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Latest comment: 3 days ago by Willyoustopthat in topic References for BDS criticisms

Nominated for Best documentary feature film Oscar today

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https://www.npr.org/2025/01/23/nx-s1-5251597/2025-oscar-nominations-academy-awards 130.91.184.28 (talk) 20:17, 23 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Oops, that's been added 130.91.184.28 (talk) 20:18, 23 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
Won the Oscar at this week's Prestigious Academy Awards inn Los Angele. Screenwriter Queen Elizabeth (talk) 01:53, 5 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Won the Oscar  Preceding unsigned comment added by Screenwriter Queen Elizabeth (talkcontribs) 01:51, 5 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 February 2025

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BAFTA awards: pending to nominated Gijsz (talk) 20:21, 16 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Already done, but updated info to say that it is nominated but not won. Replicative Cloverleaf (talk) 18:18, 17 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Misspelling of Basel's name

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In production, Basel's name is misspelled here:

The military entered Basal’s home twice and confiscated computers and cameras. So we were always very, very stressed. It was complicated logistically and quite stressful, but in the end we managed.

This should be corrected.

73.142.13.139 (talk) 02:15, 23 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

the misspelling is present in the Variety article that is quoted here. i added [sic] to the quote. Rainsage (talk) 00:42, 24 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Edit request 2 March 2025

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Description of suggested change: Linking to https://www.antipodefilms.com/, the film's producer, would help readers interested in seeing the film.

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Colin Rowat (talk) 07:05, 2 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi Colin Rowat, I added the link to Antipode films in the infobox.  Done Lova Falk (talk) 12:39, 4 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! Colin Rowat (talk) 05:25, 2 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Edit request 3 March 2025

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Description of suggested change: The West Bank should be described as the "occupied West Bank." Israel has occupied the West Bank since 1967.

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a region in the West Bank, since he was a child
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a region in the occupied West Bank, since he was a child

2600:4040:20AC:2900:6170:FF00:C9D8:C160 (talk) 05:57, 3 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Both correct and relevant.  Done Lova Falk (talk) 11:48, 4 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Edit request 4 March 2025

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Add link to State of Palestine in the word Palestine in lead

Please add a link to State of Palestine in the word Palestine in lead

Countries: PalestineNorway
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Palestine
Norway
197.214.90.99 (talk) 21:47, 4 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Done without the flags though, we don't usually have flags in the text of an article. Lova Falk (talk) 06:53, 5 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
There is no such thing as "palestine" so I don't know who Norway was working with. ~2026-15947-6 (talk) 18:06, 8 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Is there Any Criticism associated with this Movie/Topic?

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mostly just asking, because it sounds sus to say a Documentary about Israeli/Palestinians has no detractors or Criticisms associated with it. 2600:1008:B154:816C:F9B8:D49:F987:80C9 (talk) 04:46, 5 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Your google search for this is a good as would be mine! If you find good sources for this, please tell. Lova Falk (talk) 06:57, 5 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
There is noteworthy criticism - not from film critics, but from political figures. Several Israeli government officials have condemned the film, requesting that it be prevented from screening abroad, on the allegation that it is anti-Israel propaganda. Meanwhile, PACBI has called for the BDS movement to boycott the film as “normalization” propaganda, prompting a rebuttal from Yuval Abraham and Basel Adra’s employers at ‘’+972 Magazine’’, citing multiple Palestinian community leaders and activists in the Masafer Yatta region documented in the film repudiating PACBI’s condemnation. All of this seems noteworthy! 96.248.86.161 (talk) 22:03, 8 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
It was not met with a "quiet silence". I have never seen such tepid handwringing before. LamontCranston (talk) 03:29, 10 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, can that sentence be removed? It's unclear what the implication is supposed to be. In the cited article it sounds like it was a stunned, sympathetic silence, not criticism. It doesn't add anything to the "criticism" section. Mgolden (talk) 04:31, 10 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
I have removed this sentence, see edit request below. Lova Falk (talk) 06:27, 11 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
96.248.86.161 Please find good sources, then I'll see what I can do! Lova Falk (talk) 06:29, 11 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Edit request 10 March 2025

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Description of suggested change: The 'Criticism' section claims "The filmmakers' Oscars acceptance speeches were met with a quiet audience." This is demonstrably untrue based on videos freely available online. It is also not what the cited source says. The author of the source states: "The room in which I was watching fell silent as the No Other Land team accepted the award." This is referring to the room where the author watched the Oscars not the Dolby Theater where the Oscars were held. This sentence should be removed. Diff:

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68.194.51.58 (talk) 04:58, 10 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

