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Deceased Wikipedian's talk page still being archived

Need some help at User talk:Gobonobo. He passed away (RIP), but his talk page is still being archived, including peoples' condolences. Could someone change it so his talk page no longer automatically archives? NP (talk) 01:48, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

The page is missing the "do not archive template" which exists on User talk:Struway2 - Special:Diff/1318229000. That's why the talk page is archiving condolences. I also have a question for the help desk - e.g. from the talk page I've linked, {{User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil|2076514728}}, what does the 2076514728 represent? Does it convert to 17:38, 20 October 2035 (UTC) which is displayed in the hidden comment? Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 08:23, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

That would be a Unix timestamp, i. e. the number of seconds passed since 1 January 1970. And yes, it matches that date and time. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 09:27, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

I now get what that number means thanks. I added the template I found on User:Iggy the Swan/sandbox to see how this works. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:02, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

I think one could just comment out the MiszaBot config template to stop the archiving? -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 09:27, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

The page may well still need to be archived, if notifications of deletion discussions or similar are posted there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:22, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Conversely, User talk:Ronhjones has a lot of discussions under the RIP section while having the DNAU in the right place. Not sure if that template affects just one section or every section currently visible. Might well be the latter as the page history shows before May 2020 that the bot archived discussions but not after. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:13, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Do not archive until only affects a single section. You can use it to "pin" a thread at the top of the page, for example. But the page you mentioned doesn't have any template that would enable archiving in the first place – presumably that was removed at some point (it does have an archive indexing bot template). -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 18:19, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

In the event of my death

Hi. I've been fighting cancer for most of the year, and have been very ill, I have been quite near to death sadly. If all goes well, I should survive, but its not unreasonable to say I could pass away even relatively quickly from a sudden infection for example, and may not have time to notify people of my passing. As I'd like my user page and talkpage to be protected in the event of my death, what should I do? Edlectro28 (talk) 15:12, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to hear that, there is some guidance at Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/Guidelines#Planning ahead, do come back if you have more questions. TSventon (talk) 15:21, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28 One suggestion might be to set up a kind of "dead man's switch" template on your userpage. You could create a template which says something like "If I haven't edited for [a week/a month/etc] I may be deceased, please replace the content of my userpage with [another template]".

For what it's worth, I sincerely pray you're able to overcome your disease. Athanelar (talk) 15:50, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

I had wondered about this. Will do. Thanks for your prayers Edlectro28 (talk) 16:59, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28: Hi, I had a rare form of Hodgkin's lymphoma a number of years ago and am still here thanks to some intensive chemo. I hope all goes well for you. Best, MinorProphet (talk) 15:46, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much, and congrats to you! I'm also on some high intensity form of chemo, it's all horrible but the side effects aren't as bad now I'm having it post operation. Wishing good health to you buddy. Edlectro28 (talk) 16:42, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28: Many thanks, and to you too you. I suggest (perhaps controversially) that is possible to make friends with the dark destroyer: do you know Death Be Not Proud by John Donne? Consider also "All will be well, and all manner of thing shall be well" by Julian of Norwich, woven into T.S. Eliot's "Little Gidding" from Four Quartets. Very best wishes, MinorProphet (talk) 14:57, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Is there a limit on the number of albums I can include on a discography?

I am working on a Wikipedia page for Stephanie Spruill, a background singer, vocal contractor and artist development specialist who has worked with Michael Jackson, The Jacksons, Donna Summer, Tina Turner and more. Most recently she was the vocal coach for the movie MICHAEL. Upon researching I found she has participated on over 100 albums. Is there a limit or cut off on the number of albums she has worked on that I could safely include in her discography section without it looking like a directory? Thank you. Linwoods96 (talk) 16:47, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Discographies are for material from bands and/or solo artists, we wouldn't include a performance as a background singer in a discography. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:03, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. ~2026-49960-73 (talk) 17:24, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

@Linwoods96 Your question was very reasonable, as your others have also been. And most of your questions end up highlighting the same problem: a backup singer rarely gets any in-depth coverage of their career from reliable sources, and parroting the reliable in-depth coverage that already existed is pretty much the only thing Wikipedia will do. (We do often add extra information from sources that are "reliable but not in-depth", but only after multiple in-depth analyses of the person's career have been set down as the main material of the article.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:28, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for your response as I prepare to submit an article on vocal coach, arranger, singer, songwriter, arranger and artist development specialist Stephanie Spruill. I researched a comparison artist, Merry Clayton. She is another singer who was also a background singer and worked with many artists in support of their music. I found her work to closely align with Stephanie Spruill. They have often worked as background singers on the same projects. Thank you again. Linwoods96 (talk) 18:37, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Why I got this error?

Here the error

Even time I click in publish changes, will show this annoying error. (Click to print)

This is a bug? VitorFriboquen :] (Talk) 01:57, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

@Vitorperrut555: Your edit here worked. Did you try logging out and back in as suggested? PrimeHunter (talk) 03:54, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm getting that a lot today too. Using the "publish" button a second time usually resolves it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 13:05, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing Yes, I know. I think is a bug. VitorFriboquen :] (Talk) 17:43, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

I got that on one article yesterday and had to try "publish" three or four times before the edit finally took. Deor (talk) 14:00, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

@Deor Me too... I think I will report this bug... VitorFriboquen :] (Talk) 17:42, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Loss_of_session_data and phab:T423206. OutsideNormality (talk) 19:27, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Notability for elections

I've always wondered if there are any specific notability guidelines for elections or similar. I normally go off WP:GNG and WP:NEVENT but want to make sure there's nothing specific I'm missing. 🌀Hurricane Wind and Fire, why'd you decline my draft? (talk, contribs)🔥 02:21, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

To be clear, you mean the notability of topics called something like "2026 election in Name of Country", not about any individual - right? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:22, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

@TooManyFingers Yeah, the notability of the election itself, not the candidates. I just wanted to ensure there was no WikiProject advice page or more specific notability criteria I was missing. 🌀Hurricane Wind and Fire, why'd you decline my draft? (talk, contribs)🔥 13:59, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

WP:NELECTION is currently red. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 08:59, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Is there a way to see the last time 'In the news' was updated?

{{In the news}}

This could be a user script for my own use while I am logged in (similar to any gadget, but most similar is the XTools gadget), or it could be a new suggestion in the ITN guideline which could say "at the end of the ITN template, please state the last update time by signing with five tildes (~~~~~) or by using a diff link". Feel free to move this to a more relevant forum. Thanks. Hason-LEK-SIN ● 💬 ● 🧱 ● 🧪 13:40, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

@Hason-LEK-SIN: The bottom of all pages say "This page was last edited on [date], [time]". Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups says how long ago a page was edited when you hover over a link to it. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:51, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Okay, the last edited time at the footer could be a workaround. Thanks! Hason-LEK-SIN ● 💬 ● 🧱 ● 🧪 14:16, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Failing that, see the page history. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 19:26, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Oh wait, the Main Page doesn't display the last update date, but then again I could add the ITN template to my watchlist. :) Hason-LEK-SIN ● 💬 ● 🧱 ● 🧪 00:27, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

@Hason-LEK-SIN: The update time of Main Page is hidden because it would be misleading to readers. Most of the displayed content changes every day but it's transcluded from other pages. "last edited" only refers to the wikitext of the page itself and Main Page hasn't been edited since 12 June 2026. It's the only page with a hidden date. A page cannot hide the date on its own. It's done at MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css#L-14. The date is still sent to the browser but with an added CSS rule to not display it. It can be revealed with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?safemode=1 which omits loading various CSS and JavaScript. Many wikis do display the date but should probably hide it like us. I'm Danish and the Danish Wikipedia hid it on my request. Their main page only has one edit since 2008 but some of the content changes daily. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:18, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Characters not rendering in pronunciation guide

Some important characters are not rendering on this pronunciation guide page.

Help:IPA/Swedish

I'm using the Android app.

image of the problem: https://www.pasteboard.co/095fwf0nrgXK.jpg

Lunarhound (talk) 13:56, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

I get that on my Android as well.

The font on the Android system simply does not contain that particular character "◌̌ ". I guess there's a way of adding another font to your phone to get it, but I don't know how. ColinFine (talk) 15:12, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

I don't understand if I'm supposed to just keep responding here by editing this section, or if there is some "reply" button I'm not seeing, but anyway... ironically, the only place it renders is on this editor (not even in your reply). So it seems like to font is on the phone, but not being found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lunarhound (talk • contribs) 17:38, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Lunarhound. On a computer, when I'm editing, the character appears as the dotted circle followed by the hacek, whereas when the text is displayed it appears as the dotted circle with the hacek above it. So I guess that the circle character is a zero-width character, but the Android display system can't display it correctly. ColinFine (talk) 18:13, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

The help page currently uses a DOTTED CIRCLE (U+25CC) followed by a COMBINING CARON (U+030C). The circle character is not zero-width; rather the caron/hacek is a combining character, so it is supposed to combine with the previous character and be displayed above it. The problem seems to be that the dotted circle does not appear in some fonts. Which is unfortunate since the important thing being conveyed is the caron, not the circle, which is just a placeholder for the character above which the caron would appear. I wonder if it would be better to just omit the circle and use a non-combining caron like U+02C7, which would appear as ˇ. (And likewise use a non-combining circumflex U+005E instead of the combining circumflex U+0302 currently being used.) Alternatively another character could be used instead of DOTTED CIRCLE but I don't know how we would choose a character that is guaranteed to appear in all fonts. CodeTalker (talk) 20:49, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Latin fonts without the letter o are relatively uncommon. :) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:04, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

True, but would a reader understand that a caron over an O is intended to mean the caron itself rather than an O with a caron on top? Maybe an underscore with a caron would work? CodeTalker (talk) 07:38, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

You're right, I obviously wasn't thinking carefully. Also obviously, your reasoning is exactly the purpose of the dotted circle so it's unfortunate that it isn't in the font/doesn't have a fallback/etc. Underscore sounds like a decent compromise for just this use, but the dotted circle is expected and is also significantly better in general; for example, underscore with caron is useful but underscore with cedilla is very-not-useful. I guess the other kind of compromise is a group of people on Android being potentially confused by this until their font gets the dotted circle. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:37, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

I think this problem has existed for some time now: . I remember reading that linked discussion, seeing a solution there, and editing Template:Navbox diacritical marks/set (which the {{Navbox diacritical marks}} template uses) to use that solution, but reverted due to lack of confidence. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 19:15, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Khalid Ali Al-Rubeaan

some (Personal attack removed) editor add tag on my wikipedia Ali AKud12 (talk) 17:10, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Khalid Ali Al-Rubeaan Ali AKud12 (talk) 17:11, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Please do not make personal attacks. 331dot (talk) 17:18, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Did you employ someone to create the article about you? 331dot (talk) 17:19, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

yes but please dont tell anyone otherwise my job lose🥲 Ali AKud12 (talk) 17:23, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

