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Reliable Source

Hello, Inexperienced editor here, I was wondering if a book by an author who experienced an event first hand (like Requiem for Battleship Yamato by Mitusri Yoshida, who has a navigator on the Yamato during her last sortie) would be considered a reliable and trustworthy source, Thanks! Panzer VI 17:01, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Hiya, you should read WP:RS (Wikipedia's guideline on how to tell if a source is reliable or not) and WP:OR (wikipedia's policy about original research). Good luck editing! Much love jiraijohnny˚₊‧꒰ა ♡ ໒꒱ ‧₊˚ (KISS ME GOOD-BYE.⋆˚꩜｡) 17:37, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Panzerkapmfwagon. You are describing a primary source, namely an account written by a participant. Secondary sources are best for such articles, such as books written later by naval historians. But primary sources can be used in limited ways, with care. The overall policy is No original research and the specific policy language can be found with the shortcut WP:PRIMARY. Cullen328 (talk) 18:11, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

That’s interesting, I get no original research but I thought first hand war accounts would be reliable, maybe not for notability but for the course of events, them being there, as opposed to someone else writing and perhaps get confused accounts, Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 18:37, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, i think it should be discussed on Wikipedia about whatever or not it is reliable, original research and notable. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 19:02, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

A single person writing about their personal experience can produce a faulty account for a number of reasons. Human memory is much less reliable than most people appreciate, and a person may even have reasons to deliberately falsify their report, to make themself or a group with which they are associated look good, or to make someone else look bad. On the other hand, reliable secondary sources will presumably do research and use multiple sources to cross-check and verify what they report. CodeTalker (talk) 21:22, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Ah yes that makes sense, I guess it depends on context and whether the account seems real or not. I suppose a book written b a veteran in 1950 would be for more reliable than one written in 2020 for example. I suppose most media would be biased, especially in the context of war (and depending on the views of the author, even if they don’t realise they are being biased), for example at school WW1 was taught in a pretty biased way, although in my view The German empire wasn’t “evil” like we were taught (unlike WW2). Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 10:23, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

A title for a page

How to change a title in an article in a sandbox? Илларионова Полина (talk) 08:42, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Илларионова Полина: you can't actually change the title as such, you instead move the page to a different title. I've already moved your sandbox draft to Draft:Tomáš Kulka. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:25, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

How to delete my draft? Илларионова Полина (talk) 09:29, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

You could "blank" it (delete its content, aside from DoubleGrazing's decline message), Илларионова Полина. This would be interpreted as a desire to delete. But I think that this would be a pity, as the draft shows promise. (NB A decline message means "Not yet, but keep trying".) Are there no reviews of Kulka's books that you could summarize? -- Hoary (talk) 10:25, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Citations

How to check if a Wikipedia citation is reliable or not? Cn you give me some guides to cite and add reliable sources as well? Phong062474 (talk) 13:24, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

For general guidance about reliable sources, see WP:RS

If you want to ask other editors about whether a particular source is reliable, you can ask at the reliable sources noticeboard. Athanelar (talk) 13:58, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

As for how to cite, see Help:How to cite and Help:Referencing for beginners. Athanelar (talk) 13:58, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Xiaomi Redmi note 13 4g

Draft:Xiaomi Redmi note 13 4g

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soo my article got declined and can anyone help with this problem I will cooperate with the article problem. ~2026-35750-4 (talk) 12:32, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Were you not just banned an hour ago? Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 12:45, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

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Notability of the Russian popularizer of science

Hello. I have some experience in another language section, but I'm not very active here, so that's why I decided to choose this forum. I created an article about the Russian science popularizer Alexander Panchin. A colleague placed a template requesting confirmation of the subject's notability using secondary sources.

It seems to me that these two links (1, 2) sufficiently cover both his work (the book) and his overall activities. The first one is written by the editorial staff of Snob magazine, a fairly large publication founded by Vladimir Yakovlev. The second is published in the journal Novy Mir, one of Russia's oldest monthly literary-artistic journals; it was written by the award-winning writer Maria Galina.

