Talk:Ann Dallas

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The result was: promoted by Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:25, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

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• ... that by the time she met Queen Elizabeth II, Ann Dallas was amongst "the last surviving member of the old school of painters in Kirkcudbright"?

• Source: The Galloway News, "Kirkcudbright's Right Royal Day": "the Queen ... had first looked at the stuido area where artist Richard Turner was working and then met Mrs Ann Dallas, the last surviving member of the old school of painters in Kirkcudbright"

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas family murders

Created by Usernameunique (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 89 past nominations.

Usernameunique (talk) 03:12, 7 April 2026 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: New enough, long enough, unlikely copyvio according to Earwig, very well written, and everything seems to be cited. Nice work on the article! I spotted no issues. The hook is also interesting, but has a small grammatical error. "Amongst" should only be used if "member" is plural. The article did say that there was perhaps another living member (Tom Lochhead), so it would be best just to paraphrase the quote. Perhaps something like:

• "by the time she met Queen Elizabeth II, Ann Dallas was one of the last surviving members of the old school of painters in Kirkcudbright?"

Other than that, everything seems to be fine. Good job! Chomik! (talk?) 01:04, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

• Thanks, Chomik1129. You've hit the nail on the head—the hook originally omitted the "amongst", then I found the source mentioning Tom Lochhead, so I added "amongst" to account for that. Since we're no longer using the quotation, How about tightening it to:

ALT2: ... that by the time she met Queen Elizabeth II, Ann Dallas was amongst the last surviving members of the Kirkcudbright Artists' Colony?

Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 01:24, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

• Usernameunique Looks good, now everything is perfect! Also, I appreciate the quick reply, thank you! Chomik! (talk?) 01:30, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

• Awesome, thanks Chomik1129. And right back at you re the quick response. --Usernameunique (talk) 01:40, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

GA review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Ann Dallas/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Usernameunique (talk · contribs) 20:59, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: MSincccc (talk · contribs) 18:12, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, grammar, and understandability): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.

   a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Images

• Do we have no image of the subject? MSincccc (talk) 18:15, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

• There's a sketch here, and a photo in a news article. Both would be fair use, but I'll add one of them shortly. I also reached out to her son on Facebook some time ago, but I don't think he's seen the message. --Usernameunique (talk) 20:59, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

• Added a photograph. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:57, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Prose

• Comments to follow. MSincccc (talk) 18:15, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Early life and education

• "She had a brother, Albert Weatherall." → "She had a brother, Albert."

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 17:32, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "the King Edward VII School of Art at Armstrong College, then part of Durham University" → "the King Edward VII School of Art at Armstrong College, then part of the University of Durham"

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 17:34, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "Her instructors included Herbert Maryon (in sculpture)" → "Her instructors included Herbert Maryon, who taught sculpture"

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 17:34, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Career

• In most years from at least 1929 to at least 1941,
  • Could we avoid "at least"?
    • Now from around 1929 to 1941. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:33, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
• We could link to Dedication (ritual).

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 17:47, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "During this period Weatherall also exhibited regularly" → "During this period, Weatherall also exhibited regularly"

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 17:48, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "Perhaps around this time, she also began going professionally by the given name Ann—perhaps to avoid confusion" → "Around this time, she began using the given name Ann professionally, perhaps to avoid confusion"

• Changed the second "perhaps" to "possibly". It's not clear when she began going by Ann, though, so some cautionary language is needed. --Usernameunique (talk) 17:51, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "Dallas and her husband lived first in a rented house in Kippford, then soon moved to Glenhead in Auchencairn." → "Dallas and her husband first lived in a rented house in Kippford, before moving to Glenhead in Auchencairn."

