Talk:Acupuncture

Similarly named album

As explained in WP:DABLINK, any article with an ambiguous title should contain helpful links to alternative Wikipedia articles or disambiguation pages, placed at the top of the article. Although "Acupuncture" has a clear primary topic, the title is still ambiguous. What is the best way to guide a reader seeking Acupuncture (album) to that article? I added the customary hatnote but was reverted. In case it helps, there was recent discussion on a similar topic at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation#Quantum supremacy. Certes (talk) 21:19, 9 August 2026 (UTC)

Support adding link. Certes is correct. Some readers will indeed be looking for Acupuncture (album) and should be served up a link to it. --Guy Macon (talk) 22:13, 9 August 2026 (UTC)

Yes, I support that, too. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:27, 9 August 2026 (UTC)

Okay: ojection withdrawn. (An ancillary question might be whether this band and its albums are notable enough for Wikipedia, which from the sourcing used seems questionable anyway). Bon courage (talk) 06:30, 10 August 2026 (UTC)

Wow. The crawly things you find when you turn over a rock...

It looks like we should not only AfD Acupuncture (album), but also Doldrums (band) and all the songs listed, and then start crawling through the list of pages and redirects created by indeffed user Soul Crusher (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (many of which have already been deleted).

It's bedtime here "where the TMZ intersects with the Orange Curtain" so I will look into this further tomorrow or the next day. --Guy Macon (talk) 06:56, 10 August 2026 (UTC)

The band look just about notable enough to me. The albums don't, though. Black Kite (talk) 08:27, 10 August 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, everyone. Let's leave the hatnote off for now, but reinstate it later if the album survives AfD or doesn't go there reasonably soon. Certes (talk) 08:55, 10 August 2026 (UTC)

Some input provided by Larry Sanger

https://larrysanger.org/wikicritic/dossier-acupuncture.html. For the interested, there could be something good in there. Some is AI, but there are human comments too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:56, 11 August 2026 (UTC)

Starting reading the first comment as saw it was by an acupuncturist. Quelle surprise. Stopped reading then. What does one expect from this kind of exercise? Bon courage (talk) 16:46, 11 August 2026 (UTC)

It's been suggested to me that the human comments could be AI too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:59, 11 August 2026 (UTC)

WikiCritic is bogus, see User talk:Jimbo Wales#Larry Sanger made a new thing. tgeorgescu (talk) 20:35, 11 August 2026 (UTC)

Insurance coverage contradicts "lack of efficacy" claims

Most if not all major US health insurance companies cover acupuncture for certain issues. Considering they are known to systematically deny totally legitimate claims, why would they ever pay for something that doesn't work. ~2026-49157-40 (talk) 12:18, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

WP:NOTFORUM. Bon courage (talk) 12:25, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

"In the US, acupuncture is increasingly (as of 2014) used at academic medical centers,[80] and is usually offered through CAM centers or anesthesia and pain management services. Examples include those at Harvard University, Stanford University, Johns Hopkins University, and UCLA.[163] CDC clinical practice guidelines from 2022 list acupuncture among the types of complementary and alternative medicines physicians should consider in preference to opioid prescription for certain kinds of pain.[164]"

That paragraph in the article clearly contradicts the earlier claims of inefficacy and quackery. ~2026-49157-40 (talk) 18:33, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

Huh? The USA is embracing quackery. But in any event WP:RS is needed. Bon courage (talk) 19:12, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

* Insurance Is Not Evidence: Debunking the idea that "it must be good if insurance companies pay for it"

* Why do insurance companies pay for ineffective treatments?

* Quacking All the Way to the Bank: Naturopaths are winning insurance coverage for medical nonsense.

* Are Homeopathic Doctors Covered by Insurance?

* "Some Medicare Advantage plans offer coverage for alternative therapies, including homeopathic treatments. Beneficiaries interested in homeopathy should explore Medicare Advantage plans to determine if they include such benefits."

--Guy Macon (talk) 21:53, 12 September 2026 (UTC)