Furthermore, several of Panchin's works have been awarded prizes: the Enlightener Prize and the Belyaev Award. 1) The Enlightener Prize's importance is reflected in the direct reviews in major newspapers and magazines: 1 (Rossiyskaya Gazeta), 2 (Daily Journal, article by Galina Yuzefovich). 2) There is an article in the online Great Russian Encyclopedia about the Belyaev Award.

I believe that together, this satisfies point 4 of the WP:AUTHOR guideline: "The person's work (or works) has: <...> (c) won significant critical attention".

Panchin is frequently invited as an expert by major Russian-language publications, including Vokrug sveta (the longest running magazine in the Russian language), Forbes Russia, RBC, and BBC News Russian calls him "one of the most famous popular science bloggers on YouTube". I think this may satisfy the first point of WP:AUTHOR: "The person is regarded as an important figure".

I am asking for assistance in removing the template, since as the article's author, I have a conflict of interest. All the provided links are already on the page. Metra pro (talk) 23:52, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

The best place to discuss this would be on Talk:Alexander Panchin. You can WP:Ping the reviewer, Ldm1954, by putting their name in brackets like User:Example. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 01:08, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

• Yeah, thanks for the answer. We've already had a conversation on that page (actually, my post is a summary from there), but we still haven't reached a consensus. I understand that this is a ton of text in an unfamiliar language, perhaps someone will be interested in this topic. This may not be the best place to bring my issue to attention, but I saw that there were responses from experienced editors here. Metra pro (talk) 01:21, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

  Oh, my bad, I should have checked. In this case, I think it's not a bad thing to leave the tag if there's some doubt, but we'll see if someone who is more familiar with Russian-language sources can offer an opinion. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 01:42, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

I don't read/speak Russian, but I've joined the conversation on the talk page to hopefully clarify what we're looking for in an article :) Meadowlark (talk) 14:10, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

• Thanks. Replied on the talk page. :) Metra pro (talk) 15:29, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Saving edits to existing stub article without publishing until edits completed

How can I save edits to an existing very small stub article without publishing the edits until I have completed all edits intended, which will take a long time? I am under the impression that I will lose any edit to any article unless I publish the edits before closing wikipedia. I could not find an answer to my question after hours of searching, and then attempting the sandbox subpage for my account. If you also can tell me which template to use for an namespace Article that includes common categories and the sidebox summary about the individual, please do. I do not want to start as a new Draft article if possible since the page already exists. Link is C.W. Kim Reply to visual editor. Thank you. Emanresu0 (talk) 20:03, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

I think you can just put a work in progress notification and work on it, with a couple of edits, and then save, and then continue, you can do that work over multiple days, Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 20:08, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Copy the article to your sandbox (or another page in your user space) and work on it there. Copy it back when done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:09, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Ah that’s a smart idea Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 20:12, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Second that. VidanaliK (talk to me) 21:34, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Yes, we need this. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 00:24, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

@Emanresu0 The article is currently very poor and lacking in citations to show how Kim is notable in the way we require. No-one will mind if you expand it one part at a time. I suggest you work on one new source you can cite and summarise, save/publishing your work as you go. Then move on to the next source and add the information it provides. Edits to Wikipedia don't have to add everything all at once and many editors here would suggest that a stepwise approach is best. Once you have added substantial information, the article can be summarised into an associated WP:Infobox using a template such as {{infobox person}}. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:35, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

how can I see if I have permissions to approve edits??

when I first joined and started editing a few weeks ago, I had edited the Weezer page and someone needed to check it in order for it to be published, but now it just publishes without needing to be checked (I think) Weez3rforever (talk) 04:54, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello @Weez3rforever. That page has and is still under Pending Changes protection, which means that pending changes reviewers or administrators must review an edit before it is visible to those without an account. Funny thing; I'm actually listening to Weezer right now as I'm answering! toby ^(t)(c)(rw) 05:01, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

@Tarlby ah, thanks !! oh haha cool!!! I like paperface, I just heard it today but it's already my favorite by far Weez3rforever (talk) 05:10, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Specifically, if you have 10 edits and have been around for 4 days, you gain the confirmed status. This allows you to edit most pending changes protected pages without having to be reviewed by a pending changes reviewer or an admin. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) (contributions) 05:19, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

