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Latest comment: 20 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Viet-Muong is clearly a branch of Vietic. It's thought that the two languages split during the Chinese Emperial era. I'm replacing the Ethnologue classification with one that recognizes this, and moving the article from Viet-Muong to Vietic. Ethnologue remains as an external link. kwami 10:19, 24 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

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Latest comment: 6 years ago5 comments3 people in discussion

"vọoc", "khái", "cúi"? What are these animals? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.255.223.72 (talk) 04:51, 28 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

"voọc": likely originally meant all species of monkeys, now restricted to some species of monkeys; "khái" Nghệ An dialectal word for "tiger"; "cúi" archaic, now almost obsolete word for pig, still used in North Central (Bắc Trung Bộ).Erminwin (talk) 02:41, 8 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Erminwin: Well, as far as I know, "cúi" is completely obsolete actually; I'm not aware of any dialect that still uses cúi as the normal word for "pig", although it does live on in compounds such as "cá cúi".PhanAnh123 (talk) 03:16, 8 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

"khái" is even mentioned in the Vietnamese Wikipedia page for "tiger" while voọc is abundantly attested.PhanAnh123 (talk) 03:16, 8 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

@PhanAnh123: "voọc is abundantly attested". Indeed, I remember seeing the noun voọc for the 1st time on a sign in Thảo Cầm Viên Sài Gòn.Erminwin (talk) 03:34, 8 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Classification contradiction

Latest comment: 6 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The Languages section begins The discovery that Vietnamese was a Mon–Khmer language, and that its tones were a regular reflection of non-tonal features in the rest of the family, is considered a milestone in the development of historical linguistics. This doesn't reconcile with the move away from academic support for a Mon-Khmer family, which is missing from the language family hierarchies at Khmer language and Vietnamese language, and isn't mentioned among any of the schemes discussed in the Classification section. So the two sections should be refactored, with Mon-Khmer being mentioned as one hypothesis but with it also indicated that it's now generally considered outmoded. Largoplazo (talk) 23:33, 23 January 2026 (UTC)Reply