Talk:Avraham Sinai

Non-notable

This person is non-notable. Google returns 33 unique results, many of which link to Wikipedia or mirrors of Wikipedia. . BhaiSaab ^talk 05:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Even if google were the way to decided whether a person is notable or not, he gets some hits not from wikipedia in the first ten. He's probably a minor celebrity in Israel anyway, and he's an author. Speedy delete? Come on. Arrow740 07:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Why does the name of his book only return two results? Perhaps we could evaluate this better if we had Hebrew or Arabic equivalents, but he seems to be on neither of the Wikipedias in those languages. BhaiSaab ^talk 07:54, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Did you check both? Most people don't both contributing in their mother tongue if it's not english, it seems to me. So I don't know if that's a good measure either. This guy is something of a public figure, it seems. He definitely meets wikipedia standards for having an article if someone wants him to. Arrow740 09:45, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

If he was notable he would be on the Hebrew Wikipedia - he's not. BhaiSaab ^talk 00:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. I see no evidence that Hebrew wikipedia has many contributors. In any case the material presented about him makes it clear that, at least to some degree, he is notable. Arrow740 07:02, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Hebrew Wikipedia is much smaller. Sinai is a notable person, I have heard about him before. He has been the subject of articles in Israeli papers. I do not understand BhaiSaab's deletion fervor. BhaiSaab, stop this. --Daniel575 | (talk) 09:31, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

This is a bit late, but "the absence of a Wikipedia article in another language" is not a valid argument for notability. 2002 Gujarat violence does not have an equivalent in either Hebrew, Gujarati, or Arab. Does that mean that the even is non-notable? Does it mean the even is more notable to English-speakers but not to Hebrews, Gujarati, and Arabs? − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 21:39, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Adding to this, Islam in the United States does not even have an Arabic equivalent. Should we delete it based on this? − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 21:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Notability

the edit said he is notable as per various sources, but the article lists a single source and doesnt say why he is considered notable to have an article on its own. Lihaas (talk) 16:21, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

3 sources and that qualifies for "multiple". I can find more if you want. --Matt57 ^{(talk•contribs)} 21:55, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely do so to make it better. if an article can be improved then its certainly better grounds for notability. (obviously more global sources, currently it only has jpress and ynet) (ive put a tag for a call to cites for other editors to add some stuff

Perhaps a bio section on his history, then a hezbollah section and subsection on "flight for hezbollah" or some such thing. surely Hezbollah have a reaction to this.Lihaas (talk) 23:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

You have the wrong ideas about notability. Notability doesnt mean an article has to be big. The article can be expanded however, notability says "multiple reliable sources" (read that template you linked in). The ones here are multiple reliable sources and so its notable. Removed notability tag and might expand it at some time. Dont put in the notability tag again without explaining here what notability means and why this is not notable. --Matt57 ^{(talk•contribs)} 02:30, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

granted, what you said is right, but with merely said enough it can easily be up for a "merge" into another section.

The notable tag was a call to cites, and added discussion, where the alternative would be two editors on different sides (wouldnt get a consensus there.). I agree the right nomination for deletion tag ought not to be here, but the notability tag is for said reason. When the requisite expansion and agreement comes then it can be removed. (hecne the point of the tag).Lihaas (talk) 07:32, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

No it cant be merged. Things which are notable, can have their own article, thats what the whole notability issue is about. Cites have been added, they are enough. What is OK is the expansion tag.

Like I said you have the wrong idea about notability. The notability issue is ALWAYS to talk about whether stuff should be deleted or not. Copying from the tag: "This article may not meet the general notability guideline. Please help to establish notability by adding reliable, secondary sources about the topic. If notability cannot be established, the article is likely to be merged, redirected, or deleted.". And thats how it goes.

Do you understand now what notability means? It means whether something is "important" enough to get their own article. How is that importance established? By seeing there were multiple reliable sources significantly covering the subject. --Matt57 ^{(talk•contribs)} 23:17, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

rv of his running away from Lebanon

How can this be misleading while he said it? Doesn't the article should be talk about him in general, not just pointing one POV. {Sinai explained his intentions, based on his feeling of being unsecured locally because of the civil unrest, stating "so it was only natural that we would collaborate with Israel against them Hezbollah."} AdvertAdam ^talk 07:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)