Talk:Alice Weidel
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How is being called a "nazi slut" one of the controversies?
[edit]Please explain why this isn't on that guy's page and it is on hers. 213.233.85.221 (talk) 12:45, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Controversies (or incidents as in the article) as a general rule involve more than one person. You can add information about it to the Christian Ehring article yourself. Hope this helps. Gremlin of the wiki (talk) 06:01, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah I find this really weird. That to me seems like gross sexist language. It should be on the other persons page, not here.2.103.234.181 (talk) 01:56, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- She went to court and lost the case. And it was a pretty high-profile case. Ymblanter (talk) 11:58, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
Far-right politician?
[edit]This label makes no sense. She's said in countless interviews and media that her positions are more that of a libertarian, she often criticizes EU interventions on citizens' lives, the deterioration of the free trade and over-regulation. When asked about the Third Reich she said that for her they were like communists, that they had a total control of the state and exercised total repression, so she said she has nothing to do with that. 12qwas (talk) 20:17, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your opinion, but the sources we are using seem to think otherwise. Ymblanter (talk) 21:06, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- Your sources regarding "far-right" in the first sentence of the introduction:
- "guardian": heavily biased in favour of green and leftist parties
- "euractiv": europhilistic, the AfD opposes more integration into the European Union
- "france24": left-wing biased public broadcaster
- Therefore your sources are not objective. 62.226.93.126 (talk) 22:06, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- We don't claim that sources are objective, nor is that required. 331dot (talk) 22:13, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- So if I go find biased sources that say a politician I don’t like is “far-left” I can assert that as fact? No, Wikipedia must maintain a NPOV. What I can do is state that named commentators/journalists have described the politician as “far-left”. But you’re not doing that here. You’re laundering opinion pieces and presenting them as objective truth, which is pure hackery. ~2026-68017-0 (talk) 04:00, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- We don't claim that sources are objective, nor is that required. 331dot (talk) 22:13, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- yeah I know where your sources come from... ~2026-34518-76 (talk) 23:40, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
- left-leaning wikipedia tries to smear conservative, patriotic to right-leaning political forces??? What a shocker... 62.226.93.126 (talk) 20:27, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- No one is smearing anyone. If the provided sources are not being accurately summarized, please detail those errors, or offer your own sources that describe this person differently.
- What people describe themselves as is important, but not controlling.
- Wikipedia is only as good as those who help us. If you want Wikipedia to have a right slant, you need to be here, participating, collaborating with people regardless of their views to best summarize what independent sources say about a topic. If your views prevent you from collaborating with others, we can't do much about your concerns.
- Wikipedia does not claim to be without bias. Sources are presented to readers so they can evaluate and judge them for themselves when determining what they think about what they read. See WP:TRUTH. A reader can read an article and disagree with everything presented. Bias does not preclude the use of a source on Wikipedia, unless it is alleged that the source is so biased that they make things up out of whole cloth or lack basic standards of journalism. 331dot (talk) 22:11, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm in symphony with your statement however I would go as far to state conservative. ~2026-34518-76 (talk) 23:41, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
Weirdly partisan take on Hitler controversy?
[edit]The subsection on Weidel's claims that Hitler was a communist are directly contradicted by the Wikipedia page for Hitler's views. There is no need to cite authors who claim Hitler was a socialist or had socialist elements when his anti-communism is clearly spelt out in the corresponding Wikipedia page 193.190.253.145 (talk) 11:30, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- From what I recall we did once have an editor on here trying to claim Hitler was a socialist as being true, so it helps to avoid that in future to directly dispel such falsehoods clearly and explicitly. Helper201 (talk) 19:47, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- I agree, and people STILL keep trying to edit it that he was a socialist, despite himself dispelling later on as he got power, as well as the corresponding Wikipedia page you mentioned, that is now linked in this article. Jag1762010 (talk) 21:23, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
Hitler controvesy
[edit]Wouldn't it be better to delete the sources that seem to favor the idea that Hitler was truly a socialist? As someone said, this contradicts Wikipedia's classification of Hitler as an anti-communist 2804:14C:598D:4167:64F0:F194:4CDF:EFDD (talk) 21:45, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed, especially since at least one of the sources (Henry Ashby Turner's book) doesn't contain a page cite, and my brief skim of the book did not seem to really support the idea that Hitler or the Nazis were socialist, rather that there were perceptions of them as being harmful to big business interests. Of course in the absence of a page cite, it is hard to specifically rebut his particular inclusion (never mind the fact that the section as a whole shouldn't be included since Hitler was clearly not a communist/socialist/leftist). ~2025-33173-45 (talk) 19:11, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Rainer Zitelmann clearly disagrees with your last sentence. Hitler was a socialist, its in the title Nationalsocialism. ~2026-30750-1 (talk) 02:15, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- You have got to be kidding. Simply having "socialism" in the name does not designate the party is socialist in the sense you mean. Are you suggesting that "Democrats" in the US are exclusively interested in democracy, because of their name? That Labour in the UK exclusively represent people who work (labor), because of their name? Zedembee (talk) 09:22, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Rainer Zitelmann clearly disagrees with your last sentence. Hitler was a socialist, its in the title Nationalsocialism. ~2026-30750-1 (talk) 02:15, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- being anti-communist doesn't necessarily make you not a socialist. hitler was an avid marxist hater, but marxism is just a branch. left wing groups of different denominations fight all the time. the fact that Makhno fought the soviet union, doesn't make him a rightist, just a left wing individual of different persuasions.
