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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Aoeuidhtns in topic Place of birth

Political biog update

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I've just updated the political biography from a Number 10 press release . As it's a press release (and all the information therewithin is in the public domain), I figure that's not copyvio OwenBlacker 23:29, Aug 9, 2004 (UTC)

Source for the Plaid Cymru story...

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She talked about standing for PC at school on Crwydro, S4C, last night. I can't find an English version of the page, but there's a summary in Welsh on http://www.bbc.co.uk/cymru/gogleddddwyrain/bywyd_bro/pages/ann_clwyd_crwydro.shtml (Is the fact that she speaks Welsh worth noting in the article, incidentally?)

As for the Tower Colliery story, I remember it happening, but I had to rely on a lot of Googling for the date, and it's still later than I thought.

Telsa 15:05, 14 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

Photo?

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This page could do with a Photograph  Preceding unsigned comment added by Death4Star34 (talkcontribs) 18:16, 2 June 2006‎ (UTC)Reply

Just put one in The Gannet 23:53, 28 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

New free photo

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I've added a new free photo to replace the one deleted today. It was taken in Aberdare when she unveiled the bust to Keir Hardie. I'm having trouble embedding the photo within the infobox... it seems to be protected or something. --Darren Wyn Rees (talk) 18:47, 10 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

"She has traditionally been regarded as on the left wing of the party, and has been a vocal supporter of the Iraq War." - this makes no sense  Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.195.14 (talk) 14:41, 12 February 2008‎ (UTC)Reply

Name

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Why does the article start with the name "Ann Clwyd Roberts" I can't see a reference where she uses that name. Rachel Pearce (talk) 13:21, 4 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I believe that's because of MOS:FULLNAME. I've added a reference now, but it's also used in Rebel With a Cause.[1]. Aoeuidhtns (talk) 21:53, 1 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. Clwyd, Ann. "Rebel With a Cause". archive.org. p. 13. Retrieved 30 June 2025. By the time I started receiving by-lines in The Guardian I chose to become known as Ann Clwyd. I had been born Ann Clwyd Lewis and was now Ann Clwyd Roberts but the long name seemed cumbersone and had the appearance of a double-barrelled name, which was highly unfashionable in the '60s.

Place of birth

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Is there a reliable source for Ann Clwyd's place of birth? The article says both that she was born in Halkyn and that she was born in Pentre Halkyn, but doesn't give a usable source for either place.

Looking elsewhere, archive.org includes old copies of "Debrett's People of Today"[1] and "Who's Who",[2] but neither mention a place of birth. It also has a copy of the autobiography, which says on page 2 that she was "actually born in Denbighshire",[3] but gives no more details than that. There were obituaries in various newspapers, but different ones I've found said that she was born in Pentre Halkyn,[4] Halkyn,[5] Flintshire[6] and Denbigh.[7]

There seems to be agreement that she was born somewhere in North Wales, but can we be more specific than that? Aoeuidhtns (talk) 21:53, 1 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. "Debrett's people of today 2003". Internet Archive. Retrieved 30 June 2025.
  2. "Who's who 2010". archive.org. p. 454. Retrieved 30 June 2025.
  3. Clwyd, Ann. "Rebel With a Cause". archive.org. p. 13. Retrieved 30 June 2025.
  4. Evans, Arron (22 July 2023). "Former MP and journalist Ann Clwyd has died aged 86". The Leader. Retrieved 30 June 2025.
  5. Minchin, Rod (1 August 2023). "Scotsman Obituaries: Ann Clwyd, Long-serving Welsh MP and leading Labour Party figure". The Scotsman. PA. Retrieved 30 June 2025.
  6. "Ann Clwyd obituary". The Telegraph. 23 July 2023. Retrieved 30 June 2025.
  7. Langdon, Julia (23 July 2023). "Ann Clwyd obituary". The Guardian. Retrieved 30 June 2025.