@45dogs oh alright!! how do I check that?? Weez3rforever (talk) 05:22, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

nevermind I found out Weez3rforever (talk) 05:23, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Special:UserRights/Weez3rforever for future readers of the archives. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 18:10, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Namespace Article Template

Which template is the easiest and most comprehensive for expanding an existing stub article into a full Article about an individual? Is there a way to upload typed text from a word or notepad document into a wiki article OR save my edits in wiki an exist wiki without publishing the edits until I am done? Emanresu0 (talk) 22:33, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Notepad is a good fit for Wikipedia stuff; Word is not. But the best way is to open your material in Notepad, copy it, and paste it into your sandbox, then work with it there. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:54, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

I do not see the way to upload text from Notepad app on my computer to wiki. Where or which icon is it in the wiki bar?

Also which template is most efficient for a long article? Thx. Emanresu0 (talk) 16:47, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

@Emanresu0 There is no direct icon to upload from Notepad into a developing article. Instead, you need to use the standard copy/paste mechanism (Ctrl-C and then Ctrl-V in most standard applications). The paste part is easiest in Wikipedia's source editor but should also be possible in the visual editor. I'm not sure what your question about templates refers to; perhaps you could clarify. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:24, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Many thanks. Before seeing your reply, I decided to test Notepad and Wiki sandbox, and learned that the cut and paste appoach appears to be the technique. The template inquiry is because wiki has a library of templates to structure articles and produce them more efficiently. Unfortuanately, they are not named or sorted in a way that is easy to find the basic template for an article about an individual that includes headings, images, summary text box, references already in the structure so that the author doesn't have to figure all of that structure out. Emanresu0 (talk) 18:34, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello experience editor Draft:Xiaomi Redmi note 13 4g

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hello Wikipedian! Can anyone check this Draftspaces, I don't know if any goodss. ~2026-31993-5 (talk) 03:06, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

You've already submitted it for review; an AFC reviewer will get back to you, but it may take 2–3 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 03:34, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

no like Look it and give me your opinion ~2026-31993-5 (talk) 04:27, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

It will be looked at whenever an AfC reviewer is interested. You have already submitted. You can wait. toby ^(t)(c)(rw) 04:33, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

This user appears to be a sockpuppet of banned user User:Jaredryandloneria given a similar editing area and the fact they requested a speedy deletion of a draft created by that user that they seemingly had no other reason to stumble upon. I have added this TA to WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Jaredryandloneria Athanelar (talk) 10:18, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

This is some Scooby doo type stuff going on here, so many sockpuppets being unmasked 😂 Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 10:44, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

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About image right

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I am a jockey came from Commons and a photographer. I want to know whether I can upload images that I have personally clicked on Wikimedia Commons if I have already sent or sold the same images to non-free platforms. Since the images are my own work, is it allowed to upload them on Commons even if they have been shared or sold on non-free platforms earlier? Jockey Photographer (talk) 18:10, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Jockey Photographer, and welcome to the Teahouse.

Questions about Commons requirements are better asked at commons (at C:COM:Village pump/Copyright), but my understanding is that as long as you still own the copyright (i.e. you may have sold copies, or a licence to use the images, but not the copyright itself) then you have the legal right to release them under a license such as WP:CC-BY-SA, and so you can upload them to Commons and release them under that licence.

If the images are available on sites on the web, and those sites claim their copyright (as opposed to asserting your copyright in them) then you may have a difficulty satisfying people at Commons that you do in fact own the copyright. If that is the case, I suggest you sort this out with the proprietors of those sites first. ColinFine (talk) 18:56, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

If you've sold them, you might have signed a contract saying that you give them the exclusive rights to your photos. In that case, you might not be allowed to upload them. JustARandomSquid (talk) 19:57, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

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Reviewing?

