Talk:Apocope
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Merge with "apocopation"
[edit]I suggest merging this article with apocopation, which seems to describe exactly the same thing. Please discuss at Talk:Apocopation. -Pgan002 05:55, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Should this not also be merged with clipping (lexicography)? --SigPig 04:14, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Does apocopation include words which are pronounced (but not spelled) the same as the parent? Is "hi" an apocopation for "high" or just an abbreviation?
Boris B 21:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that "morning" was derived from "morrow" and "morn", which came first, in the pattern of "evening". The Old English was "morgen."--Jr mints 21:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Historical sound change
[edit]In Latin lup[us] the um is not really lost, it is replaced by le or la. I think, theses are bad exmples. Article (grammar) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.56.156.165 (talk) 11:52, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
"French pronunciation suppresses the final consonant of each word"
[edit]There are exceptions, like "sac," "oeuf," "sel," "ir" verbs and "fils." (Words ending in c, f, l and r are often exceptions, but there are exceptions to the exceptions (e.g., "estomac," "clef," and "er" verbs). I've changed this to "the final consonant of most words.) Kostaki mou (talk) 21:42, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Finding accurate examples for the lead
[edit]At the moment the lead, trying to offer examples of apocope in modern English, says
For instance, in many dialects the 't' in words like 'hot' remains unpronounced in contexts like 'hot potato'. Even longer words, such as 'Worcestershire', can undergo apocope, resulting in 'Worcester'.
In my southern British English, my partner's Canadian English, and The Wiggles's Australian English song Hot Potato the /t/ of /hot/ is not lost in 'hot potato': it becomes a glottal stop. I'm not aware of a variety of English in which apocope would take place here. A viable example would be the loss of /t/ in 'I don't know' > 'I dunno', so I'll add that in instead. But does anyone really call phonotactic effects like this 'apocope'? I'd appreciate views from people familiar with the usage of the term.
The second sentence is straightforwardly wrong: Worcester is a city, and Worcestershire is a compound noun made of the name of the city + the word shire. There's no apocope there! So I'll boldly remove that bit. Alarichall (talk) 16:03, 23 July 2025 (UTC)