The user needs to disclose that they were paid, see WP:PAID. This is mandatory. 331dot (talk) 17:28, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Ali AKud12. You need to read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY and WP:BOSS. ColinFine (talk) 18:18, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Note: Another user, AtorneyJuju, appears to be another WP:SPA involved in editing the article and asked if they have a conflict of interest. Deletion tag was added by a now-blocked temp account. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:22, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

I've tagged the article for Wikipedia:G15 speedy deletion because it's obviously AI-generated. Sorry, @Ali AKud12, but you aren't allowed to put LLM-generated text on Wikipedia (see WP:NOLLM). Suðurhafsljósæta (talk) 17:40, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Recreated as Draft:Khalid Ali Al-Rubeaan, with no response to questions on user's talk page about paid editing. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 20:39, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Political party colors

Where I can see HTML color codes of all parties of a certain country in one place? The page Module:Political party lists them only by initial letter of the party name, not by country. --40bus (talk) 19:30, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

@40bus: I don't think there are lists by country. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:52, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Articles that show election results might unfortunately be the most efficient under the circumstances. That would tend to exclude defunct parties and minor parties, but might be better than nothing. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:21, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

A good bet is also the country's "list of political parties" article, like List of political parties in Sweden. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 16:32, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

I want to make election apportionment diagrams in an external project, and want to use right color codes. Are there color codes on a Wikidata page of a party? I don't want to dig into hundreds of party names starting on the same letter to find the right color code. The lists in the module page do not even list the country in the party row. --40bus (talk) 17:33, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

List of political parties in Sweden uses colors from Wikidata, but it may not have other parties' colors. I cannot figure out the naming pattern in Module:Political party, but if you can, there is always the option of using multiple {{Party color|<party name>}} lines in your sandbox. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 19:43, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Resource Exchange for other Wikipedias

Apologies if this is not the right forum for the question. I am wondering if there is an equivalent of WP:RX for the Finnish Wikipedia - I am interested in verifying a claim sourced to a particular book on the Finnish Wikipedia, but am unsure where to ask for access to that source. There is no direct equivalent to the project via the languages tab. I would ask on the Finnish Wikipedia, but I do not speak Finnish - I am just interested in a particular claim made in one of their articles. Katzrockso (talk) 19:40, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

@Katzrockso: to check for equivalents on another Wikipedia, you can check interlanguage links via the Wikidata item. fi:Wikipedia:Wikipedian Lähdekirjasto/Lähdepyyntö seems to have a total of two questions ever, and they were both answered in 2026. TSventon (talk) 20:05, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

I didn't see a match from the wikidata language link when I check, but thank you! Katzrockso (talk) 20:49, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

The problem could be that the link is from Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request not Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange. I started from your link to WP:RX. TSventon (talk) 21:41, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Fox on Frederick Towne Mall

In the Frederick Towne Mall's decline, a local Fox station states that the mall's decline was helped by Illegal immigrants in the mall's parking lot. Should this be added or is it regular Fox propaganda? Furthermore a rumor is that a man died which caused the Hoyts to close which was originally added here, and readded and deleted multiple times. Wobs100 (talk) 21:22, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

If the Fox claim was discussed (whether credulously or dismissively) by reliable sources, then maybe; if it wasn't, then I don't see why. When was the rumor last added? -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 23:08, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

I have to check to see if the Fox claim was backed up from others, for the stabbing, it was on April 28 of this year Wobs100 (talk) 23:20, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Wobs100, The April edit that you point to asserts that the cinematreasures.org page tells its readers that the cinema closed after the stabbing and murder of a man inside the theater. But the page does not mention any stabbing or murder. Whether the assertion was deliberately deceptive or the result of cluelessness about referencing or of EUI (Editing Under the Influence) or whatever, I see no pressing need to worry about it, as it was made half a year ago. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 00:02, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Yeah I originally added the closure with cinema treasures ref but the user added it back. Its almost like a feedback loop as it was originally added in 2016 and youtubers like Bright Sun Films:2:55 and Nation Decay (who fun fact provided images and contributed to the article) took the wiki info at face value and added it to their content and users who see the video use it as a "ghost source" and adds it back to the article. To debunk it more another video states it was a rumor and the "stabbing" and closure in 2008, while REALLY it closed in 2009 as seen as on the articles source, cinema treasures and here.

For the Fox, I couldn't find it on local newspapers archives or on Google website Wobs100 (talk) 01:50, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

I am adding more info to the article however if you want to check it out. Wobs100 (talk) 01:50, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

xkcd coined the term citogenesis for the phenomenon of WP citing a source that got its info from WP. DMacks (talk) 04:48, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Herbert Vanallen Clark - corrections needed

This individual was my father's first cousin, his mother and my grandmother were sisters.... Genealogy/family history research is my lifelong hobby. I contributed the photo and information posted by the Encyclopedia of Arkansas. Under Wikipedia's "Talk" I provided statements and sources for false information posted by Wikipedia. How can Wikipedia's article be corrected? Or will it be necessary for our family (consisting of approximately 1,200 descendants) to campaign and broadcast Wikipedia's refusal to correct your false/inaccurate posting throughout the www?

Teacakes123 (talk) 23:03, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

So, Teacakes123, you're asking about Herbert V. Clark. In Talk:Herbert V. Clark#Request_for_factual_corrections_to_the_Herbert_V._Clark_article, you've asked for edits. You've done so politely and informatively, and you've waited over a week, but there's been no refusal or other response. Well, English-language Wikipedia seemingly has squillions of articles, and this particular article will be on few editor's "watchlists". (I might even be the second person, following you, to see this "Request".) I suggest that you post to the foot of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history a very brief notice that there's a list of requests at Talk:Herbert V. Clark#Request_for_factual_corrections_to_the_Herbert_V._Clark_article. Keep this notice factual and nonpartisan. (Eager though you may be to call up hundreds of your kinsmen to storm the battlements of Wikipedia, better not to mention this eagerness.) -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 23:34, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi Teacakes123. Just to add what Hoary posted above, edit requests trying to get an article pretty much entirely re-written in one fell swoop usually never work. All of the WP:WIKIPEDIANs answering edit requests are volunteers who work at their own time and pace; so, long edit requests asking for lots of changes tend to get passed over or even ignored because figuring out what is what tends to require more time and energy than many want to spend on a single request. In addition, your request is also likely going to go unnoticed for quite awhile by those helping with requests because it's not really formatted the way requests are typically formatted. So, it might be a good idea for you to take a look at WP:EDITREQUEST and follow the guidance given there by breaking up to request in to smaller easier-to-sort out pieces. You can use the Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard to help you do this. You could add a Template:Edit COI to your current request so that it's added to the edit request queue, but I think it's only likely going to end up beng declined as it currently is.

Finally, you need to be kind of careful when you post things like this on Wikipedia. I can understand your frustration since Wikipedia can be hard to figure out when your new to it, but posting anything that resembles a "threat" of some kind if things aren't done the way you want them done when you want them done usually doesn't go down to well and can lead to issues with others. Wikipedia is a collaborative editing project entirely made up of WP:VOLUNTEERs, many of who are happy to try an help others such as yourself, but you need to be patient and let the process work. Wikipedia articles aren't WP:OWNED by their subjects or anyone who represents them. Wikipedia articles are created about subjects deemed to be Wikipedia:Notable, and permission of the subject of the article isn't needed. Similarly, articles tend to only be deleted when its demonstrated that subject isn't really Wikipedia notable and most likely shouldn't have been created to begin with; they are almost never deleted because the subject or those connected to subject are unhappy because the article isn't they way they want it to be. Wikipedia tries to WP:PRESERVE content whenever possible, particularly when there's not a really good Wikipedia policy-based or guideline-based reason to remove or delete it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:44, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Teacakes123, I warmly second what Marchjuly has written. And a minor clarification. I wrote: this particular article will be on few editor's watchlists; I meant to write this particular article, like most, will be on few editors' watchlists, so few will have been alerted to the arrival of a new message on its talk page (and not all of these will have noticed the alert). -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 07:26, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

I have added {{Edit COI}} to your existing request. Please be aware that it can take some time (several weeks is not unusual) for a volunteer to get around to reviewing such requests. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 10:59, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Is Ancestry.com a reliable source? David10244 (talk) 04:48, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

@David10244: Per WP:ANCESTRY, it's considered generally unreliable, largely in part due to WP:UGC. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:15, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Atlantic Osprey

Atlantic Osprey

Good morning, this page has a hatnote that is red linked. Is this supposed to happen? ~2026-44470-60 (talk) 00:06, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

No (rather obviously). As there is no article titled "Atlantic Osprey [qualifier]", feel free to delete the hatnote. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 00:41, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Deleting a page

I'd like to delete a page I started about the old Pittsburgh hospital. I don't feel like there's enough information for it's own page. BellyKelly (talk) 01:16, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

I have deleted Old South Pittsburgh Hospital. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 02:13, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

I'd like a page deleted that I started about the old Pittsburgh hospital BellyKelly (talk) 02:09, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, done. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 02:14, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

New Article Submission - How Long For Reply?

Hi. I submitted an article for publishing as a new page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iansteele82?oldid=1372743694) a few weeks ago but haven't had any feedback on whether the page will be accepted or not. How long does it normally take for a submission to be reviewed? Iansteele82 (talk) 03:15, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Your article was not submitted for review. I've added a template on the page so you can submit it. Once you do, it will likely take anywhere from a few hours to a few weeks for it to be reviewed. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 03:26, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the quick response. I'll take a look now. It's not the easiest of tasks, but will hopefully get it submitted now. Iansteele82 (talk) 03:37, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Yep, it's submitted now. Don't forget to add ref tags (<ref> and </ref> on either side of your citations; see Help:REFB). Good luck! :) ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 04:24, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Video on desktop

how do I view video onlineb Mylifenone (talk) 03:37, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

@Mylifenone: Is this a question specifically about viewing videos on Wikipedia? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:08, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Media video

Are iphones able to be used for viewing Mylifenone (talk) 05:22, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, they have a screen on which you can view video. Shantavira|^{feed me} 06:45, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi Mylifenone. This help desk is intended for questions related to Wikipedia; it's not a general purpose help desk for anything else. If you have general question like the above, you could try asking them at Wikipedia:Reference desk, but most likely you'll be able to find the information you need through a regular Internet search. There are lots of websites specifically devoted to iPhones and helping those with questions about iPhones; so, perhaps try asking for help at one of them. Now, if your question is directly related to media videos and Wikipedia, then please clarify how so that someone can give you a more specific answer. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:55, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Presley Gerber page made into redirect

I created a page for Presley Gerber and it was made into a redirect. I do not understand why he could not have a page of his own. He was notable in his own right as a model, not solely as the son of Cindy Crawford. There is sufficient coverage from reliable sources, and the article is not being created only because of his family background. He had an independent career, and many smaller biographies with less information are permitted. This page could also be expanded further. ItsShandog (talk) 08:35, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Please see other stuff exists; we judge each article individually on their own merits and not based on the presence of other articles that themselves may be inappropriate and just not yet addressed by a volunteer. There are many ways inappropriate content can exist on Wikipedia, this cannot justify adding more inappropriate content. That another article exists does not necessarily mean that is is "permitted" or "approved", it only means we haven't dealt with it yet. You can help us to do so, if you wish.