Hi folks. I created an article recently on an, in my view, notable Bengali poet, singer and composer, called Roopchand Pakshi, which as far as I'm aware, is still in the New Pages Feed and remains unreviewed. I obviously understand that reviews are random and can take upto weeks or months, and that I can't or shouldn't request/rush reviews. Keeping all that in mind, is there an approximate duration that I could wait before the article got reviewed, or is there a way to speed up the review process without disrupting the system? Would love some insight! Dissoxciate (talk) 19:48, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Dissoxciate - there is a backlog of 17,000 unreviewed new articles. it may take months, or days, or weeks - as they're reviewed in no particular order. However, the article is live on the encyclopedia and will become indexed by search engines within 90 days or when reviewed. qcne (talk) 19:53, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Wow, I haven't checked the patrol page in a while but 17,000 unreviewed articles? That's nuts. But yes, I understand. Thanks for the heads-up! Dissoxciate (talk) 19:55, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

The backlog is actually shorter than usual at the moment as we have a backlog drive. qcne (talk) 19:57, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

DissoxciateOne thing you can do is to be sure that you have demonstrated WP:Notability, because the article is likely to be draftified or nominated for deletion if not. Read through WP:Notability (in particular, WP:SIGCOV), WP:Verifiability, and WP:Reliable sources. For example: your first source, banglapedia.org is a self-published source and by definition, unreliable, so you can take that one out.

Another thing you can do: few reviewers here speak Bengali, and if you make it easier for them to review it by expanding citations to Bengali sources by adding a quotation of a key sentence or two copied from the Bengali source and translated into English directly in the citation using citation parameters |quote= and |trans-quote=, that may help. For example, like this:

{{Cite web |title=মানুষ হয়েও তাঁরা ছিলেন পাখি! পুরনো কলকাতার রূপচাঁদ পক্ষী ও তাঁর দলের কথা জানেন? |url=https://www.sangbadpratidin.in/entertainment/event/memoirs-of-famous-song-writer-and-singer-rupchad-pakkhi/ |website=[[Sangbad Pratidin]] |quote=এখানে আপনি সেই নিবন্ধের বিষয় সম্পর্কে বাংলা নিবন্ধ থেকে একটি বা দুটি মূল বাক্য উদ্ধৃত করবেন, যার ইংরেজি অনুবাদ পর্যালোচকদের ধারণা দেবে যে বাংলা উৎসটি বিষয়টি কতটা ব্যাপকভাবে কাভার করেছে। |trans-quote=(Here you would put the English translation of the Bengali quotation.) |quote-page=123}}

You could try posting a brief comment at the WP:India noticeboard, and if you are lucky, maybe someone will see it who can help. Good luck! Mathglot (talk) 20:24, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Writing an article in French. Will it be reviewed?

Hi! We started drafting an article in English about a francophone musical artist, and realized that the sources and information was better supported in French as the primary language. Will it go through the regular channels of AfC for review or should I submit elsewhere? Thank you! Arthelme (talk) 01:50, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Maybe the French Wikipedia? randomdude121    01:55, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

As stated above, the French Wikipedia would be better for this. With AfC, we cannot accept articles that are not in English. You may use non-English sources and references, but the article itself needs to be in English. • Quinn (talk) 01:59, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks @Quinntropy and @Randomdude121, that makes a lot of sense. I will submit the draft to French Wikipedia. Arthelme (talk) 14:55, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Arthelme, who is this "we" you are referring to? Is more than one person accessing the 'Arthelme' account? ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 03:59, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Anachronist, sorry if that led to suspicion! "We" is me as a main author + two university friends who are better acquainted with the topic culturally and have access to physical sources that I don't have direct access to. Arthelme (talk) 14:58, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

@Arthelme: The language of the sources is immaterial; we accept non-English, print, and non-English print sources. All that matters is if the sources have editorial oversight and discuss the subject at length. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 04:47, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

They were asking to write the English Wikipedia article in French, not if French references are OK. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:41, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Arthelme, The language of the sources is immaterial; you may write the draft in English using all French sources, or you may write it in French and submit it to French Wikipedia, or both; your choice. If you write it in English, you may submit the draft to me and I will review it. Before you do, though, please read through Help:Your first article, and go through your draft following the Help page step by step, and make sure it is compliant, as I won't review it if it is not. Write to me on my Talk page if you want to take advantage of this offer. Mathglot (talk) 06:50, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello @Mathglot, super grateful for the offer! The current draft is in French so I will roll with that. Glad to see people keen on helping! Arthelme (talk) 15:04, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Arthelme, I see that you are developing your draft at fr:Utilisateur:Arthelme/Brouillon, and the submission was just declined an hour ago by User:Matpib, for reasons that we would call here at en-wiki as failing to demonstrate the WP:Notability of the topic due to a lack of citations to reliable sources in your draft having significant coverage of the topic. But note that these links are all English Wikipedia links, and at French Wikipedia, you must comply with French Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, in particular; fr:WP:Notoriété, fr:WP:Vérifiabilité, and fr:WP:Sources fiables. The key sentence to pay attention to for you in your draft, is the first sentence at fr:WP:CGN, and the definition of Couverture significative et durable right after it (not shown):

