like a bull in a china shop saying "Bolyarka is not a diminutive of Bolyarin - it is the feminine!" - i would beg them consider this little nugget:

yes, you are technically right, to a point. however, considering the fact that ALL names of beers - and indeed other alcohols - in Bulgarian (and most if not all other Slavic languages - aside from obvious ones stemming from place-name adjectives directly referring to the neuter "pivo" - eg stolichno; pirinsko, etc[1]) are in the feminine - eg Zagorka, Kamenitza, Astika; rakiya, mastika, slivovitza, etc........

This feminine therefore, in reality, has NO conscious link to ANY female people whatsoever (except maybe in an indirect way in terms of subconscious eroticism, but that's going WAY off-course). It is, therefore, for all intents and purposes (in terms of the reasons why the name was chosen in the first place), a DIMINUTIVE - in the same way that VODKA is a DIMINUTIVE of VODA, that PALINKA is a diminutive of the verb PALIT', etc etc etc.

So, please, DON'T revert to the version that says that Bolyarka means "female noble"[2]. Ta! 62.176.111.68 (talk) 12:37, 14 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

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  1. and yes, there are exceptions such as the masculine Samogon, and there is a very good reason for this - because samogon is made of two words samo-gon. i suppose it could have been samogonka, but perhaps this was considered too long?
  2. If someone REALLY insists, perhaps one could add that "it is the (feminine) diminutive..." but that'd be getting too technical - we're not writing an article on grammatical forms here, but on beer!