Talk:Battle of Chrysopolis

Constantine and Christianity

This article is seriously flawed in its too positive identification of Constantine with Christian interests. The literature used to support this view is (with one exception) seriously dated. Modern ecclesiastical historians focus on Constantine's political interests and noncommital religious opinions. Jajafe 17:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Article scope

This article is about a battle. Does it not seem odd that with the exception of the date, it contains no actual information "about the battle"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.42.115.242 (talk) 19:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

323 or 324?

Some say 323 and some say 324, so maybe both opinions should be mentioned. Art LaPella (talk) 16:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

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@Kajmer05 and Urselius: the click on the coordinates does not move where stated. thanks 151.29.44.249 (talk) 18:08, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

I just write stuff, I have never bothered with geographic co-ordinates and have no idea how to alter them. Urselius (talk) 20:27, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

Source check for Constantine’s tactics sentence

Hello @Urselius, Quick question about the new citation you added here. I had a look at Odahl 2010, p.180, but I still cannot find anything about Chrysopolis or Constantine’s tactics on that page. Could you point me to the specific sentence in Odahl that supports did not attempt any preliminary manoeuvring? the only quote I found p. 159 says : Constantine emerged from his tent and ordered his troops to make a direct frontal assault upon the enemy I also checked the Eusebius section cited, but I may be missing the relevant line there too. Thanks for helping me locate it. -Aeengath (talk) 15:19, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

It wAS A LONG TIME AGO - NOT A NEW SOURCE BY ANY MEANS - DO WHATERVER YOU LIKE Urselius (talk) 18:51, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for confirming, I’ll remove that phrase and keep only what the cited pages support. -Aeengath (talk) 07:59, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Have replaced the wording for two reasons: 1) logic, if Constantine ordered a single frontal assault, then he did no preliminary manoeuvring, the two are entirely incompatible as one logically precludes the other. 2) relevance, we know that the earlier battle at Adrianople, was a battle of manoeuvre, with Constantine making a flank attack after deliberately misleading Licinius as to where he intended to cross the river separating the two armies. Therefore, his not manoeuvring at Chrisopolis is a novel feature of Constantine's generalship. This may have been a reflection on Constantine's lack of regard of the quality of Licinius' remaining troops, as is reflected in the recent addition, with citation, I have made to the text.

The wording concerning the lack of manoeuvre is therefore very germane and is not in need of direct support by sources using the exact same phraseology, as it is a logical extension. Urselius (talk) 11:21, 11 June 2026 (UTC)