Si un sujet a fait l'objet d'une couverture significative et durable consacrée à lui par des sources fiables et indépendantes de ce sujet, il est présumé être suffisamment notoire pour rendre possible la création d'un article ou d'une liste indépendant(e).

That is what you have not yet shown in your draft, and must show before it will be accepted. Good luck with your draft at French Wikipedia, and if it is accepted there, feel free to translate it yourself, and submit it here in English. Mathglot (talk) 19:46, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

One more thing, Arthelme: because you started here at en-wiki before your first edit at fr-wiki, your volunteer mentor is English Wikipedia user Whpq. The mentorship program by default only supports one mentor per user (although you can add more) so you won't have another mentor at French Wikipedia yet, only here. If this situation is acceptable to you, you don't have to do anything. On the other hand, if you would rather have a volunteer mentor who is more experienced and knowledgeable about French Wikipedia (not me—I am only slightly familiar with it) then you can ask for someone to "claim" you at fr-wiki, after enabling your user homepage there. You are always welcome to ask questions at the fr:Wikipédia:Forum des nouveaux, regardless who (or where) your mentor is. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 00:30, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm thirsty

Do you have some tea for me? ~2026-36161-8 (talk) 11:43, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

☕️🫖🧋🍵🧉

Here are all our teas, pick whichever is to your fancy Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 12:46, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Does the “teahouse” actually have anything to do with tea? Has tea (the drink) ever been involver or connected in any way with this place? Just curious. ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 23:58, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

No. Teahouses are often associated with socialization, so the theme gives this forum a friendly atmosphere. toby ^(t)(c)(rw) 00:03, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

^involved

which leads me to another question.. is there any way to edit comments / questions after they’ve been posted to correct, for example, spelling errors?? ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 00:03, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

The same way one would edit an article. Just try not to majorly change the message of your post after it has been read. toby ^(t)(c)(rw) 00:04, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

So others can also re-edit my comments if they wish, or is it just me which has that ability? ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 00:16, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Everyone can edit each other's comment's technically, but there is usually never a reason you should. Fixing your own comments is fine. toby ^(t)(c)(rw) 00:18, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Editing someone else's comment in an ordinary discussion is very rude; in a tense argument it's dishonest/evil.

Editing your own comment before it gets a response is totally fine. Editing it after it was responded to can be pretty confusing. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 00:34, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for that. Last question.. So if for example another person deliberately re-edited my comments with spelling errors (to make me look stupid) or change the wording (to materially change the context of what I’m saying).. I’d be able to change it back? I give these examples because both have happened to me before here on Wikipedia, many many years ago. ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 00:48, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Yep. toby ^(t)(c)(rw) 00:49, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

(Note that there's an exception: as far as I know, admins can delete or change any comment if it violates a rule.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:20, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you.. just to clarify the incidences i was referring to was when I was kid writing on Vikidia as part of a school thing. My contributions were fine but someone vandalised my edits and comments. I’m as certain as I can be it wasn’t an admin. ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 01:28, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Understood - I knew already that you were telling the truth and that you knew what you were saying. I just don't want people to later flip out on an admin who's only doing their job. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 02:04, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Help with resubmitting declined draft

Hello, Teahouse!

My article Draft:Amaruk Kayshapanta was previously declined at Articles for Creation because it showed signs of having been generated by a large language model. I have now revised the draft.

I would greatly appreciate any guidance or feedback to ensure the draft meets Wikipedia’s standards before I resubmit it.

Thank you very much for your time and help! Ethnolad (talk) 17:22, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Ethnolad, and welcome to the Teahouse.