• Reworded. The "soon" (or similar) is needed, though, to show that they lived in Kippford for only a short period. --Usernameunique (talk) 17:53, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "After a decade there, around 1958 they moved to Kirkcudbright" → "After about a decade there, they moved to Kirkcudbright around 1958"

• Reworded. --Usernameunique (talk) 17:57, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "The distinction, with Kirkcudbright referred to as" → "This distinction, with Kirkcudbright referred to as"

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 17:57, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

"both Dallas and her husband focused on oil and watercolour paintings" → "both Dallas and her husband focused on oil and watercolour painting"

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 17:58, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "Around 1994, she also met Charles III (then Prince, later King)" → "Around 1994, she also met Charles III (then Prince of Wales)"

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:01, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "She carried on painting, particularly in watercolours, until near the end of her life." → "She continued painting, particularly in watercolours, until near the end of her life."

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:02, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

MSincccc (talk) 07:31, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Legacy and personal life

• "From September to October 1998—two years after Dallas died—the Harbour Cottage Gallery staged a memorial exhibition of her works." → "From September to October 1998, two years after Dallas's death, the Harbour Cottage Gallery staged a memorial exhibition of her work."

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:09, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "The exhibition included works from friends and family, from the mid-1920s until the 1990s." → "The exhibition included works from friends and family dating from the mid-1920s to the 1990s."

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:10, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "a prodigious wealth of talent - an artist equally conversant with techniques in oil, pencil, watercolour and sculpture." → "a prodigious wealth of talent—an artist equally conversant with techniques in oil, pencil, watercolour and sculpture."

• Done, per MOS:CONFORM. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:34, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "Several works by Dallas are held by public institutions." → "Several works by Dallas are held in public collections."

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:11, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "her oil portrait of provost Brown" → "her oil portrait of Provost Brown"

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:36, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "The two married in 1945 and had a son, also named Alastair." → "They married in 1945 and had a son, also named Alastair."

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:13, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "Dallas died in October 1996, at Dumfries and Galloway Royal Infirmary, at the age of 88." → "Dallas died in October 1996 at Dumfries and Galloway Royal Infirmary, aged 88."

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:14, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "A service was conducted at Greyfriars Church in Kirkcudbright, followed by a funeral in St Cuthbert's churchyard." → "A service was held at Greyfriars Church in Kirkcudbright, followed by burial in St Cuthbert's churchyard."

• Made the first change but kept "funeral", as I think that word implies a separate ceremony. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:20, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "Both were conducted by Reverend Arnold Simister," → "Both were conducted by the Reverend Arnold Simister,"

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:20, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

MSincccc (talk) 07:48, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Lead

• "in around 1958" → "around 1958"

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:21, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "Her works, like those of her husband Alastair Dallas, focused on oil and watercolour paintings" → "Her works, like those of her husband Alastair Dallas, focused on oil and watercolour painting"

• Reworded. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:47, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "eventually attended" → "attended"

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:22, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "studying under instructors such as Herbert Maryon" → "where she studied under instructors such as Herbert Maryon"

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:22, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "After graduating around 1929" → "After graduating c. 1929"

• I prever to avoid abbreviations like that in prose, unless is broken off somehow (e.g., in a parenthetical). --Usernameunique (talk) 19:23, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• "She took her husband's surname after her 1945 marriage, and at some point took Ann as her professional given name" → "She took her husband's surname after her 1945 marriage, and at some point adopted Ann as her professional given name"

• Done. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:24, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Bottom line

• Usernameunique That's all for the prose. A fine read. The spot check to follow. MSincccc (talk) 07:55, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Source-to-text spot check

• 1-Following her 1945 marriage to Alastair Dallas, Weatherall took her husband's surname. I could not find mention of this in the source.

• I think I used the wrong source there. I switched to the one that mentions the 1945 marriage. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:39, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• 5-All fine, except that I could not find mention of the Fall 1998 exhibition.

• It doesn't exactly say "Fall", but it says that Beginning on Monday [21 September] the Kirkcudbright Harbour Cottage Gallery is stating a major memorial exhibition celebrating the life and works of Kirkcudbright artist, Ann Dallas. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:41, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

• 8- Done
• 17- Done
• 25- Done
• 29- Done
• 32- Done
• 73- Done
• 75- Done

That is all for the spot check; otherwise, everything is verified and we are fine to proceed. MSincccc (talk) 10:59, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks very much, MSincccc. I've incorporated almost all of your suggestions. Responses above. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:57, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.