It was made into a redirect by Amakuru with the reason "Redirect non-notable person to notable parent per WP:NOTINHERITED and WP:BLP1E, doesn't meet WP:GNG even if he's in the news for his recent sad death". I would suggest first discussing your concerns with them directly.

Your text mentioned that he was a model, but there was little critical analysis and commentary about his modeling career. 331dot (talk) 08:41, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Article has been restored after discussion at User talk:Amakuru#Presley Gerber. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 10:49, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Investigation on an editor

A user with a bunch of numbers and has made 0 edits prior has just said that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2026 Women's European Volleyball Championship final round and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2026 Men's European Volleyball Championship final round which I initially created should be deleted. That seems insanely sketchy to me and I would like someone to take a look at it.

Best regards ILoveSport2006 (talk) 08:57, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

The "bunch of numbers" indicates a Temporary account; people using TAs have (subject to restrictions in certain topic areas or protected articles) as much right to comment as anyone else.

The articles will stand or fall depending on the consensus in the whole discussion(s) as to whether they comply with relevant policies; not the opinion of one contributor. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 10:46, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ILoveSport2006. Anyone can, in principle, participate in an AFD discussion. The numbers you're referring to most likely indicate a Wikipedia:Temporary account. Wikipedia users aren't required to register for an account to edit, and many do use temporary accounts. In fact, they may have been editing using temporary accounts for years and made lots of edits doing so. The best thing you could do is address the reasons why the articles were nominated for deletion in terms of relevant Wikipedia policies since that how consensus is determined: it's WP:NOTABALLOT where the side with the most votes wins. Articles tend to only be deleted when they lack a clear claim of Wikipedia:Notability and no amount editing is going to be able to WP:OVERCOME that. You also should be careful of how you notify others of an AfD type of discussion and avoid anything that might be considered WP:CANVASSING. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:03, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

List of 2026 deaths

 Courtesy link: List of 2026 deaths

Gary McCracken - drummer of Max Webster died last week and is not on the Wikipedia Rock 'n' Roll deaths.. how can I reach or can you forward to the propere editor..? ~2026-50819-00 (talk) 09:00, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Added. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 10:36, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia links remain blue

hello I have an issue with my Wikipedia website on my iPhone the problem is I open a link(for example Lionel Messi) I open the tabs that the article has but some of the Tabs even though they exist and I Can open them remain Blue instead of purple after I return to the original page I used Safari , Google and FireFox but it had no effect it remains blue Eshien Hemon (talk) 14:39, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

I think "some visited links remain blue" is an Apple bug and not a Wikipedia one, but I can't remember for sure. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:41, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Historic Data

Hi, I have seen in the Wikipedia page of Pakistan related districts and cities, the religious composition shows table for every decadal census. Is this actually okay or can I remove them? Some of them like Lahore, Multan etc has religious census data from 1868 till the recent 2023 Census Weichan123 (talk) 17:15, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Looking at those pages, the tables don't seem to take up an inordinate amount of space. Assuming they are correctly sourced, why would you remove them? Suðurhafsljósæta (talk) 18:13, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

When we are covering religious demographics isn't it better to cover just recent census and just one old census? Weichan123 (talk) 07:28, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

I don’t really think so. The articles cover the history of the cities as well as their current status, and we also include historical census data for overall population. This seems fine to me. Suðurhafsljósæta (talk) 08:33, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Ok thanks Weichan123 (talk) 17:48, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@Weichan123 I think (?) that you might be questioning the inclusion of religion because a Wikipedia article about a person should not include their religion except under certain circumstances. As far as I know, that non-inclusion of religion is just for individuals, and does not apply to the census statistics for a country. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 04:46, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

No..not for individuals, in the above mentioned pages on cities, the religion section covers census data from 1868 Weichan123 (talk) 07:23, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm saying that we don't usually mention the religion of one individual, but we DO want old census data about religion and it should definitely be kept. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 21:18, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Ok, got it Weichan123 (talk) 05:08, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

User:Toketaa

I saw that on Toketaa’s user page, it listed multiple sockpuppet accounts stating that they had sockpuppet accounts such as User:Sadbunny3, and even User:Alibino. I think that maybe Toketaa should be blocked, violation of sockpuppeting.

Thanks,

Bennett Li11 (talk) 18:48, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Can I please talk to a SYSOPS or Admin? Bennett Li11 (talk) 18:55, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

They were previously blocked but made a successful unblock request. If you’d like to talk to an admin, you’d need to go to WP:Administrators' noticeboard or post on your talk page Template:admin help. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 19:37, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Possible sockpuppetry?

Hello! This could be entirely nothing, so tell me if I’m being too BITEy, but this mentee’s question and this one do look remarkably similar. They were posted only a minute apart, are essentially the same question phrased slightly differently, and have very similar usernames.

Am I just seeing signal in the noise here?

(Edited to add:) Sorry if this is the wrong venue; I thought SPI probably wasn’t the place for such feels-based ‘maybe this is a sockpuppet’ cases, which is why I brought this here, but if there’s a venue for this kind of thing, let me know. Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} (any/all) In solidarity. 22:30, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

(Non-administrator comment) Hi Shadestar474. The use of multiple accounts on Wikipedia by a single user is allowed in certain cases and isn't in and of itself considered to be WP:SOCKPUPPETRY. Sockpuppetry basically implies that someone is using multiple accounts in a way that's detrimental to someone truly being WP:HERE; it's an intentional attempt to evade scrutiny and circumvent policies and guidelines related to normal editing and user behavior. In this case, the similarity of the two posts could indicate they're connected in some way (most likely the case) but could also be one person copying what someone else posted right before them (perhaps not as likely); either way, those two particular accounts have only made one edit each so far, which was just to ask a pretty benign question, and haven't violated any policy or guideline per se. Even if the same person did create both accounts, it seems more likely (at this point) to have been done more in error than anything else. Anyway, both accounts have been advised on their respective user talk pages by another user about the issues related to creating multiple accounts; so, I don't think anything further needs to be done here. Unless you're able to connect these accounts to some other perhaps previously blocked/banned account, an WP:SPI is probably not needed at this point, at least in my opinion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:06, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, just checking. :) I don’t know a whole lot about policy relating to using multiple accounts, since it isn’t something I encounter often, so I’ll keep this in mind. Cheers! 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} (any/all) In solidarity. 00:29, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

ASIN

Hello Help Desk. What is the policy of ASIN references? I have found one, that seems improper in more than simply ASIN. I understood that ASIN was not to be used. It seems, please understand stress on word "seems," to be possible product placement in reference section of this article: Timeline of Francis Drake's circumnavigation. I wonder if it is a proper edit and uncertain how to proceed. Kind regards, Ah Ngo. Ah Ngo (talk) 00:23, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

The template {{ASIN}} (for the Amazon Standard Identification Number) says This is "an identifier of last resort". Almost any other identifier, such as {{ISBN}}, {{doi}}, {{OCLC}}, {{LCCN}}, etc., is a better choice and should be used instead of this one.

So the reference probably needs further investigation. TSventon (talk) 01:30, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@Ah Ngo: I have removed the source. It is self published, not used as a source and was only added on 17 September. It was added as the first line, in bold, with an ASIN rather than an ISBN. TSventon (talk) 01:45, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Is wikipedia shutting down soon?

I heard wikipedia is getting less traffic than it ever has before and wikipedia has also been asking me for donations more then usual. ~2026-51056-17 (talk) 00:31, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-51056-17: Wikipedia isn't shutting down anytime soon. The Wikimedia Foundation usually starts soliciting near the end of the year. If you don't want to see the banners, create an account and go to Preferences → Banners → Fundraising and make sure it is unchecked. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:57, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

introducing a new subject for the pages Wikipedia

how do I write a biography of a person to be entered into the pages of Wikipedia? StaplesBets (talk) 00:33, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@StaplesBets: You will want to read Your first article and confirm that the person is wikinotable enough for inclusion. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:57, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @StaplesBets, and welcome to Wikipedia.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia.

I will add to that boilerplate message that somebody who starts editing Wikipedia and immediately wants to write about a particular person or organisation almost always has some connection to that person or organisation, and needs to read about conflict of interest, about promotion, and quite often about When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 09:58, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Lack of Articles about RF interferences for communication satellites

Hi,

while following another nerd-rabbithole Ive noticed a lack of article(s) about RF interferences for communication satellites. An arising challenge of the past 5-7 years is the increasing amount of unintentional RF interferences that happen due to the increasing amount of communication satellites (e.g starlink, oneweb).

There is of course a very general article about EM interferences, and in the article for Radio jamming the existence of unintentional RF interferences is mentioned, but there is no own article on this topic.

It feels like I am making this topic up because I can find literally nothing else in Wikipedia. But I am not! French defense company Safran reports its issues, and ESA provides a map of occurences of this phenomen. ESA also has conferences soley dedicated to this topic and it also became more dominant in recent space safety and SSA research.

Any comments? ~2026-50947-38 (talk) 09:20, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

So fix it! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:21, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Dark Mode - accessibility

Hi Team Wiki

Can the dark/light mode be automated using browser / device settings. Finding difficult to set on each visit. ~2026-51087-96 (talk) 10:02, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ~2026-51087-96 - AFAIK only if you create an account, then you can add a dark mode toggle under "preferences", "devices". Arjayay (talk) 10:11, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

2 pages with the same list.

Hi there. I see there are lists with all video games released by a system. There's also the Category page which lists the same games on 1 page. For example: List of Xbox 360 games and Category:Xbox 360 games. Is there a reason there's 2 pages with more or less the same content? AngelSparkles (talk) 17:29, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@AngelSparkles: Categories can only show the page name which is added by editing the article, not the category, and there are special search methods for categories. Lists like List of Xbox 360 games (A–L) can add different details. See more at Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:32, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter Ok. Thanks. AngelSparkles (talk) 17:14, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Header Change

How do I change the header of a Wiki-Page? Talk2vit (talk) 17:34, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

You mean the title? See WP:Moving a page. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 17:35, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

I will note, however, that your userpage would be immediately tagged for deletion if you attempted to move it into mainspace. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 17:37, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

The user page User:Talk2vit has a great amount of information about one person and looks like an article (an article doomed for deletion, but an article all the same). The list of things that you may not have in your user pages includes "Inappropriate or excessive personal information unrelated to Wikipedia" and "User pages that look like articles". -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 21:41, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@Talk2vit Your equivalent submission at Draft:Vitus Maximilan-Mary Nwabueze has been declined and is clearly an attempt at autobiography. Read that linked page and note that you are likely to fail to meet Wikipedia's inclusion criteria. We also have strict rules about biographies of living people. They must by policy give inline citations for all facts, which your draft fails to do. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:09, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Link to my video in YouTube

Innocently, I uploaded a video to YouTube (j9IXaMAbXjc) showing a molecule rotating in 3D, with the intent of citing it in the "Phytochrome" article I am editing . But now I see that it's not allowed for copyright reasons - even though it's my video! How can I get around this? Best Photochrom (talk) 21:36, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Photochrom.

