Talk:Ra'am

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Can someone explain why that is?

- This is an ambiguous statement. Firstly, in the elections for the 2006 Knesset they won 4 seats, not two as is stated here or three as is stated in the article. As for why they didn't win 18% of the vote there are three reasons: 1. There are three major Arab parties: Islamist-nationalist Ra'am (United Arab List), nationalist Balad and Communist Hadash. Balad and Hadash each won 3 seats in the 2006 elections. In 2006 there were two smaller Arab parties (notably Da'am) which ran and did not even come close to passing the 2% threshhold needed to get any seats in the Knesset. 2. Some Arabs also vote for Zionist parties, especially Labour and Meretz and for the Haredi party Shas. 3. Some Arab factions in Israel such as the extreme Northern Faction of Islamist Movement boycott the elections and voter turnout in the Arab sector can sometimes be low. Hope that answers your question.

Also.... a significant part of the Arab population is under the voting age of 18.

"Equal rights for Arab citizens of Israel"

Can someone explain why a main part of their platform includes "equal rights for Arab citizens of Israel?" Do they not already have equal rights?

98.143.101.255 (talk) 02:09, 25 January 2013 (UTC) not when it comes to housing and civil rights, legally yes but discrimination is massive — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.155.189.88 (talk) 22:47, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Factions

Thanks IP, for the correct removal. Original research is not permitted on Wikipedia, no matter how many refs are attached. Also, per WP:HOAX. Yes, this is an WP:ARBPIA action. El_C 16:33, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I conflated this article with another, reverting and protecting. El_C 16:40, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

On 3rd thought, I self-reverted. I'm just not confident enough at this time. So, I'll let another editor attend to this until I have time to further investigate. Sorry for the extra noise. El_C 16:47, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Social Conservatism

Is this the official policy of this party? If not it shouldn't be classified such.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:1c94:5000::9cd7 (talk) 02:39, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

See the sources Shadow4dark (talk) 01:08, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Islamism

Now that the party added a Zionist Jew to the second spot on it's list, and that the disconnection from the Shura Council has been finalised, it's a bit ridiculous to ignore the changes it has undergone in recent years and to retain it's description as "Islamist". All the sources used to back this up are over a decade old and this is not an accurate description of the party's views anymore. Gibzit (talk) 07:05, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

User:Helper201, User:FCBWanderer, User:Shadow4dark, a recent discussion you may be interested in. David O. Johnson (talk) 22:33, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

That is incorrect. We have sources in the ideology section from 2021 and 2022 calling the party Islamist. Plus we don't have any sources explicitly saying they have dropped Islamism. To imply this via them having a certain candidate is WP:SYNTH. Helper201 (talk) 23:38, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

There's this Times of Israel source saying it's "historically Islamist":. David O. Johnson (talk) 04:50, 1 October 2026 (UTC)

Do you have sources that they have dropped Islamism? Shadow4dark (talk) 04:00, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

The Israeli wiki article lists 3 sources from 2021 that support the Islamist ideology. We could use them instead of the current. FCBWanderer (talk) 05:26, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

@Gibzit I understand where you are coming from, the party definitely has made great changes in an effort to become more mainstream, including cutting ties with the Shura council and opening the party to Jewish membership. It is very possible that the party is no longer Islamist at this point, but what is placed on the article must be based on information from sources, and there is not enough reliable sources to back up this claim as of right now.

I believe the best course of action now is to add a footnote to the Islamism line, adding that some sources have began to consider the party as no longer Islamist (ex:"traditionalist", "historically Islamist", "Islamist party... into Jewish-Arab party"), but that this is not (yet?) a clear consensus.

If more and more reliable sources in the future say explicitly that the party is no longer Islamist, then we'll have another discussion about maybe moving this description under a historical section in the infobox or removing it entirely.

@FCBWanderer, @Helper201, @Shadow4dark: Feel free to continue discussion TeddyRoosevelt1912 (talk) 02:43, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Requested move 13 September 2026

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. Consensus is that it's WP:COMMONNAME - policy prioritizes that over absolute translation perfection. In solidarity, Grilledcheeseisgreat ^✉ 17:01, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

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United Arab List → Ra'am – Better fulfills the WP:Commonname requirement TeddyRoosevelt1912 (talk) 22:09, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

United Arab List is the English version of the official name, but Ra'am is the name most commonly used in English-language media. A quick google search gives the first name ~70k results, while the second name gets ~1.2M results. When searching more specifically for news sources in the past three years, the same pattern holds: 4,200 for UAL and 48k for Ra'am. Based on these results, Ra'am is clearly the more commonly-used name and better fulfills the WP:Commonname requirement.

For discussion if you would like: @David O. Johnson, @Totalstgamer, @Braganza, @Slomo666, @Shadow4dark, @FCBWanderer

TeddyRoosevelt1912 (talk) 22:09, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

How is Ra'am referred to in Arabic? For Hadash & Ta'al, we also use their Hebrew abbreviations rather than the Arabic ones (like Aljabha) but I find it odd. Personally, i think the English translation is more accurate to represent it. Braganza (talk) 07:17, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

@Braganza It may well be that Arabic refers to the party as "United Arab List" (which I think it does glancing at the arwiki page), but the main focus of this discussion is looking at how this party is referred to in English sources, and by and large it is most commonly referred to as "Ra'am", hence the move request.

I would also point out that the name "United Arab List" would still remain on the article lede as it is still one of the names used to talk about the party, but just not the most common one. So readers looking for the party with that name would still be able to find this article.TeddyRoosevelt1912 (talk) 18:57, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

I agree with the move request; both The Jerusalem Post and The Times of Israel refer to the party as Ra'am. David O. Johnson (talk) 19:07, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

At a quick search for coverage of the 2022 election, CNN used Ra’am, while the BBC used Raam. CMD (talk) 22:56, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.