What you are asking for is a review! Please resubmit your draft to get that review. ColinFine (talk) 18:48, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. I have resubmitted the draft after revising it. Ethnolad (talk) 23:27, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Could you please advise whether I should remove

{{AFC submission|d|ai|u=Ethnolad|ns=118|decliner=Pythoncoder|declinets=20260115033324|ts=20251220155908}}

and keep only

{{AfC submission|||ts=20260117232421|u=Ethnolad|ns=118}}? Ethnolad (talk) 00:09, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Anything that was not put there by you, you're not allowed to remove it. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 02:10, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

About Creating an Article

Well, I am not exactly a new user, but I would like to have some opinions about creating a certain article. I am planning to make an article on a certain family. Three of the family members have their own Wikipedia pages and two have redirect pages and six others are mentioned. The family on the whole is extremely influential. Also, some members are kind of notable but not that notable, so I was thinking to include them in the family page.

• Hasan M. Elahi
• K. Maudood Elahi
• K. Mukhtar Elahi

TrueMoriarty Talk | Contribs 16:45, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

@TrueMoriarty The challenging part is demonstrating that the family is notable. You need to have sources that discuss the family as a whole in some detail; notability is not inherited from the notability of individual family members. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 17:20, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm only emphasizing something Helpful Raccoon already said: Wikipedia will only publish a whole-family article if reliable independent sources have already published whole-family articles that are significant. Wikipedia won't accept something that's put together from sources where they're discussed individually. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:54, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Now the thing is that this family has a book written about them. Also in multiple websites they are mentioned that they are 'notable for their academic and philanthropic activities'. In a lot of newspapers also I found mentions about them and their activities. Also I found out that 2 or 3 times the family members murdered another family member. One murder amongst them created a huge wave all over the country as the judge was bribed with 30000000 takas (according to some websites and newspapers). The family is also notable for being amazingly rich and philanthropic and also for a few other things

But are they notable for Wikipedia?

TrueMoriarty Talk | Contribs 05:42, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

It's hard for anyone to tell without seeing the sources. A book written about them is a good sign, assuming the author is unaffiliated with the family and it is reputably published. If you want a second opinion you can always submit a draft through articles for creation (although drafts often take a while to get reviewed). Helpful Raccoon (talk) 06:25, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I think I will try that.

TrueMoriarty Talk | Contribs 06:27, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Example: If they paid for a book to be written about them, or if one of their companies or their friends' companies published it, the book would count for almost nothing on Wikipedia. But if the book is from someone who has no connection with them, it matters a lot more. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 08:08, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

A problem I noticed that K. Mukhtar Elahi's page in English and Bangla Wikipedia are not connected. Could you please suggest me how to fix it?

TrueMoriarty Talk | Contribs 12:33, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

That is an issue with Wikidata, which I am not too familiar with. There are two Wikidata items wikidata:Q137644969 and wikidata:Q118216704, one associated with each article, that need to be merged together by following the instructions at wikidata:Help:Merge. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:24, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

edit request for semi-protected article

Question about Talk Page edit request for semi-protected article (Legacy Section)

Hi everyone, I’m a newer editor and I’ve submitted an edit request on the Talk Page of a semi-protected article. The request proposes adding one sentence to the Legacy section referencing the HONR Network, using multiple independent secondary sources (CBS News, NBC News, NPR/Dutton). An editor replied noting that the Legacy section already lists several organizations, and I want to ensure the proposed addition is neutral, appropriately weighted, and policy-compliant rather than promotional. Would appreciate guidance on whether the framing and sourcing of the request is appropriate, or if it should be adjusted to avoid undue emphasis. Thank you. Boluwatifemoses (talk) 02:07, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

You need to say which article, or it's hard to help. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 02:12, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Article: Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting

I’ve posted a proposed addition on the article’s Talk Page because the page is semi-protected and I’m not yet autoconfirmed. The request concerns adding a sourced sentence to the Legacy section about an organization formed by a victim’s parent, with coverage from CBS News, NBC News, and books reviewed by NPR.

