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Finnish?
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Hello! The band should be named as "international" as it features a Greek and a Hungarian member... Michael13111983 (talk) 14:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Per MOS:NATIONALITY, the band should be referred to as "Finnish" because the band became notable in Finland. HorrorLover555 (talk) 14:37, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- All well and good, but seeing as I'm updating this text in an official manner - with information provided by the band directly, shouldn't this be enough if the band identify themselves as an international band?
- After all, most of their awards are coming from Europe anyway. Michael13111983 (talk) 14:46, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- The band formed in Finland, which makes them Finnish. Most other sources refer to the band as Finnish or Finnish-based. Just because there are two different members from Greece and Hungary does not make them "international", which is clearly original research. HorrorLover555 (talk) 14:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Is this proof enough? If the band identifies as International what else is there to say?
- https://www.nuclearblast.com/blogs/news/beast-in-black-announce-tour-dates-for-2025-as-special-guest-for-helloween Michael13111983 (talk) 15:07, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- One source from Nuclear Blast is not enough to deem them as "international". Most other sources I have found refer to them as Finnish. As to what is stated in MOS:NATIONALITY:
The opening paragraph should usually provide context for that which made the person notable. In most modern-day cases, this will be the country, region, or territory where the person is currently a national or permanent resident; or, if the person is notable mainly for past events, where the person was such when they became notable.
In this case, person can also be substituted for "band". Nevertheless, I will provide some sources:- "Beast In Black Releases New Song 'Power Of The Beast'". Blabbermouth.net. 28 June 2024. — This source refers to them as "Finland-based".
- Zukowski, Zenae (5 July 2024). "Beast In Black unleash "Power Of The Beast" video". Metal Insider. – This source refers to them as "Finnish".
- "Beast in Black Songs, Albums, Reviews, Bio & M..." AllMusic. – On AllMusic, they are referred to as "Finnish".
- Most of these sources I have given are a majority that refer to it as "Finnish". When even the band's official website are referring to them as "Finnish", it's time to change it back to "Finnish". HorrorLover555 (talk) 15:17, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sources are what matters most in cases like these.★Trekker (talk) 16:38, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Found more sources for "Finnish":
- Fields, Kyla (13 October 2023). "Finnish power metal group Beast In Black brings latest album to Tampa". Creative Loafing Tampa Bay. – the headline title pretty much says it all.
- "Beast In Black Guitarist: 'It's Been An Interesting, Unexpected Ride'". Blabbermouth.net. 3 November 2019. – Also referred as "Finnish melodic metallers".
- "Beast In Black". Nordic Metal. 10 November 2017. – This source refers to them as "Helsinki based", which in short is "Finnish".
- "Beast In Black: 'Blade Runner' music video". Metal Invader. – They are referred to as "Finnish heavy/power metallers".
- "Beast In Black - Dark Connection". Metal-Exposure. 28 October 2021. – Also referred to as "Finnish power metal band".
- "Beast In Black // From Hell With Love". Hysteria Magazine. 11 February 2019. – Referred to as "Finnish power metal force".
- Zukowski, Zenae (28 October 2021). "Interview: Beast In Black's Anton Kebanen talks post Battle Beast & new album 'Dark Connection'". Metal Insider. – Referred to as "Finnish heavy metallers". HorrorLover555 (talk) 17:30, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Found more sources for "Finnish":
- Sources are what matters most in cases like these.★Trekker (talk) 16:38, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- One source from Nuclear Blast is not enough to deem them as "international". Most other sources I have found refer to them as Finnish. As to what is stated in MOS:NATIONALITY:
- The band formed in Finland, which makes them Finnish. Most other sources refer to the band as Finnish or Finnish-based. Just because there are two different members from Greece and Hungary does not make them "international", which is clearly original research. HorrorLover555 (talk) 14:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Tour Section
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Hello! Why was the tour section removed? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael13111983 (talk • contribs) 09:55, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- The tour section wasn't removed. I simply shortened it down to a listing of concert tours per WP:INDISCRIMINATE and a majority of band articles utilize this as such, but I did make sure to keep the citations. And to add, the tours are already majorly covered in the History section. See the Tours section here. HorrorLover555 (talk) 12:56, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
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