Talk:Battle of Ramkani

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Can you please provide sources stating the battle was a Sikh victory? Editing the page and adding unsourced content with edit warring is not helping improve the page.

@154.80.8.229 Noorullah (talk) 06:22, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

@RaeesAbbas22 Please bring your concerns to the talk page instead of removing sourced content. Noorullah (talk) 16:45, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

In the battle of Ramkani Afghans failed to capture peshawer and retreated from battlefield, this was a defeat for Afghans.

And Sikhs successfully defended peshawer city from Afghans, this was a victory for sikhs.

Creater of this page wrote that in this battle Sikhs got victory but you are editing again and again. RaeesAbbas22 (talk) 02:02, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Because the main attributed source states that the Afghans only withdrew. The Battle of Ramkani wasn't for Peshawar. @RaeesAbbas22 Noorullah (talk) 02:16, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

No, battle was for peshawer. Dost Mohammad Khan's main objective was capture of peshawer. RaeesAbbas22 (talk) 02:59, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

No, battle was for peshawer. Dost Mohammad Khan's main objective was capture of peshawer. And he failed. RaeesAbbas22 (talk) 04:27, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Again, see the sources, stop replacing sourced content with unsourced information. @RaeesAbbas22 Noorullah (talk) 14:54, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

The specific source in the infobox you removed doesn’t state any Sikh victory. Noorullah (talk) 15:16, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Result

So after 12 hours of fighting the afghans simply decided to leave. Seems like a retreat, who fights a battle for 12 hours just to withdraw. Someone that was clearly losing. Withdraw just seems to be the nicer way of saying retreat. Historian2325 (talk) 00:29, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Also forgot to mention the hypocrisy with the battle of Kashmir 1814 being allowed to state Afghan victory even though Sikhs had to leave due to the weather, disease and delay of reinforcements but ramkanki is allowed to be inconclusive with Afghan withdrawal Historian2325 (talk) 00:37, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

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@HerakliosJulianus Noorullah (talk) 16:16, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

This page has sources that heavily lack.

Most aren't WP:RS, and fall under WP:AGEMATTERS, (such as cunningham WP:RAJ and the source from Suri)

It makes me think this page should be deleted since this has very little coverage from actual WP:HISTRS sources. Noorullah (talk) 16:23, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

I believe there's no need to delete the entire page, as I have found two additional sources that meet the criteria for WP:RS and do not fall under WP:RAJ or WP:AGEMATTERS:

1. Maharaja Ranjit Singh’s Rule in North West Frontier (1818-1839) by Zakir Khan.
2. The Last Sunset by Captain Amarinder Singh, a noted military historian (as recognized by India Today).

If these sources are still deemed insufficient, I suggest merging this page with Standoff at the Khyber Pass (1834–1835), as the battle in question is part of that event. Please let me know your thoughts. Indo-Greek 17:23, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Hm.. Looking on google scholars both seem to fit.

Seems fine to add then. Noorullah (talk) 17:52, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

I added Harbans Singhs Encyclopaedia of Sikhism: S-Z too Indo-Greek 18:30, 13 January 2025 (UTC)