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Latest comment: 7 months ago by Guy Harris in topic This article is hard to read on mobile.

Use of the definite article

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Please, it's always 'the' ARPANET. See e.g. the DARPA report "A History of the ARPANET: The First Decade", which always uses the definite article; it never uses the bare term "ARPANET" as a subject, object, etc. I'm not sure how the use of bare "ARPANET" got started (perhaps by someone who wasn't a native English speaker), but it's wrong. Noel (talk)

interesting. Remembering my starstruck High school andcollege days (early to mid 1970s)when friends were introducing me to the magic of networks via modem, at school, I don't ever remember "the ARPANET" or "the USEnet." I remember them as without "the", as in, how do I connect to [Some specific magical location], The answer would be the name without "the". Like, "here's info on how to connect to USENET". i'd have to do digging to find common usage during that era. Which I'm just not up to at this point. It's also interesting because we don't omit "the" with "Internet". Also note that official literature might well vary significantly from common usage and less formal documents. Elf | Talk 16:26, 14 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yes, some people may have referred to it as just "ARPANET", and that usage may have become somewhat common, but it wasn't official.
As for Usenet or CSNET or BITNET or UUCPNET, there wasn't a consistent pattern for all such networks; those, as I remember, didn't include the definite article. Guy Harris (talk) 03:09, 13 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

"By 1973, e-mail constituted 75% of the ARPANET traffic" as a dubious claim

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Hey all, Even though it is undoubted and actually referenced that e-mail has grown very quickly in ARPANET traffic since its inception, this actual figure seems unreferenced and even considered as dubious in a recent discussion of the History of computing "SIGCIS" mailing list. References 9 and 84 do not actually state that figure at all and should refer to the previous sentence. I am thus witching the references to the previous sentence,removing the dubious claim, replacing it with a similar, but unquantified, phrasing, adding a valid reference to it. Feel free to discuss it here. Alexandre Hocquet (talk) 23:57, 29 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Quite right. I handled a node and I wouldn't be surprised at the stat. But, I've never seen any actual published stats. O3000 (talk) 00:03, 30 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Done. Here is a link to the discussion on the SIGCIS mailing list as a ref Alexandre Hocquet (talk) 00:08, 30 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

It seems there is a source for 75%, which has been referenced in Hafner (1996) and reused elsewhere:

Looks like this can be restored in the article. Whizz40 (talk) 20:38, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Two new sources for ARPANET history

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For editors looking to improve or update this article and seeking reliable sources for ARPANET history, I've recently learned of two historical documents from or about DARPA that have been made available online:

I don't currently have time myself to see if these sources can help improve this article, but I thought I would leave them here in case other editors do have the time. - Dyork (talk) 12:09, 25 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Cachiman

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Who is Cachiman? Punkieduckie (talk) 07:16, 1 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Cachiman appears, from a Google search, to be a plant. It's not the name of any person mentioned in ARPANET, so this isn't relevant to the article. Guy Harris (talk) 20:57, 27 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

This article is hard to read on mobile.

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Is there a way to make the "Internet History Timeline" section collapsable? It makes it difficult to read on my device. Chuqqal (talk) 04:24, 9 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Or, better yet, turn it into a Wikipedia page, Timeline of the history of the Internet, and link to that in the "See also" section, which has been done. The template was problematic, especially on mobilemachines with really small screens, but not only on those machines, and not just on this page, so they got rid of it in favor of using a regular page. Guy Harris (talk) 09:25, 2 January 2026 (UTC)Reply