An editor responded that mentioning one group may require mentioning others for balance. I’d appreciate guidance on whether the proposed addition is appropriate as written, or how it should be framed to comply with neutrality and due weight. Boluwatifemoses (talk) 02:24, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

I think that kind of guidance is already what you're going to get on the talk page. However, I think it's important to be aware of how balance is expected to work on Wikipedia, as described at WP:BALANCE - and continue reading as it also talks about false balance, where it's pointed out that not all stories really have two sides, and that there are times when people want to add bogus opposition to something just to make an article look "balanced". TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:45, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Mandruss removed my message on Talk:Donald Trump

I was simply responding to Malikindahood07 and Mandruss removed my message, the message said "Well... Half of americans are Trump supporters, and Wikipedia follows others (reliable sources and other stuff) rather than having its own opinion about it, therefore as Mandruss said, establish a consensus.", I didn't said anything bad, yet Mandruss removed it. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 16:27, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Also, for additional context, i responded to Malikindahood07's message "It is time to qualify trump as a far-right politician, calls human immigrants animals, said why won't we get some people from Denmark or Norway, banned 75 non-European countries from applying for an immigrant visa. Trumpism is far-right. Not to mention his other policies or comments.", and i responded with "Well... Half of americans are Trump supporters, and Wikipedia follows others (reliable sources and other stuff) rather than having its own opinion about it, therefore as Mandruss said, establish a consensus.", Mandruss had also responded to Malikindahood07's message, saying "Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before creating an edit request. -- Response per consensus 74. Eligible for manual archival after this time tomorrow.". ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 16:29, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Have you considered talking to Mandruss first? —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:37, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Politics in the US post 1996 have an active arbitration remedy, that information should be in a banner at the top of the page. Except for making an edit request, users who don’t meet the required permissions should not engage in conversations on the talk page. See Contentious Topic procedures. Mitchsavl (talk) 04:32, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

@Mitchsavl: AP2 does not have a blanket 500/30 rule, and the talk page is not protected. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 04:36, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Broken tournament brackets

Hi, I'm looking at some pages I edited about FIRST Robotics Competition games. Last May I added a tournament bracket at Reefscape#Einstein Tournament Bracket, based off the previous year's bracket at Crescendo (FIRST)#Divisional Playoff. The content hasn't been edited since then, but the brackets on both pages now appear blank. Could someone help me get this fixed? Allegorically (talk) 05:07, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Very near the top of the Crescendo bracket, a line beginning with RD5 has a pipe at the beginning AND another at the end. Does removing that ending pipe fix it? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:12, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

It does, I don't know how I didn't spot that. Thanks.

I wonder what changed, I swear it displayed right before. Allegorically (talk) 05:17, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

If it hadn't worked back then, yes you certainly would have noticed. I have no clue what might have changed. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:22, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Wanting to learn

Hello,

I'm new to this and want to learn all I can about how this works and all the good stuff. I might be a little slow but I want to learn.

Thank you Jonilovelace (talk) 08:57, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello and welcome. I'm going to place some introductory information on your user talk page, that should provide some good starting points. It's probably good to start with the new user tutorial. 331dot (talk) 09:26, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

uhh umm uhh

i had asked someone else but I got confused uhh how do I make my signature all cool and colorful and whatever | there's just one thing her wedding ring, or anything she left behind, forgot to pack how the hell is she gonna get it back? PAPERFAAACCCEEE!!!!!!!!! -reach out a hand (hold on to hers) 05:50, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Signature tutorial Versions111 (talk • contribs) 06:27, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

your signature now is much too long with these song lyrics. Osa Akwamarynowa (talk) 06:51, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Do you mean "reach out a hand (hold on to hers)"? There are much longer signatures on this page, and nobody says anything about those. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 07:24, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

TooManyFingers, I'm pretty sure the entire signature is everything past the |, not just the linked part. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) (contributions) 07:26, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

I don't understand how that works, but if it's true, then OK yes it's way WAY too long. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 07:37, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

I would assume so since several of their other comments include it. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) (contributions) 07:41, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Oh good, I thought I was going nuts reading that message, now it makes slightly more sense 😂 Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 10:41, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

no it's everything past the |, I don't know how to make it like colorful (the actual links I mean) | there's just one thing her wedding ring, or anything she left behind, forgot to pack how the hell is she gonna get it back? PAPERFAAACCCEEE!!!!!!!!! -reach out a hand (hold on to hers) 18:59, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

@Osa Akwamarynowa i'll try that, thanks | there's just one thing her wedding ring, or anything she left behind, forgot to pack how the hell is she gonna get it back? PAPERFAAACCCEEE!!!!!!!!! -reach out a hand (hold on to hers) 19:00, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

replied to the wrong person. sorry I'm a little tired, I meant @Versions111 | there's just one thing her wedding ring, or anything she left behind, forgot to pack how the hell is she gonna get it back? PAPERFAAACCCEEE!!!!!!!!! -reach out a hand (hold on to hers) 19:01, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

use html codes. Try span.