Please see Donating copyright materials. ColinFine (talk) 21:48, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@Photochrom Put the acceptable Creative Commons license on the YT vid/page, like this video here:. Then you can upload it licensed like this: Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:56, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

hi @Gråbergs Gråa Sång

that was very helpful - easy when you know how!

best Photochrom (talk) 11:57, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Would like a high resolution copy of a photo.

Hi I would like to use the photo by Cyclonebiskit of the Woolsey Fire (on wikimedia commons) for a book I'm writing.

Is there a high resolution version of the photo I can use? Thank you. ~2026-51216-07 (talk) 21:54, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-51216-07.

Assuming you are talking about c:File:Woolsey Fire evacuation from Malibu on November 9, 2018.jpg, you can look at that information page on Commons, and see that Cyclonebiskit uploaded it at 1080x906, and licensed it under CC-BY-SA 4.0.

If that resolution is not adequate for your purposes, the only way you are going to get a higher resolution is by asking Cyclonebiskit if they have one.

However, @Cyclonebiskit says on their user page that they are retired, so they will probably not see messages on their user talk page. They have enabled email, however, so if you create an account and enable email, you will be able to go to their user page and "Email this user". (There's no guarantee that they'll respond, of course). ColinFine (talk) 22:43, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Attendance

i got terminated by the system ~2026-51264-65 (talk) 21:57, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

please clarify: is this related to Wikipedia? RudolfRed (talk) 22:13, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

CATALANO FOR AMERICA 2028

IT CAME OUT 2928 IN THE TITLE, IT IS WRON,G I MUST CHANGE THIS CATALANOFORAMERICA2928 (talk) 00:53, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

@CATALANOFORAMERICA2928: There is a process for changing username, if that helps. - Purplewowies (talk) 01:24, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Also note that spaces are allowed. And you can just create a new account if you abandon this one without making edits against Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:03, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

how do i fix this can i just start over? CATALANOFORAMERICA2928 (talk) 02:12, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

@CATALANOFORAMERICA2928: Yes, you can just start over with another account. If you make no further edits as CATALANOFORAMERICA2928 then you will not break Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:25, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

@CATALANOFORAMERICA2928 When you start over, do not select a username that sounds like you are campaigning for an election. "CATALANOFORAMERICA2028", for example, would not be an allowed username. David10244 (talk) 04:58, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia IP users.

So I just discovered Wikipedia got rid of them. But why did Wikipedia think it was a good idea to expose your IP address to EVERYONE if you are not logged in? Like I don't want some psycho coming to my house because he didn't like my edit. I'm glad that temp accounts replaced it so I don't have to worry about creeps knowing where I live. ~2026-51422-48 (talk) 02:34, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

It worked, and many preferred it to registering. Also an old thing, and I think pretty common when it started, and there was opposition to changing it without something that wouldn't make things harder for editors to stop disruption in it's place. It happened anyway per "lawyers says we must". You may find Wikipedia:Temporary_accounts#History interesting, there are still some Wikipedians who can find out your IP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:49, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

It's also worth noting that IPs generally don't identify your exact address, just your general geographical area (exactly how precise depends on how your internet service provider has set up their network). Still a privacy issue certainly, and that's why the WMF was pressured to move away from that. Athanelar (talk) 20:59, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Help with template error message

On Talk:Auguste Escoffier School of Culinary Arts, I was pinged to help with a connected edit request, and noticed the Edit COI template and others in the latest request aren't rendering correctly. In preview mode, it says at the top "Warning: Post-expand include size is too large. Some templates will not be included", which links to Help:Template limits#Post-expand include size. There's no info about what to do to fix this. I tried removing some templates in preview mode, but that didn't do anything. Can anyone help fix this so the templates work correctly? STEMinfo (talk) 07:12, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

I've archived two resolved sections from the talk page, which should help. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:34, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Link directs to wrong page

This link

• James Royston Clark on Category:English broadcasters for Nazi Germany goes to the wrong page (about a different person)

~2026-51263-16 (talk) 09:19, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

That link redirects to "Dolly Eckersley's German sojourn" under Edward Clark's personal life section (because no dedicated article exists for James Royston Clark). - Rehman 09:39, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-51263-16 Good find, per WP:RCAT that link shouldn't be in any content categories because it's a redirect and not an article. I've now removed it from all the categories it was in. Thanks for your contribution! Athanelar (talk) 20:57, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

@Athanelar: WP:RCAT does allow redirects in content categories, it is a matter of judgement when that helps navigation and when it doesn't. TSventon (talk) 21:40, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

I should know better than to go off of my half-remembrance of these things; egg on my face. Still, the given examples don't apply here, and I don't think it makes sense for the link to be in the categories it was in given what it redirects to. Athanelar (talk) 21:42, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Personal lies

counter claim against lies about myself ~2026-51256-63 (talk) 09:59, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

If you have concerns about the content of an article about you, please raise them at the Biographies of living persons noticeboard. 331dot (talk) 10:28, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Query about the copyright status of an image

What would the copyright status of this image from this news article by The Wire be, and would it be okay for me to publish it to Wikimedia Commons? — EarthDude (Talk) 14:26, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

You might do better to ask on Commons, at c:Commons:Village pump/Copyright. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 15:01, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Fish

feesh DiysonDevil (talk) 15:14, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 15:15, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

so how do I create an article DiysonDevil (talk) 15:30, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Creating a new article is not recommended as the first thing a new user does. There is much to learn about the process, and not doing so is likely to lead to frustration. It is best to first edit existing articles to learn how things work and what is expected of article content.

If you wish to proceed anyway, please first use the new user tutorial, then use the Article Wizard to create a draft. 331dot (talk) 15:36, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

@DiysonDevil Wikipedia already has many articles about fish. Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:18, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Thumb images in tables

Somewhere, we have advice about not using |thumb with images inside tables, but I can't find it. It ought to be at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images. The closest that I can find is MOS:INFOBOXIMAGE but that's specific to infoboxes, not tables more generally. The guidance - as I recall it - is basically about avoiding borders-within-borders. As an example of what I want to clean up, see List of ArmaLite rifles, where the image's padding, border and margin occupy more real estate than the image itself. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:58, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Table formatting

Does anyone know why this edit isn't displaying properly? It doesn't work even if the rowspan=3 comes first; I've tried.

Pinging Livelikemusic, who made the edit. ~2026-41404-95 (talk) 18:36, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Please do not ping me, thank you. livelikemusic (TALK!) 18:39, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

This is, essentially, the same issue as Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 138#Table formatting List_of_mayors_of_Bremen. It's come up at VPT much more recently - within the last two years I would say - but that's the one I found in a quick search. In brief: every column has a rowspan somewhere, and none of the columns have separate cells for every row. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:56, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

@Redrose64 Thanks, but I don't really understand your explanation on that page, although I do see you mentioning in that thread that you fixed the issue. Could you please fix it on this article too? ~2026-41404-95 (talk) 19:06, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

The only "fix" that is both reliable and non-hacky involves ensuring that there is at least one column that has no rowspans, and that is what was done here. I've also found Help talk:Table#Row split in two. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:23, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

I have used another fix with height:3em to avoid repeating the ref. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:14, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much! ~2026-41404-95 (talk) 20:24, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

biography of F. Scott Fitzgerald

Is there any way that I can pay you for your written biography of F. Scott Fitzerald? I do not like to print out that many pages from my own computer. I would be glad to pay you for a written biography mailed to my home address. ~2026-51416-82 (talk) 20:18, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't offer that kind of service; it is an online encyclopedia run by remote volunteers. If your local library has a printer, you could try printing it there if you like. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 20:22, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-51416-82. Another possibility is to pick "Download as PDF", and then take or send that PDF to your local print-shop and ask them to print it. ColinFine (talk) 20:27, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Instagram photos as a reference

I am researching Stephanie Spruill, vocal coach to the movie Michael, singer, songwriter and percussionist. I saw on her Instagram account that she received Grammy Appreciation Certificates for her background vocals work on several Grammy Award winning projects: Dolly Parton's "9 to 5," Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive," Donna Summer's "Hot Stuff," and Irene Cara's "Flashdance - What A Feeling." Could I use the Instagram link as a reference in writing a Wikipedia article on Stephanie Spruill? https://www.instagram.com/p/DUmcDPfDCia/ Linwoods96 (talk) 21:09, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

No. Don't use social media references, particularly instagram. It is user-generated content and is junk. scope_creep^Talk 21:22, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Until you have three major sources that each discuss her career in depth and at length without any influence from her, literally nothing can get the article accepted. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 02:28, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

This does not include images, which generally have minimal context imputed to them. I will also point out that backstage personnel are vanishingly likely to have any sources on them that would be acceptable for Wikipedia. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 18:28, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

This does not include images @Jéské Couriano Which "this" are you referring to, that doesn't include images? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 21:33, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Guidance around template colouring

Evening folks!! What is the guidance around template colouring. I specifically looking at the two dropdowns on this article. Yasht i Gahan, It looks like an odd colour? scope_creep^Talk 21:19, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Does MOS:COLOUR help? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 22:12, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Notability of biblical figures

Do we have a specific policy on the notability of people mentioned in the Bible? How about the Quran? If not. what would be the closest notability guideline? --Guy Macon (talk) 05:32, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability (people) is the policy. I don't see how being mentioned in the Bible or Quran would make any difference. Shantavira|^{feed me} 06:55, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

I think this is probably a policy gap where it would be sensible to have some kind of presumed notability. I would imagine that given the sheer volume of academic study of these texts, there must be significant coverage available for any and every named figure in them. Athanelar (talk) 10:59, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

List of biblical figures identified in extra-biblical sources is quite extensive, and they are virtually all blue links already. No doubt there are many more about whom we know nothing at all except that their name appears in the Bible. Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:14, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blastus (2010) theer were two opinions posted:

[1] "Though this individual is a biblical character, without provide additional scholarship which verifies the individual's importance (i.e. Reliable secondary sources which deal with the individual), this individual is not notable. The New Testament isn't so important in a scholarly/encyclopedic sense as to warrant articles on each named minor individual. A list perhaps, which contains individuals in said book, but not individual articles."

