Talk:Beijing dialect

Books on Beijing dialect

Radical index to Pocket dictionary and Pekingese syllabary (1893)

https://archive.org/details/radicalindextopo00goodrich

A syllabic dictionary of the Chinese language; arranged according to the Wu-Fang Yuen Yin, with the pronunciation of the characters as heard in Peking, Canton, Amoy, and Shanghai (1874)

https://archive.org/details/syllabicdictiona00willrich

https://archive.org/details/chinesediction00willrich

https://archive.org/details/wufangyuenyin00willrich

https://archive.org/details/syllabicdictiona00will

Chinese-English pocket dictionary, with Mandarin and Shanghai pronunciation, and references to the dictionaries of Williams and Giles (1911)

https://archive.org/details/chineseenglishpo00davirich

A Chinese and English dictionary : arranged according to radicals and sub-radicals / by P. Poletti (1907)

https://archive.org/details/chineseenglishdi00pole

Premières leçons de chinois, langue mandarine de Pékin: accompagnées de Thèmes et de versions et suivies d'un exposé sommaire de la langue écrite By Arnold Vissière

http://books.google.com/books?id=2DZCAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 21:55, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Phonology table

Where does this table come from? It looks interesting, but some of the "Typical pronunciation in Beijing" seem to be exaggerated pronunciation. --2.245.179.189 (talk) 22:56, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Beijing Dialect Dipthongs

There are a number of finals which differ from Standard Chinese because they are often different dipthongs with nasalised consonants. These are present on the other language versions of Wikipedia but might need some English language references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linguapalaeo (talk • contribs) 05:44, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

This article is entirely misconceived

Beijing Dialect is a sub-dialect of Hebei dialect. It is entirely distinct to the Beijing speech described here, which is the "Beijing dialect of Northern Mandarin".

I personally have studied Chinese for 47 years, and would hardly understand a word of Beijing Dialect. The most common two-syllable word in Beijing Dialect is m3me, which means "we, us".

Like everything one reads about Chinese, this article is pushing the idea that Putonghua originated in Beijing. In fact, it originated in Manchuria and Eastern Mongolia and was brought into China when it was invaded by the Manchus in 1644.

The proof: well, for one thing, you cannot find any Han Chinese who speaks Northern Mandarin correctly. If you wish to hear good Mandarin you need to go to Luanping. This is a town inhabited entirely by Manchus of the two yellow banners. I recommend that readers search "China Daily" and "Luanping". China is now, to some extent, willing to admit the truth about this language. The China Daily article confirms that outside Luanping nobody speaks Chinese correctly.

Chinese, as taught both inside and outside China, is a nonsensical form of speech which very often puts the weight of each pulse onto its middle, rather than at its beginning. This has created total confusion.

It is this incorrect pulse which has led to the invention of three sounds which simply do not exist in correct Northern Mandarin: x, j, and q. No wonder that linguists wonder at the "ambiguity" of these sounds. It's always difficult to pin down something which does not exist.

These three letters were invented in 1913, with the invention of the Bopomofo system -- entirely the work of scholars from southern China.

I doubt that anyone today still speaks Beijing Dialect, save a few very old people. It is evident that whoever wrote this article has no knowledge of Beijing Dialect.Luo Shanlian (talk) 08:27, 21 June 2020 (UTC)