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at-LAN-ə or at-LAN-tə?
[edit]The IPA given in the lede (/ætˈlæntə) does not match the phonetic respelling at-LAN-ə. I think dropping the second T is an accent thing rather than the formal pronunciation of the city, as it certainly would not be incorrect to say at-LAN-tə, especially in accents other than American English. Either way, the current lede is confusing.
Ther article on Toronto handles a similar difference between "official" and common pronunciation like this: /təˈrɒntoʊ/ tə-RON-toh; locally [təˈɹɒnoʊ] tə-RON-oh. I think a similar way of descibing Atlanta's pronunciation would be the best option. 2A0A:EF40:25D:4B01:A00E:AF93:3FC5:8AC0 (talk) 12:18, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
- This seems especially bad because the source currently given (which is a silly magazine article, perhaps not the best source to begin with) specifically says that the second T is not pronounced. The pronunciation currently given directly contradicts the source cited. I'd agree that the "Toronto method" would work here. Ecosnake (talk) 16:05, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
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Change "eight-time national championship winning" to "four-time national championship winning[1]" Messishotgun76 (talk) 06:27, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
Not done: Eight-time is accurate. See Georgia Bulldogs football § Championships, the team has been selected eight times as national champions. Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 06:46, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
- If the definition of national champion is amount of selections instead of claims, would this mean that the current wording of "four-time national champion Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets football" needs to be changed to "seven-time national champion Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets football"? Messishotgun76 (talk) 06:54, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
- Possibly. This would benefit from discussion on the relevant talk page, or perhaps with the College football WikiProject. Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 07:03, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
- If the definition of national champion is amount of selections instead of claims, would this mean that the current wording of "four-time national champion Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets football" needs to be changed to "seven-time national champion Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets football"? Messishotgun76 (talk) 06:54, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
Introductory photo images
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It is totally unacceptable for one of the two large introductory photos for the "Atlanta" article to be the picture of Atlanta's 1864 slave-auction house (taken from the article's "History" section). Although that photo is pertinent under "History", it is quite inappropriate for use as a prime introductory illustration for Atlanta in the 21st century. Many world cities have unpleasant episodes dating back 164 years ago, but I find no other city article in English Wikipedia with such an unsavory prime image. It should be replaced. Mason.Jones (talk) 21:26, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- The picture is in the section "American Civil War". Magnolia677 (talk) 21:34, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, the 1864 image appears in several places in Wikipedia, and it is quite pertinent in those places. However, it does not belong as a lead-in photo to the general "Atlanta" city article. No other city, state, or country article in this encyclopedia has showcased a place's unsavory past in such an egregious manner. The insistant emphasis here is totally unacceptable. Mason.Jones (talk) 21:45, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- What about this picture of Confederate soldiers defending Atlanta? Magnolia677 (talk) 21:53, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- Two contemporary images are used to introduce WP city articles and illustrate the city's 21st-century reality. No historical photos are used, and certainly not a slave-auction house from 164 years ago. This image must be replaced. Mason.Jones (talk) 22:17, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- The section it's added to is about the Civil War...which in Atlanta was pretty much about slavery and fighting. Pictures of both these events are difficult to look at for some people, but they are relevant. I think either picture would be appropriate for this section, and oppose leaving this section without a photo. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:22, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Magnolia: Today, June 25, the top of each Wikipedia city article features two large images—contemporary photos or sometimes a major monument in the city. Articles are not introduced with a slave house, a brothel, a crime scene, or a bloody 19th-century battlefield. A replacement for the slave-auction house is required at the top of the article; I am not arguing for its removal from interior text. Thank you for your interest and comments. Mason.Jones (talk) 22:53, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- The section it's added to is about the Civil War...which in Atlanta was pretty much about slavery and fighting. Pictures of both these events are difficult to look at for some people, but they are relevant. I think either picture would be appropriate for this section, and oppose leaving this section without a photo. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:22, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- Two contemporary images are used to introduce WP city articles and illustrate the city's 21st-century reality. No historical photos are used, and certainly not a slave-auction house from 164 years ago. This image must be replaced. Mason.Jones (talk) 22:17, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- What about this picture of Confederate soldiers defending Atlanta? Magnolia677 (talk) 21:53, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, the 1864 image appears in several places in Wikipedia, and it is quite pertinent in those places. However, it does not belong as a lead-in photo to the general "Atlanta" city article. No other city, state, or country article in this encyclopedia has showcased a place's unsavory past in such an egregious manner. The insistant emphasis here is totally unacceptable. Mason.Jones (talk) 21:45, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- (responding to ping) (edit conflict) This isn't the lead-in photo. Such photos are in the infobox, and the mobile view and desktop search typeahead correctly shows the skyline photo as the main article photo. The photo you're referring to is contained in the § American Civil War section, where it is relevant to the information provided and appropriate for inclusion in such a section, and thus doesn't require removal in this case. Though you may not agree with its inclusion, keep in mind that Wikipedia is not censored, and simply being
inappropriate for use as a[n ...] illustration for Atlanta in the 21st century
is not sufficient grounds for removal. If you don't wish to see certain images, there are options you can take to hide them. Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 22:54, 24 June 2026 (UTC)- No, this is a real Wikipedia thing, called the Carousel Project, which just rolled out on June 24–25. The project applies only to small-mobile views of Wikipedia (smartphones), not to larger screens (laptops), and pre-selects two images from the article to appear horizontally across the very top of each article (the "carousel"). This was probably someone's good-faith attempt to beef up WP page graphics, but the actual result is two oversized images that evoke and define the city, state, or country article for readers. The carousel at top of the article Paris makes sense, but Atlanta's slave-auction market photo introduces Atlanta to readers as a major slave market, which it never was. That is my objection: The carousels are not simply cool graphics; they become the first, base-line illustrations that readers see. The Carousel Project has not been well received so far, and an RfC is underway to decide its future. See: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC on the new Image Carousel feature. Mason.Jones (talk) 14:40, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
- Okay, that explains it. Good news is it looks like you can turn it off for now from your preferences. Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 00:00, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
- Update: After much protest in the RfC, the carousels were discontinued at the top of WP articles on small-mobile screens. Confirmed, registered editors are allowed to opt in if they wish, but carousels are no longer the default. Mason.Jones (talk) 15:05, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
- Okay, that explains it. Good news is it looks like you can turn it off for now from your preferences. Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 00:00, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
- No, this is a real Wikipedia thing, called the Carousel Project, which just rolled out on June 24–25. The project applies only to small-mobile views of Wikipedia (smartphones), not to larger screens (laptops), and pre-selects two images from the article to appear horizontally across the very top of each article (the "carousel"). This was probably someone's good-faith attempt to beef up WP page graphics, but the actual result is two oversized images that evoke and define the city, state, or country article for readers. The carousel at top of the article Paris makes sense, but Atlanta's slave-auction market photo introduces Atlanta to readers as a major slave market, which it never was. That is my objection: The carousels are not simply cool graphics; they become the first, base-line illustrations that readers see. The Carousel Project has not been well received so far, and an RfC is underway to decide its future. See: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC on the new Image Carousel feature. Mason.Jones (talk) 14:40, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
Should we include "ATL" as the abbreviation in the lead?
[edit]The title of this discussion pretty much explains the situation to set the discussion on track. Let me know your thoughts below. This guy Dannyyy (talk) 16:35, 28 July 2026 (UTC)
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