[2] "The Bible and Qu'ran are significant enough, and covered by so many sources, that any person mentioned in either will be the subject of significant coverage"

Now the same question appears to be surfacing at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hul (biblical figure) (ongoing AfD). --Guy Macon (talk) 12:50, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

The "Wikipedia rule" that comes to my mind first, when I read the article, is that Hul definitely does not meet SIGCOV inside the Bible. He is merely mentioned, twice, in genealogy tables. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:44, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

There is a lot of begatting in the Bible, and undoubtedly several figures who are hapax legomenona known by name only. The most famous of these would be, or so I assume, in the conflicting genealogies of Jesus. Shall research. kencf0618 (talk) 16:46, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, I would say if we did presume notability of scriptural figures then a notable exception would be anyone who is only namedropped in a genealogy. Athanelar (talk) 19:32, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

The Christian texts must be among the most-studied published works ever. Over the last 2,000 years there have probably been sufficient students of Christian theology to have analysed the Bible from end to end, many times over. This includes the apocrypha and other historical texts that, while related, are not normally bundled with those (Secret Gospel of Mark, anyone?). In these researches, these students have, between them, probably covered every single aspect of interpersonal relationships, not just the begetting. In the libraries of Oxford and Cambridge there's a wealth of published work that would satisfy WP:V, it just needs somebody to go and read it all. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:36, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

My mum became obsessed with Christianity at an early age. She even refused to marry my dad (who turned out to be a complete asshole) unless he was baptised as an Anglican, and subsequently named me, her oldest son, after Jeremiah. I feel the weight of thousands of years of biblical exegesis upon my shoulders - a bit like Atlas: thus woe unto the lot of you, and no mistake. MinorProphet (talk) 15:22, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

How long does an article stay on AFD

Does an AfD discussion block an ITN nomination? The article I created Presley Gerber was nominated for ITN before it was listed at AfD. ItsShandog (talk) 07:03, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ItsShandog. I believe an AfD is, in principle, allowed to remain open at least a week (unless its closed earlier for a good reason), but there's no limit as to how long it can remain open. Basically, it remains open until someone feels enough of a discussion has taken place to close it. An administrator can even relist an AfD when more discussion could lead to a clearer consensus. My feeling is that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Presley Gerber will probably remain open for at least a week and most likely longer given the arguments made by both sides and the number of comments made so far. As for whether an AfD affects an ITN nomination, I'd imagine it would because generally only articles without any currently pending issues tend to be the ones that end up on the main page (which is where ITN is mentioned). -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:42, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

How can I confirm if a page has been reviewed?

Usually, when a page is reviewed it shows that it has been in the notices, but on one I created yesterday it says a review has suggested improvements, which was only the orphan tag that I have now resolved and would have addressed anyway. I cannot see it on the new pages feed, and it is not appearing in Google search, where pages normally show up soon after review. I have not come across this before, so I am not sure how to confirm whether it has been fully reviewed yet. The Page is Killing of Inga Maria Hauser. ItsShandog (talk) 11:40, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ItsShandog, I went to Special:NewPagesFeed, clicked on "Set filters" to look at pages you created and saw that Killing of Inga Maria Hauser has a blue "This page is still unreviewed" icon. TSventon (talk) 13:01, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

No problem, thank you! ItsShandog (talk) 13:45, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Paid editing offer

Today, I received an email offering to create a Wikipedia draft/article for me. I uploaded screenshots of the email to Wikimedia Commons so that I could show the Wikipedia community the offer as evidence.

The files are:

• File:Paid editing offer.jpg
• File:Recived mail from wiki user.jpg

The email appears to promote the services of Wikipedia Publishers. The website advertises Wikipedia page development, draft creation and submission, content updates, restoration and dispute resolution, and ongoing monitoring. It also lists paid Wikipedia packages.Pawan CA7 (talk) 12:15, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

please instead send this to the email address discussed at WP:REPORTPAID. Please read the scam warning. 331dot (talk) 12:20, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

It should probably be noted that User:Sophiabennett declares a CoI with regard to at least some of the articles listed on her user page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:23, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

As you may know it's not uncommon at all for scammers to impersonate legitimate editors. 331dot (talk) 12:26, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Meaning I should pay him and get the work done correct??? Wiki allowed that? Pawan CA7 (talk) 12:28, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Again, please read the scam warning. We generally advise people never to pay money for someone to edit Wikipedia. However, the choice is ultimately yours. 331dot (talk) 12:31, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Well well well.... let see thank you.... Pawan CA7 (talk) 12:32, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi Andy,

I am not the same person mentioned in attachements. Thanks Sophiabennett (talk) 12:47, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

References

Mgr Yvo Josef Rynda

Hezký den,

jmenuji se Mgr. Yvo Josef Rynda.

Žádám Vás o pomoc. Prosím Vás, odstraňte VŠECHNO, co se týká mého jména→ texty, obrázky. Nesouhlasím je zveřejňovat. Všechno do koše. Je to proti zákonům. Děkuji Vám. Mgr. Yvo Josef Rynda

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&sca_esv=033d84a1d3790378&udm=2&biw=1280&bih=573&ei=CRC1arNE2evv9Q-088vgAw&ved=2ahUKEwjz7LXflIeXAxXZ9bsIHbT5EjwQ4dUDegQIBhAN&uact=5&oq=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&gs_lp=Egtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZyIPUnluZGEgWXZvIEpvc2VmMgYQABgIGB5I1lZQmw9YkENwAXgAkAEAmAE8oAGWBKoBAjEwuAEDyAEA-AEBmAILoAKkBcICBhAAGAcYHsICBRAAGIAEwgIHEAAYgAQYE8ICCRAAGIAEGBMYCpgDAIgGAZIHAjExoAefCbIHAjEwuAeDBcIHBzItOS4xLjHIB1SACAE&sclient=gws-wiz-img#sv=CAMSURoyKhBlLUFFWUN6R3dqbXpQMG1NMg5BRVlDekd3am16UDBtTToOcGNtY2ptX0lIbzVKQU0gBCoXCgFzEhBlLUFFWUN6R3dqbXpQMG1NGAEwARgHIJ7J-okKSggQARgBIAEoAQ

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&sca_esv=033d84a1d3790378&udm=2&biw=1280&bih=573&ei=CRC1arNE2evv9Q-088vgAw&ved=2ahUKEwjz7LXflIeXAxXZ9bsIHbT5EjwQ4dUDegQIBhAN&uact=5&oq=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&gs_lp=Egtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZyIPUnluZGEgWXZvIEpvc2VmMgYQABgIGB5I1lZQmw9YkENwAXgAkAEAmAE8oAGWBKoBAjEwuAEDyAEA-AEBmAILoAKkBcICBhAAGAcYHsICBRAAGIAEwgIHEAAYgAQYE8ICCRAAGIAEGBMYCpgDAIgGAZIHAjExoAefCbIHAjEwuAeDBcIHBzItOS4xLjHIB1SACAE&sclient=gws-wiz-img#sv=CAMSURoyKhBlLWNMWk5QZmZNN2xJbEZNMg5jTFpOUGZmTTdsSWxGTToOWXVHMHlWdU5NSXE4TE0gBCoXCgFzEhBlLWNMWk5QZmZNN2xJbEZNGAEwARgHIN-Az-MGSggQARgBIAEoAQ

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soubor:Kn%C4%9Bz_Yvo_Josef_Rynda.jpg

Good day,

My name is Mgr. Yvo Josef Rynda.

I am asking for your help. Please remove EVERYTHING related to my name—texts and images. I do not consent to their publication. Delete it all. It is against the law. Thank you. Mgr. Yvo Josef Rynda

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&sca_esv=033d84a1d3790378&udm=2&biw=1280&bih=573&ei=CRC1arNE2evv9Q-088vgAw&ved=2ahUKEwjz7LXflIeXAx XZ9bsIHbT5EjwQ4dUDegQIBhAN&uact=5&oq=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&gs_lp=Egtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZyIPUnluZGEgWXZvIEpvc2VmMgYQABgIGB5I1lZQmw9YkENwAXgAkAEAmAE8oAGWBKoBAj EwuAEDyAEA-AEBmAILoAKkBcICBhAAGAcYHsICBRAAGIAEwgIHEAAYgAQYE8ICCRAAGIAEGBMYCpgDAIgGAZIHAjExoAefCbIHAjEwuAeDBcIHBzItOS4xLjHIB1SACAE&sclient=gws-wiz -img#sv=CAMSURoyKhBlLUFFWUN6R3dqbXpQMG1NMg5BRVlDekd3am16UDBtTToOcGNtY2ptX0lIbzVKQU0gBCoXCgFzEhBlLUFFWUN6R3dqbXpQMG1NGAEwARgHIJ7J-okKSggQARgBIAEoAQ

https://www.google.com/search ?q=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&sca_esv=033d84a1d3790378&udm=2&biw=1280&bih=573&ei=CRC1arNE2evv9Q-088vgAw&ved=2ahUKEwjz7LXflIeXAxXZ9bsIHbT5EjwQ4dUDegQI BhAN&uact=5&oq=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&gs_lp=Egtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZyIPUnluZGEgWXZvIEpvc2VmMgYQABgIGB5I1lZQmw9YkENwAXgAkAEAmAE8oAGWBKoBAjEwuAEDyAEA-AEBm AILoAKkBcICBhAAGAcYHsICBRAAGIAEwgIHEAAYgAQYE8ICCRAAGIAEGBMYCpgDAIgGAZIHAjExoAefCbIHAjEwuAeDBcIHBzItOS4xLjHIB1SACAE&sclient=gws-wiz-img#sv= CAMSURoyKhBlLWNMWk5QZmZNN2xJbEZNMg5jTFpOUGZmTTdsSWxGTToOWXVHMHlWdU5NSXE4TE0gBCoXCgFzEhBlLWNMWk5QZmZNN2xJbEZNGAEwARgHIN-Az-MGSggQARgBIAEoAQ

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soubor:Kn%C4%9Bz_Yvo_Josef_Rynda.jpg ~2026-51477-99 (talk) 12:40, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Firstly, it should be noted that 'consent for publication' is not a legal requirement in any jurisdiction I can think of. Secondly, we have no control over what Google does. And thirdly, if you have an issue with what appears to be a legitimately-licensed photograph hosted on the Czech Wikipedia, you need to raise the issue there: this is the English-language Wikipedia, and we have no authority over what goes on there. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:54, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Firstly, I haven't heard of it either. The EU's Right to Be Forgotten isn't as much as mentioned, and there's a book in Czech about it! (See above). Secondly, DuckDuckGo likewise. Which brings up a Facebook page and a YouTube video. That bird has flown. And thirdly, Monsignor, as per the Streisand effect https://tn.nova.cz/zpravodajstvi/clanek/371415-v-cesku-slouzi-falesny-knez-varovala-sestra-je-to-jinak, https://isir.justice.cz/isir/doc/dokument.PDF?id=56337838#2#1, etc. kencf0618 (talk) 17:57, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

My read of it is that "consent for publication" is based on a misinterpretation of the Right to Be Forgotten. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 18:24, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

According to the article on Nova, Rynda has been accepted back into the church after leaving it in the past, BUT accepted as a layman and not as clergy; it says he has been misrepresenting himself by dressing up as a priest when he is not a priest. The law about this, whatever it is, is only about people's private lives. Pretending to be a priest is not a private matter. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 04:30, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Oral tradition legend

How do I add an article about a piece of folklore that is part of local oral tradition? Turkey Creek Legend (talk) 14:39, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Per core Wikipedia policy, Wikipedia articles must meet notability criteria: which requires in-depth coverage in published reliable sources. You'd have to find the sources first, which may very well not be possible. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:54, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

To protect the folklore, I would advise against trying to get it included here. Wikipedia has strict rules that allow only material from impartial publications with paid fact-checkers on staff, and there is no exception for oral tradition. This means that you, and others who actually know the story, would be actively prevented from correcting it according to your own knowledge. You can imagine that newspaper reporters (and so on) may have made a hash of the story over the years, and their version - with no additions or corrections from you - is the only thing Wikipedia would accept.

