Talk:Alanis Morissette
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Date format?
[edit]Shouldn't the date format on this page and those related to Alanis be DMY, since she is a born Canadian? Ottawa uses the DMY format, so is there a specific reason for using MDY, aside from she has gained American citizenship? Is that like saying we should not use Canadian English, as well? livelikemusic (TALK!) 14:10, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- The article went by MDY when created in 2002 and so per WP:DATERETAIN should continue to be in MDY, Also Canada use DMY, MDY and YYYY-MM-DD so it's hard to justify using DMY here as much as I want too!. –Davey2010Talk 14:18, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- However, per MOS:DATERETAIN, it does state: unless there are reasons for changing it based on strong national ties to the topic or consensus on the article's talk page, so while I do understand the intent of maintaining the MDY format, surely, her natural-born national ties should be used, no? To me, in using MDY formats and Canadian English is a bit contradicting... livelikemusic (TALK!) 14:22, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- The Canada English template is the real problem here then, Given she it states "Canadian-American" imho the language should be American but that's just my opinion, Either way whilst the dates and language are contradictory the dates aren't the main problem here atleast I don't think they are anyway, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:08, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- However, per MOS:DATERETAIN, it does state: unless there are reasons for changing it based on strong national ties to the topic or consensus on the article's talk page, so while I do understand the intent of maintaining the MDY format, surely, her natural-born national ties should be used, no? To me, in using MDY formats and Canadian English is a bit contradicting... livelikemusic (TALK!) 14:22, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Statutory rape
[edit]This is American terminology, a crime under this name doesn't exist in Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.246.130.248 (talk) 03:09, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
"5 ½ Weeks Tour" listed at Redirects for discussion
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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect 5 ½ Weeks Tour and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 31 § 5 ½ Weeks Tour until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 2600:1700:9BF3:220:9DFE:C535:CFDA:2BAF (talk) 06:48, 31 December 2022 (UTC) o
Change Canadian and American singer
[edit]Change Canadian and American singer to Canadian-American singer. 76.64.181.63 (talk) 18:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Yes, as a performer she was professional 1986–present.
[edit]Very true, but also very irrelevant. Her Debut was not not until 1991. Why does Wikipedia list "Years active" way before their music careers actually begin? cn7614929 22:33 PST, 6 August 2025 (UTC) 71.38.218.67 (talk) 05:35, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
Entrepreneur
[edit]Hi, while @Cruzado insists the content they've recently added (regarding Morissette's so-called entrepreneurship) is lead-worthy (despite opposition from me and @Fulfiller, see this), including "entrepreneur" in the lead sentence definitely violates MOS:ROLEBIO (because Morissette isn't commonly called such by reliable sources). Thedarkknightli (talk) 03:42, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Precisely. Alanis Morissette has been famous for nearly 30 years. We should evaluate articles in highly reliable sources that take a look back at her whole career. Preferably articles published in the last five to ten years. Only if such articles routinely and prominently call her an entrepeneur should that word appear in lead sentence. The onus is on any editor who wants to add this content to make that case based on the full range of sources. Cullen328 (talk) 05:32, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Cullen328 (talk) 03:53, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Cullen328, thanks for your timely reply! Cruzado is currently being discussed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Edit warring on Alanis Morissette.
- Regards, Thedarkknightli (talk) 05:51, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't even see any entrepreneurship mentioned in the article at all, whether sourced or unsourced. LizardJr8 (talk) 14:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Instruments
[edit]I believe that additional instrumentation should be mentioned as she has been seen on video and in live performances playing instruments like guitar and harmonica. GabesLovesPortland (talk) 05:52, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- But the infobox should only list commonly used instruments, like the note you pointlessly deleted said -FMSky (talk) 09:39, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
Removed line
[edit]I removed this line from the article:
She was criticized for collaborating with producer and supposed image-maker Ballard, and her previous disco-pop albums also proved a hindrance for her respectability
It was sourced to a CNN Interview and this 1995 review in Spin (or at least to a forum post of the review).
As near as I can tell the CNN interview doesn't mention anything close to this. The Spin review does say this:
How ironic that Jagged Little Pill producer/collaborator Glen Ballard, who rescued her from MIDI hell, has also helped trap Paula Abdul and Michael Jackson there.
Is that really critisizing her for working with Ballard? It reads to me like it's crediting him positively for his work with Morissette, and criticizing his past work with other artists. So maybe it belongs in the article on him, but it's not a criticism of Morissette for her collaboration with him. So I removed it, but maybe I'm misinterpreting things here. Here2rewrite (talk) 19:11, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
Post-grunge
[edit]It says in the link in the infobox "post-grunge generation". But does that make her music post-grunge? I don't think so. Berserkur (talk) 13:01, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
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