It is true that the source does not say that the audience in the Dolby Theater was silent. To be totally sure, I also watched the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QplPq-_xTaU. The audience was not very loud but they were not quiet. There were rounds of applause. So I have removed the sentence.
 Done Lova Falk (talk) 15:37, 10 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Agreed 98.113.68.170 (talk) 20:50, 12 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hamdan Ballal

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Hamdan Ballal arrested for being lynched. Jga078 (talk) 19:33, 24 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Bumping, this should be added. Couple sources at this point. AP news for one, Haaretz as well, if AP news is 'too biased' for some of y'all. Elirockenbeck1 (talk) 20:02, 24 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Two quick c/e requests, please

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1) Just below the two long blockquotes in the 'Controversies' section we get >>The Berlinale also featured other numerous pro-Palestine protests<<. One adjective of 'other numerous' could profitably be removed -- take your pick, or recast.

2) All the way down at the section 'Settler attacks on directors' co-director Basel Adra's last name is misspelled in the sentence >>In February 2025, Arda was beaten by Israeli settlers . . . <<

Tiny details, I know, but I'd appreciate any help with either issue as you deem fit. Thanks for your attention. Iandiareii (talk) 19:18, 25 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 March 2025

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In the "Settler attacks on directors" section, change Arda to Adra. Boybluekalamazoo (talk) 12:47, 27 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Done LizardJr8 (talk) 22:24, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Edit request 14 May 2025

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Description of suggested change: Melanie Phillips' statements regarding Masafer Yatta and Basel Adra contain factual inaccuracies and misrepresentatio

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Melanie Phillips said Masafer Yatta was "never under Palestinian Arab control" and claimed Adra had committed arson in Masafer Yatta in 2021 while blaming Jews for the act.[108]

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Chewing tinfoil (talk) 20:35, 14 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Regarding the 2021 arson incident, Phillips claims that Basel Adra committed arson in Masafer Yatta and blamed Jews for the act. This assertion is misleading. In 2021, Israeli media outlets HaKol HaYehudi and Channel 12 accused Adra of setting fire to a building in the Hebron Hills and attempting to frame Jewish settlers and Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) soldiers for the incident. However, subsequent investigations revealed that the fire was caused by a tear gas canister fired by the IDF, and Adra was seen trying to extinguish the flames. The news outlets later acknowledged the lack of evidence supporting their initial claims and did not pursue further investigation.

Hi Chewing tinfoil, I am looking into this. Could you please provide specific sources that confirm your text? Friendly, Lova Falk (talk) 07:50, 27 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
I'd be cautious to use an opinion piece from the Jewish News Syndicate as a reliable source for a contentious claim. Regarding the 2021 fire incident, I think this Jerusalem Post source is the most reliable, which presents the accusation and Adra's response. It would take some editing gymnastics to keep Phillips' claim while balancing it with what is actually known about the incident. Nnev66 (talk) 20:27, 27 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you Nnev66! I will leave this edit request to someone who is more familiar with this subject. Lova Falk (talk) 07:29, 28 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
I made an edit to the article that included Adra's denial of starting the fire from the Jerusalem post. Does this address the concern Chewing tinfoil? Nnev66 (talk) 13:27, 28 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Spelling of Odeh Hathalin

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How should we spell the name of the activist who contributed to the movie and was recently killed by an Israeli settler? The CNN source cited spells his name "Odeh Hathalin", but I've seen other sources use "Awdah Hathaleen" (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/29/palestinian-awdah-hathaleen-oscar-winning-no-other-land-killed-in-west-bank) (https://www.thecut.com/article/awdah-hathaleen-was-reportedly-killed-by-an-israeli-settler.html).

This article writes "Odeh Hadalin (a.k.a. Awdah Hathaleen)" (https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/no-other-land-contributor-odeh-hadalin-killed-west-bank-1235395741/). Truthnope (talk) 17:11, 29 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 September 2025

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Just a small typo. In the Synopsis, change:

"The films ends by showing Adra's cousin ..."

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"The film ends by showing Adra's cousin ..." Cajanegra1 (talk) 13:18, 14 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Done Day Creature (talk) 15:42, 14 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

References for BDS criticisms

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The only references for the BDS criticism of the film are currently from Israeli media, I know Wikipedia prefers secondary sources, but surely when discussing a media statement it's fine to cite the actual statement. Theres even a quote from BDS included in the article and the citation for it is another source quoting BDS - as a reader I clicked on the reference expecting to be taken to where the quote was from, I expect others may do the same. Can we just cite the original source? Willyoustopthat (talk) 13:50, 9 August 2026 (UTC)Reply