This rule was not really made for people like you - it was made to keep out intentional lies, misguided researchers with crackpot theories, and stuff that some individual simply made up one day. But it is a foundational rule of Wikipedia, and exceptions aren't made to it. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:14, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

I'll add - if you do have several sources that fit Wikipedia's definition of reliable sources, and if you're satisfied to present only their version of the story, then go ahead and start writing! Every important point of the story has to be cited to the exact page where a reliable source has printed that information. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:28, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

delete pages- Robert Hurlbut from Rochester NY

Im looking for a deleted page. It's on Robert Hurlbut from Rochester NY. I know there was a page. Could someone search your deleted pages and send me a download or special link? I'm doing some research on my grandfather. ~2026-51428-31 (talk) 15:24, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

I just looked for "Robert Hurlbut" as the title of a deleted article or deleted draft-article, and in all archived discussions and mentions in any other place on-wiki that might have been linked previously, and came up empty:( Might it have included a middle name/initial or used a shortened form of "Robert"? DMacks (talk) 16:18, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Or is it possible that the article was under the name of an event or item, something he was involved with that received more press coverage than he did as a person? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:35, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-51428-31 Wikidata led me to two articles about a surgeon with that name, see this one and this one. Does that help? Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:28, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Robert Hurlbut of Rochester N.Y. suggests Robert H. Hurlbut, nursing home owner, but "Robert H. Hurlbut" never existed. TSventon (talk) 17:33, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Do you have an idea approximately when the article did exist? DMacks (talk) 18:34, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

I found a 20 year old decline: Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/2006-09-02#Robert_Hurlbut, but he doesn't seem to be from Rochester. MKFI (talk) 19:27, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Actor Mustaq khan age is 76 but showing 56 in wiki

Actor Mustaq khan age is 76 but showing 56 in wiki ~2026-51618-89 (talk) 17:56, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Mushtaq Khan. 1969 - 2026 is 56/57 years, as the sources in the article state. ~2026-51457-41 (talk) 18:20, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

The article Mushtaq Khan (note spelling used for article) cites four published sources giving either his age as 56 or 57 or his birthdate as 31 December 1969 (though none of these sources may be entirely reliable). Although people in showbusiness sometimes falsify their ages for career purposes, a discrepancy of 20 years would not seem plausible.

What published source (ideally a WP:Reliable source) do you have that instead gives his age as 76, implying he was born in 1949/50, not 1969/70, or that gives his date of birth?

Are you perhaps confusing this actor and comedian with someone else of the same name (though presumably not Mushtaq Khan (economist), who is 64/5)? The name appears not unusual, so there must be many people (alive and dead) who share it. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-41275-62 (talk) 18:21, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

IMDb lists three actors called Mustaq Khan but doesn't give an age for any of them. None have Wikipedia articles, and they are probably not notable. Multiple reliable sources agree that Mushtaq Khan was 56. Certes (talk) 18:51, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

restoration of the article

Hello! I would like to ask a question regarding the article about the renowned Russian antique dealer and collector Mikhail Alekseyevich Suslov.

The article was recently deleted. Mikhail Suslov is a patron of the arts and a philanthropist from St. Petersburg, as well as one of the foremost experts on antiques.

With his consent, I am requesting assistance in restoring the page. We are prepared to substantiate all the published information with sources.

Sincerely and with gratitude! ~2026-51498-76 (talk) 18:32, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-51498-76 I can't find any former article about such a man, could you tell us exactly what the title of the article was so that we can check the reason for deletion?

In any case, creating a Wikipedia article is bot merely about "substantiating" the information; you need to prove that he meets our special definition of a notable person in order for there to be an article about him, not merely prove that he exists. Athanelar (talk) 19:37, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

In addition, having Suslov's consent is a difficult problem for you, not a helpful thing at all. It means you have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest on the topic of Suslov, and your ability and permission to write about him is in fact greatly reduced - not increased at all. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 20:54, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Good afternoon! Thank you for the detailed answers.

I am not an affiliate of Mr. Suslov, nor do I carry out any personal or business assignments for him.

I am attaching a link to a photograph from the original article. That article, which was in Russian, focused on Mikhail Alekseyevich Suslov and featured this photo.

Mikhail Alekseyevich Suslov is one of Russia's most renowned collectors and antique dealers; he has collaborated on numerous projects with the Hermitage Museum and the Tretyakov Gallery and has donated artworks from his collection to major museums in Russia and around the world.

He undoubtedly belongs among the contemporary figures in art and culture who have their own Wikipedia articles. It is possible that the article was deleted by detractors as a result of a personal conflict.

I am relying on your experience; with respect and gratitude.

File:Суслов Михаил Алексеевич.jpg. ~2026-51498-76 (talk) 08:09, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-51498-76: Was the article deleted from English Wikipedia? I've tried several variations of Mikhail Alekseyevich Suslov, but I'm unable to find any record of an article about this person existing on English Wikipedia. Are you perhaps asking about an article deleted from a different language Wikipedia? Without knowing the name of the article, there's no way to see why it was deleted. Without knowing why it was deleted, there's no way to assess whether it can be restored. If it was deleted from another language Wikipedia, there's nothing anyone here can do to help you other than to advise you to seek assistance on that Wikipedia. Each of the Wikipedias are separate projects with their own policies/guidelines and their own volunteer communities applying those policies/guidelines. Finally, articles are only deleted from English Wikipedia for the reasons given in WP:DELETION, and they can only be deleted by an English Wikipedia admininstrator. So, it's very unlikely an English Wikipedia article was deleted by a detractor of Suslov for personal reasons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:20, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Yes, the article was in Russian...

Have a good day ~2026-51498-76 (talk) 09:58, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

If the article were here, the subject's permission is not required; they cannot grant or deny such permission. 331dot (talk) 10:25, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

If you want to ask about a Russian article then you should ask (in Russian) at the Russian Wikipedia, the equivalent page there is ru:Википедия:Форум/Вопросы. TSventon (talk) 10:47, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

The link was ru:Суслов, Михаил Алексеевич. If you click on it you will see a note that the article was deleted on 19 August 2026 and a link to a discussion. TSventon (talk) 10:59, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

on moving drafts

it appears i have made an oopsie

can drafts be moved to different titles mid-afc submission without causing problems? consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 21:03, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes--what is the draft in question and where do you want it moved? SomeoneDreaming (talk) 21:12, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

@Consarn are you talking about the draft I just declined? In solidarity, Dafootballguy (Want to talk?) 21:16, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

ye

should probably have moved it to a title with a disambiguator beforehand, but if it's been declined, i can probably just move it and resubmit consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 22:28, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Aren't the drafts about the same subject? In solidarity, Dafootballguy (Want to talk?) 22:30, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Draft:Archax is about a robot, Archax is about a digital asset exchange. TSventon (talk) 22:37, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

huh? what led you to think that? i don't think asset exchanges and robots are very easy to get mixed... consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 22:44, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm a little distracted at the moment and trying to balance a few things at the same time. In solidarity, Dafootballguy (Want to talk?) 22:45, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

oh, fair. i'll just try again after i'm done cooking~ consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 22:49, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Do you want me to move it for you? In solidarity, Dafootballguy (Want to talk?) 22:50, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

i can do that later, so there's no need to worry consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 22:52, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Subtitle editing

Hello. What do I need to do to be able to edit article subtitles? ~2026-48157-50 (talk) 22:19, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

What is one of the articles where it needs changing? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:24, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48157-50: What do you mean by article subtitles? Are you referring to the headings that separate sections in the body of the article? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:40, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

As an example, do you mean something like "Euphoria" within In God We Trust (Euphoria), or something like "Accolades" as a section header within that article, or something else? -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 22:47, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-48157-50. I wonder if you are referring to short descriptions?

If so, the section "How to Edit" on that page may answer your question. ColinFine (talk) 08:40, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Query re editors

Hi

Is it legitimate that someone who says they are an experienced Wikipedia editor would contact you to write a Wikipedia page about you? ~2026-51752-65 (talk) 23:49, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

No, that is a common scam. Please don't give them any money. They will almost certainly just take your money and then do nothing.

You can read the Wikipedia:Scam warning page for more information. Please feel free to reach out if you need any help or have any questions.

This is a scam, please don't give any money to them. ‑‑gurkubondinn 00:26, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-51752-65: There are some editors on here who do write on behalf of subjects, but they are obligated to declare any conflicts of interest or paid relationships. Someone who reaches out unsolicited and asks for money in exchange for creating an article should be scrutinised carefully, as more often than not it's a scam. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:26, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I think that is generous to the point of being misleading. Your "more often than not" seems likely to equal 999,999 times out of a million. It's a scam. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:55, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I would hope people would be able to tell if something is too good to be true, but alas, 'tis rare. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:43, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

That also, but implying that such an offer might have the possibility of being legitimate by saying it needs scrutiny, when in fact scrutiny is a waste of time and gives undue credit to the scammers, and when there is no potential for it to be legitimate, is probably not helpful. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 13:51, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Definition of "Etymology"

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Can someone explain it in simple English, please? Thank you! ~2026-51667-61 (talk) 01:10, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ~2026-51667-61.This help desk is really only intended to be used for asking questions about Wikipedia. You could try asking about this at Wikipedia:Reference desk. You could also take a look at the Wikipedia article Etymology or simply just Google "Etymology". -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:14, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

It's the academic study of an extinct tribe of hillbilly cannibals ~2026-51667-61 (talk) 01:15, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Plot vs Recap (movies, shows, etc)

The last few weeks or more I've noticed on articles about a movie, the plot is quite long and is filled with spoilers. Just today I was reading about the new movie _____. I should have not read more than a few lines...sure enough up pops a spoiler (death of a character). I had not stared watching the movie yet. I look at these articles for general "about" info and for the actors and characters names and possible relationships).

After watched, returned to the article here and sure enough gave up the whole show. If I had read it all it would have spoiled the whole movie for me. It did not used to be this way. I have used Wikipedia for years, ebbs and flows for movies) at the top, There are plenty of entertainment wikis for whole story recaps.

If editors insist on giving away the whole show they should put a big bold spoiler alert at the top. Better yet just a paragraph with the main plotline.