- even if you don't agree with these takes, it is fair to point out that such ideas like hitler and nationali socialist ideology being socialist, aren't unheard of, and are even proposed by respectable scholars and academics. Jomini1291 (talk) 15:34, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- How exactly is that fair if himself denied being a socialist after he gained power, or that the first groups he attacked were left-wing ones? How is that fair if every source claiming that he was left-wing just "happen" to be libertarian and right-wing idealogues?
- As already mentioned, There is no need to cite authors who claim Hitler was a socialist or had socialist elements when his anti-communism is clearly spelt out in the corresponding Wikipedia page Jag1762010 (talk) 21:27, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- when exactly did hitler deny being a socialist? also, again left-wing infighting is common. And to call Götz Aly, or Peter Temin libertarian is incorrect. Calling Mises and F.A. Hayek ideologues is disparaging and uninformed.
- being anti-communist or anti-marxist doesn't bar someone from being a socialist. Jomini1291 (talk) 15:08, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- also I should point out that your own history seems to point at a fairly marxist bias. Jomini1291 (talk) 15:09, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- The sources attached to those statements show that he did not claim to be and actively opposed both socialism and communism. Here you point out you can be anti-communist and still be socialist, and then your edit claims that he actually was a communist. And then you assume my "history" has marxist bias without evidence. It is VERY clear that you just want to claim Hitler was a communist against a MASSIVE amount of the evidence to the contrary, simply because you oppose anything left-wing and want to associate Hitler with the left-wing that he actively opposed, to make the left look bad. Jag1762010 (talk) 22:14, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- {{Edit extended-protected}} Jag1762010 (talk) 22:16, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- the tagesschau claimed he delcared not being a socialist, meanwhile he in his own word in the same year clearly wrote he was a socialist. I don't think you can get more unbiased than his own words.
- NONE of my edits make the claim that adolf hitler was a communist, I have never claimed this. I pointed how PREVIOUS edits claimed hitler was not a socialist which is contested.
- you're being dishonest by making this strawman. communism =/= socialism =/= marxism. Jomini1291 (talk) 13:43, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- I would very much be curious if you pointed out which part of my edit claims hitler was a communist. As it is written the article is simply inaccurate and misleading. Jomini1291 (talk) 13:45, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- {{Edit extended-protected}} Jag1762010 (talk) 22:16, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- The sources attached to those statements show that he did not claim to be and actively opposed both socialism and communism. Here you point out you can be anti-communist and still be socialist, and then your edit claims that he actually was a communist. And then you assume my "history" has marxist bias without evidence. It is VERY clear that you just want to claim Hitler was a communist against a MASSIVE amount of the evidence to the contrary, simply because you oppose anything left-wing and want to associate Hitler with the left-wing that he actively opposed, to make the left look bad. Jag1762010 (talk) 22:14, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
Political Affiliation
[edit]unfortunately AfD especially Alice Weidel is not a far right organization and this is oppositional slander to purport the idea or tether the political party to the 1940s in the effect of psyops to encourage the firewall against AfD which I might add has progressed well from humble beginnings and is the number 2 largest in the bundestag. So... Correct it or don't but they aren't far right the are mostly conservative which is on the right as preferred to "Left Wing" and they are not extremists... She seems pretty progressive for a "Far Right" individual noting her long standing relationship. Sometimes I think only Hightops do these edits... ~2026-34518-76 (talk) 23:38, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
- German intelligence itself has labeled the AfD party far-right. "Germany's Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party has been designated as right-wing extremist by the country's federal office for the protection of the constitution." - source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy6zk9wkrdo
- Your opinion on this might differ, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of facts, not opinions. Zedembee (talk) 09:17, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
Edit request 12 September 2026
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- Lks good to me, I will do it provided no objections have been raised. Ymblanter (talk) 08:34, 12 September 2026 (UTC)
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