Thanks for listening. Other fan sites run into this too....a big peeve of mine. SueMac2 (talk) 02:12, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Please see WP:SPOILER.Naraht (talk) 03:00, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia is firmly committed to keeping spoilers, and spoiler warnings are deliberately prohibited by policy. If you don't want spoilers, the only solution is to stay away from the "Plot" sections. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:01, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Also, please note that this "last few weeks" change actually happened 19 years ago. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:31, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Virat Kohli six sot

~2026-51551-86 (talk) 02:21, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I am not sure what you are asking. Please clarify. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:03, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

This is presumably about Virat Kohli, but like Spiderone, I've no idea what you are asking. ColinFine (talk) 08:43, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

"Six shot", duh - I imagine it might be a bit like what Gary Sobers did back in 1968, but I'm no cricket fan... MinorProphet (talk) 15:37, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

No review for several months

Hello, back in April I made a number of changes recommended by an editor from the wikipedia-en-help channel, however there doesn't seem to be any indication yet regarding whether the submission has been accepted or rejected, or whether there are additional changes requested. I was wondering if I still need to make any changes, or whether I need to get in touch with anyone to ensure that my submission gets reviewed. Thank you so much - any and all feedback and suggestions are greatly appreciated! Aaron E. Philipp-Muller (talk) 02:47, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Is this in regards to Draft:Online Therapy Unit? If so, it doesn't look like it was ever resubmitted for review? DonIago (talk) 03:22, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I am not a qualified reviewer of articles, but it appears to me that this article would benefit greatly from a significant increase in references to mainstream public-facing journalism (if I can call it that - I think you probably know what I mean anyway). TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:38, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

(Just a note that since this article was last reviewed, the reviewer was banned from Wikipedia on other matters, so unfortunately we can't ask them about it.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:43, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

@Aaron E. Philipp-Muller: your article was declined multiple times, but you never resubmitted it, so it has not been awaiting review. If you would like another review, you'll need to hit the "Resubmit" button. You'll know it was successful when a yellow template appears saying your draft is awaiting review. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 03:59, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! I've hit the resubmit button and I'm now getting a yellow box that says "review waiting, please be patient". Hopefully it will now get reviewed! Aaron E. Philipp-Muller (talk) 05:19, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

It did, and according to the latest review, the comments from previous reviews still stand. This means that whatever you changed before resubmitting, you failed to deal with any of the main points they made.

If journalists even in Regina and Saskatoon have had nothing major to say about this program (let alone journalists in other places), there is almost certainly no point in continuing to tinker with the irrelevant parts of the draft. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 04:42, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Mi celular tiene virus altamente peligrosos que debo acer

Mi cel tiene virus altamente dañinos q Devo acer3 ~2026-51552-81 (talk) 07:41, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

This is a page for asking about Wikipedia, not about problems with phones. The best of luck with your phone, however. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 08:02, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Peter Nogly

 Courtesy link: Peter Nogly

Hi, I changed his bio, but really not correct. I couldnt not perfect made my sources, and also I couldnt change the category from living people to 2026 deaths. The new stile of page is really dificult for me. Any ideas to help. I am from Germany. Eastfrisian2 (talk) 10:57, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

This seems to have ben fixed now.

Thank you for your contribution. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:20, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

AI images policy

Hi folks. I found myself on the Margay page following links from Tilcayo. I noted some discussion of AI use for images previously uploaded to the Tilcayo page, which are now on the Margay page. Comparing these images with the other two on the Margay article, I continue to have suspicions. The contrast between the orange and white, and the perfectly straight whiskers, both seem a giveaway. I'm curious about what the process is for flagging/querying possibly-AI-generated images, it's not something I've come across before. Medievalfran (talk) 12:32, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I am a passerby, but which images are you specifically talking about? ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 13:15, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

@Medievalfran Images are hosted on Commons and the guidance there is at c:Commons:AI-generated media. Putting such images into en:Wikipedia articles should probably be discussed on the relevant article's talk page. However, see WP:AIIMAGES which suggests that use here should be very limited. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:50, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Ministry of Culture (France)

 Courtesy link: Ministry of Culture (France) Hello! Can you help me with the links (sources) in the "History" section of the article? There are no sources. Need to insert them. For translation into Russian. СтасС (talk) 15:34, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I want to create\write this article on Russian.--СтасС (talk) 16:05, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Unfortunately, we have none because the person who wrote that part of the article did not do it properly. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 17:04, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

ОК.--СтасС (talk) 17:16, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

@СтасС That article already exists in 20 languages. As you would expect, the French version has better sourcing for the history. Mike Turnbull (talk) 20:55, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Redirect help, AfD and extant draft

Hi! This is re: User_talk:Star_Mississippi#Requesting_guidance.... @BhikhariInformer‬ closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Klaudio Krasniqi as draftify only to realize Draft:Klaudio Krasniqi. Since @VampireKilla already merged the info (no issue-courtesy ping) I'd think we need to keep the redirect for attribution, but then there's R2. I wasn't sure how to proceed so told Bikhari I'd drop a note here. Appreciate any advice or handling. Thank you! Star Mississippi 18:43, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Not really sure, suppose since the content is the same could just delete the article for now and keep the current draft as is until such a time that it's ready to be restored? VampireKilla (talk) 21:30, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Standards and guidelines for video game lists

Almost all of the video game lists have different layouts and info. See List of ZX Spectrum games, List of Nintendo Entertainment System games, List of Xbox 360 games (A–L) etc. Wouldn't it be more pleasant looking and professional if they were uniform? What are the guidelines for these lists? AngelSparkles (talk) 22:25, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

The info is limited to what's been published in reliable sources; you can't add in things just because you know them.

As far as layout, they don't need to be the same, but you are definitely free to go to the Talk page of one article and say "I think this other article is laid out better, for [these reasons], and I think we should change this one to be more like it." TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:39, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for replying @TooManyFingers. In my opnion it would be a lot cleaner if they all followed the same guidelines. Like if somebody decides to make a new list for an upcoming console he's free to do whatever he wants with it? That doesn't make sense. Maybe with AI we can make then all uniform. Changing them manually will take a very long time now. AngelSparkles (talk) 18:43, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

We do not permit the use of AI to edit Wikipedia. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:03, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

This isn't something that rises to the level of needing codification in the WP:MOS. There are no deadlines, so if people agree that your proposed format is better, they can choose to redo it in the new layout. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:28, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Robert Bosch, disambiguation

We have Robert Bosch, Robert Bosch Jr., Robert A. Bosch, and Bosch (company), whose full name is Robert Bosch GmbH, so would it be better to create a disambiguation page (Robert Bosch (disambiguation))? ~2026-51931-88 (talk) 23:03, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:18, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

windward fund

The wikipedia article on the Windward Fund is absolutely incorrect and is a politicalized farce. Windward Fund. ~2026-51790-22 (talk) 01:27, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

It's only two paragraphs. What do you object to? ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 01:37, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Weird display of text using "green" template

I was typing the following text:

*{{green|Its mass fraction gravitational binding energy EB/Mc2 would then be 0.187, −18.7% (exothermic). This is not near 0.6/2 = 0.3, −30%.}} Where did 30% come from?

However, it ended up rendering as this:

• {{{1}}} Where did 30% come from?

Where is the {{{1}}} coming from and how do I make it say the actual text I put? Shocksingularity (talk) 03:14, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Shocksingularity: The problem is coming from the unescaped = you have in the template. It thinks there's a parameter called Its mass fraction gravitational binding energy EB/Mc2 would then be 0.187, −18.7% (exothermic). This is not near 0.6/2 being defined by a value of 0.3, −30%. You have to turn it into an escape character; use {{=}} where the = is. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:22, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

OH that makes sense. I thought maybe it was the equal sign but I wasn't sure what to do about it. Shocksingularity (talk) 03:26, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Shocksingularity: Another way is to explicitly number the parameter: {{green|1=Its mass fraction gravitational binding energy EB/Mc2 would then be 0.187, −18.7% (exothermic). This is not near 0.6/2 = 0.3, −30%.}} → Its mass fraction gravitational binding energy EB/Mc2 would then be 0.187, −18.7% (exothermic). This is not near 0.6/2 = 0.3, −30%. This works because once the parser has detected the first equals sign, any others are treated literally. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:04, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Swindon Mechanics' Institute & Redundant Citations

I have carried out a major update of the Swindon Mechanics' Institute article. As a result references 3 is no longer cited in the article. How do I remove it from the list of references. Mydaemonthirst (talk) 06:25, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Mydaemonthirst It is used to reference a photo caption in the history section. Is that no longer correct? To remove it just edit the caption.  Courtesy link: Swindon Mechanics' Institute. Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:02, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I've actually corrected the URL for the citation rather than removing the reference. Mydaemonthirst (talk) 11:12, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I am Dwijendra Singh

I am Dwijendra Singh, a retired CSIR-CIMAP scientist. I have a conflict of interest because the proposed biography concerns me. I have collected independent published sources about my research, including coverage in New Scientist. I would appreciate guidance from an uninvolved volunteer editor on whether these sources are sufficient for a biography and how I should proceed through Articles for Creation. Entomology53 (talk) 10:40, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Entomology53, you should be aiming to show how published reliable sources about you meet one of the criteria at WP:ACADEMIC. Choose the one that you think fits you best and then, in this thread, specify exactly three sources which would back up that notability. Then we can advise further. Please also read WP:SCAM, now you have posted here. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:45, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello

Is there a tool which I can use to quickly revert edit just from seeing (user's) edit history or is there none? Rollback doesn't work when the edit is years old or other recent edits to the pages have been made. zglph^•talk• 11:43, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi, @Zglph!

You can take a look at Wikipedia:Tools and Wikipedia:Editing tools to see which tool suits you to quickly revert edits just from seeing the page history!

Happy editing! (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 12:33, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, the above reply was not helpful to me. Can anyone with their knowledge of tools help me out with the query? zglph^•talk• 16:55, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi again, @Zglph!

Try taking a look at Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism/Tools to see which tool you can use to revert an edit just from seeing the page history!

Again, happy editing! (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 17:08, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I think they're looking for a tool that lets them revert from the user contributions page, not from the page history of an article. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 19:48, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Do I need a fresh start? Am I permitted to?

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Today I feel very shocked and upset after learning I am apparently in a bad standing here. I could go on about how painful this is to find out, I don't know what to do. I thought my editing history was good and I was working toward and had become a valuable contributor, this is really the first I've heard about anything like this. Therefore, I am at a loss at what to do. I am going to need a fresh start if I want hope at having any advanced permissions etc?

Am I in too bad a standing to get a fresh start?

Generally, what is my best cause of action?

I don't do anything, especially edit, in any sense of bad faith. I came here because I wanted help with what to do, but I also ask if there's a place you can get your standing reassessed here. Pinging @Pppery to show I'm not going over their head, just asking a question. Edlectro28 15:47, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28: with a cursory look at User:Pppery's messages and your talk page, it doesn't look as though you're in bad standing. You just need some more experience before applying to permissions. You can have a fresh start if you really want to, but I'd advise you to just get some more experience with sourcing and the like before you apply to more advanced permissions. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 15:55, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I thought I had a pretty good amount of experience for this, I regularly do recent changes and written quite a few articles, but that's a separate discussion. Do you have any idea why they cited warnings as the reason if experience was likely the issue? Good to hear though. Edlectro28 15:59, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I assume they cited warnings as a direct tie to experience, assuming that getting frequent warnings about sourcing means you need experience with sourcing (which is usually true). ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 16:04, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I've never been warned about sourcing though. Can I request for a different admin to post their opinion Edlectro28 16:07, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

It looks like they were also referring to times where your edits were reverted for lack of sourcing. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 16:16, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Understood. I wouldn't say I have a history of that at all, maybe a few examples when I had little experience, but that feels like cherry picking and ignoring all the good work I've done. Can I request someone else takes a look, is it worth it if so? Edlectro28 16:23, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you can formally request another admin to review your request, but you could just ping an admin or ask them on their talk page. You might tell User:Pppery what you've said here or wait for them to respond here first. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 16:29, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I alerted Pppery of the question I asked there on their talk page, and pinged them here. Hopefully they will respond, I'm eager to find out what I should do Edlectro28 16:31, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I don't have anything more to say on the matter, other than my reply at PERM and that the claim that I've never been warned about sourcing is false. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:31, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah I can clarify about that. I warned someone for blanking, then they warned me for that with the unsourced tag. On the link you sent you can see we managed to resolve the issue, so I don’t see what the issue is? Edlectro28 16:35, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28, one editor to another, take on what experienced editor have said about some of the errors you have made. Every single editor on Wikipedia has made an error or two over time, I certainly have. There usually isn't a problem with making mistakes as long as you don't make the same mistakes going forward.

As far as permissions are concerned (in this case Pending Changes) then concentrate on ensuring you take your time assessing edits before reverting. One thing that might help you achieve this is spending time looking at pc to see if you would make the same decision as the person who addresses the change. Would you have accepted it or denied it etc. Take your time looking at padt changes and what your decision would have been. You're welcome to ignore this suggestion of course. Hope this helps, Knitsey (talk) 16:45, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, I think it’s harsh I’m getting judged off of a couple warnings that got sorted out quickly. Edlectro28 16:47, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

It's not harsh, it is just an assessment of one tiny aspect of your editing. It isn't personal. Permissions are an extra responsibility. I didn't get rollback the first time I requested it. I 'listened' to what was suggested, edited for a couple of months then applied again. Keep editing, understand the mistakes you might make and apply again later.

Later is subjective and there is no point rushing it or putting a timescale on reapplying. Knitsey (talk) 16:54, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Knitsey? I’m going to be honest with you, I’m so hurt by all this there’s no way I can come back on work on Wikipedia. I’ve obviously done something to upset Pppery who isn’t acting rationally, and if admins are finding issues with me for the fun of it, that just invalidates Wikipedia as anything worth contributing to. Edlectro28 16:57, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28 - it's not personal. It could have been written in a nicer way but it's normal for editors to not yet meet criteria for various permissions. It's absolutely nothing worth getting upset over, though. I recommend taking a step back for a bit. qcne (talk) 17:00, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

That reply along with the pigheaded comment is indicative of you not listening to the reasons behind the permission you asked for being denied. PC is not essential to being a productive editor. It is one tiny aspect of editing. People are denied permissions every day. It isn't saying you can never have PC, it is saying work on a few things first. This is life. Knitsey (talk) 17:02, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Well it doesn’t matter. I’m clearly not wanted here. I’m probably going to die soon anyway, so might as well just stop now. Edlectro28 17:03, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I know you said you don’t have anything more to say, but please, I urge you to reconsider. Your concerns have explanations I believe get me off the hook. Edlectro28 16:43, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The issue is that I don't trust you to review others edits when so many of your own recent edits have been negatively reviewed by others. And frankly I'm not impressed by you trying to defend yourself with a false claim. I don't have anything more to say on this matter -- this will be my final comment here. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:44, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Your judgment is flawed and you’ve been very pig headed here. This is so incredibly demoralising that I cannot continue to contribute to Wikipedia. Edlectro28 16:49, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28 It's not the end of the world to be denied an advanced editing permission. Just keep editing and gaining experience until you've demonstrated that you can use the privilege productively. Advanced editing privileges aren't rewards for good behaviour, they're—as the name suggests—additional privileges (and responsibilities) which allow you to perform some additional tasks; so to earn them, you have to demonstrate that you can be trusted with those additional responsibilities and that you'll carry them out well.

You don't need a fresh start. Just take the feedback you've been given, keep editing in good faith, and eventually if you feel the need to reapply for the permission then you'll have the experience to show that you can use it well. Athanelar (talk) 17:00, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I guess I would’ve appreciated if Pppery had chosen kinder words in their reply, though I’m burdened with empathy. Clearly they aren’t Edlectro28 17:01, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

• I agree with Pperry, he's just being direct with the user. It's a different thing that it is perceived as wholly negative rather than trying to wait further and seek advanced permissions in future.zglph^•talk• 17:05, 26 September 2026 (UTC)
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Image gallery displaying above hatnotes – what?

I accessed Queen Mary University of London today from a mobile device, using the default appearance setting (Vector 2022). The particular page is probably not relevant, but I figured I'd provide it. At the very top of the article, below the title, there is a scrollable image gallery with all the pictures displayed later on in the article. I figured this was a Manual of Style/Layout error and went to correct it, but this image gallery doesn't show up in the source. Is this some new 'feature'? Is it a bug?

Thanks! —§§ LegFun §§ talk §§ 17:07, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi, @LegesFundamentales!

Try seeing Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests to check if the bug was reported. (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 17:11, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Huh, seems it's somehing the WMF people are experimenting with. I think they're calling it the carousel media viewer setting? (Based on this: .)

I'm not sure I like how it overrides the standard layout...

—§§ LegFun §§ talk §§ 17:25, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Maybe, but hopefully the bug you're experiencing will be fixed soon!

Happy editing! (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 17:28, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@LegesFundamentales: It's a deliberate feature called "Image carousel". You can disable it at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:05, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter

Oh dear, I had worried it might be. How dreadful! (In my view, at least.) Is it WMF policy to irritate editors as much as possible by overriding the agreed-upon layout? Can't they keep their corporate crap on their side of the line and leave us, the ones who actually produce the contents of Wikipedia that attracts millions of people to the site, alone?

I suppose I had better see whether there's a campaign to resist this nonsensical change underway. Meanwhile, I'll toggle this beta feature off, using the link you handily provided.

—§§ LegFun §§ talk §§ 19:23, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I thought they agreed to turn that off after an outcry a few months ago when they were beta testing it and people pointed out the problems with images being divorced from their contexts, and some unfortunate cropping on images featuring nudity. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:03, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, RFC from June, that was formally closed just a few days ago noting that it had been returned to Beta and "The WMF should provide its next update at an appropriate noticeboard. The WMF should give the community ample opportunity to run an RfC regarding the proposed launch version of the feature." ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:08, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

That last quotation could have been fair and good, but it turned out unfair and bad. All that's needed is to remove the word "version", so that the RfC becomes "whether to launch" rather than "which version". TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:52, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Adding a section

I added a section on the Sarah and Josiah Moore house where the Villisca killings occurred about every show featuring the house but I can't decide if they should go under the Villisca axe murders or not. ~2026-51931-91 (talk) 19:44, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

It seems you probably need to read Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Some (maybe all?) of your material was based on unreliable sources, and that's probably why your edits were reverted. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 21:37, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Opening paragraph for this article needs revision

Hello! I noticed that this opening paragraph is written weirdly/incorrectly, it should probably be fixed: In the Name of Blossom. Nicereddy (talk) 21:21, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

You are free to do so yourself, or you may propose the specific changes you want with a formal edit request on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 21:25, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I reverted a recent edit that made no sense. Thank you for noticing. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 21:27, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Danny Lane – obtaining wider review of sourcing and scope discussion

I have opened a sourcing and scope discussion at Talk:Danny Lane#Undisclosed paid-editing block: review of fourfold 2016 article expansion.

The editor responsible for the fourfold 2016 expansion has since been indefinitely blocked for undisclosed paid editing. An experienced editor has proposed reconstructing the article from the pre-expansion version while retaining subsequent well-sourced material, but the discussion has attracted little wider participation. I have also left a neutral notice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts.

Before starting an RfC, I would be grateful for advice on the usual next step. Is an RfC appropriate here, or is there a better venue for obtaining broader uninvolved review of a sourcing, due-weight and article-scope question of this kind?

Thanks in advance. Aequoratlas (talk) 21:47, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Do you see any good reason to not just proceed as the experienced editor suggested, omitting all the other steps you've mentioned? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:44, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

What I mean is, you don't need an RfC to cut garbage out of an article. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:46, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

My hesitation was simply the age of the overwrite and the intervening good-faith edits. Given that an editor familiar with the article has already suggested a way of preserving those, I will take it back to the article talk page rather than add another layer of process. Much appreciated. ~~~~ Aequoratlas (talk) 22:59, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Age of the inappropriate edits is certainly unimportant. Your other concern IS important, so I'm glad it's being dealt with. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 23:09, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Noted with thanks. Aequoratlas (talk) 23:20, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

User script for sentence case?

Is there any user script that would allow me to select text and automatically change its case (which would usually be to convert it from title to sentence case)? Thanks! Helpful Cat🐈 05:23, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I don't know. But I can imagine that if such a script existed and was highly reliable, it could just be applied automatically in all the places where you might want to use it ... TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:47, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

True. I don't imagine any such script would be totally reliable (it would still require manual review), but it would save some time and effort. Helpful Cat🐈 05:54, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I recently came across User:Epicgenius/capitalize, and it seems to do exactly what you're looking for. (CC: User:Epicgenius) — DVRTed (Talk) 06:22, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Amazing, thanks! Helpful Cat🐈 06:25, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I tried it and it doesn't seem to work - the links in the sidebar appear, but I click them and nothing happens. (Using the source editor in Firefox) Thanks for the recommendation, though! Helpful Cat🐈 06:44, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah! I just skimmed through the code; it won't work if you have syntax highlighting enabled (Preferences -> Editing -> Enable syntax highlighting for wikitext). (Epicgenius, if you want to add support for it, here's an example of how I did it for a similar script: special:diff/1325653048.) — DVRTed (Talk) 06:58, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for figuring that out. That helps because I can just temporarily disable syntax highlighting with the toolbar button and then the script works, without me having to go to preferences to disable it. Helpful Cat🐈 07:27, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I use a browser plug-in for this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/text-case-changer/ -- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 09:03, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, that's great too! Helpful Cat🐈 09:08, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Debagarh district

Special:Diff/1376983694

Kindly help me fix the links of Debagada district article. I couldn't be able to fix them by myself. Please help.

Thanks, Drpriyesh1 (talk) 07:46, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Maps of Infobox

Could somebody provide the link for the list of available maps for the fields: ' | map = .. ' and ' | pushpin_map = .. ' in infoboxes like 'organization' or 'venue' etc..? I am able to find a map, but it only lists one example ie of Japan: Template:Location_map+/relief
--Gpkp (talk) 08:26, 27 September 2026 (UTC)