TrueMoriarty Talk | Contribs 12:40, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

@TrueMoriarty what's span?? | there's just one thing her wedding ring, or anything she left behind, forgot to pack how the hell is she gonna get it back? PAPERFAAACCCEEE!!!!!!!!! -reach out a hand (hold on to hers) 19:00, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

I think it worked -reach out a hand (hold on to hers) 19:18, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

good job. Very nice

TrueMoriarty Talk | Contribs 09:49, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

what would've happened if the republic of Texas was never annexed?

i allways wondered, what would have happened if texas never got annexed by the USA? will it still be here, or be annexed by mexico again? ~2026-37188-2 (talk) 19:13, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

This is not a question for Wikipedia, @~2026-37188-2- this page is only for questions on how to edit Wikipedia. Try asking on Reddit. qcne (talk) 19:16, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Accepting that Wikipedia is as an inappropriate place to ask speculative questions, and that this is an inappropriate page on which to ask general factual questions, ~2026-37188-2 might find some material of interest in the fictional Southern Victory series by the historically knowledgeable Harry Turtledove. Strictly, the question falls into the 'Alternate history' or 'Counterfactual history' categories often subsumed within Science fiction. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2025-31359-08 (talk) 12:03, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

How to cluster source

Do any of you know a solution to cluster a bunch of references of the different pages of the same book, like the three references in the history section of Cius? I can't really unite them because each pages backed up different stuffs in the cited sentence and I can't really put the citation within the sentence.

- MahmoudAbbasAlDilfti (talk) 04:45, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Why do you say you can't put citations within a sentence? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:01, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Probably because of the same reason why overlink is avoided, to make the page neat and easy to navigate. MahmoudAbbasAlDilfti (talk) 05:14, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Those examples are not really very similar. And overlinking is not avoided for neatness, it's to keep useless information out of the way. Your citations are useful. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:19, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

You could try this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:10, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the help!

- MahmoudAbbasAlDilfti (talk) 14:18, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Deleting or?

While helping with cleanup, I’ve been coming across stubs and very thin articles. They don’t appear to qualify for speedy deletion (e.g., vandalism), but I’m wondering whether AfD is the appropriate next step, or if there’s an intermediate process.

Before spending time expanding or cleaning up an article, I’m trying to determine whether that effort would be worthwhile. For context, this is an example of what I’m looking at: Jasper Kim

Most of the references are either self-published (linked in) or the subject is the author of the article. Thank you. Coffeeurbanite (talk) 20:58, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

I would suggest a proposed deletion for these sorts of articles. GarethBaloney (talk) 21:06, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. Coffeeurbanite (talk) 21:14, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

The deletion process is basically a 3-step flowchart.

1. Does the article meet any of the criteria for speedy deletion? If so, put the appropriate tag on the article and move on.
2. If not, would deletion of the article be uncontroversial? E.g., the article has no or no good sources, you are not able to find any and you doubt anyone else could either, or would care very much if the article was deleted. If so, then WP:PROD and move on. Be sure to use Twinkle, as it will automatically alert you if an article has been PRODded before (since an article can't be PRODded more than once)
3. If all else fails, open an AfD to get consensus.

Athanelar (talk) 10:42, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Before those three, the first step should be checks and alternatives. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:18, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

thank you Coffeeurbanite (talk) 16:53, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Article based on theory?

Another question while I’m working through cleanup: this article was on the list: Muslim conquest of Persia

The first source/reference appears to present a theory about what happened, and the text in the article seems to follow that theory closely.

How should articles handle material that is presented as theory rather than established fact?

For reference, the book’s partial synopsis is below:

"Decline and Fall of the Sasanians" has already been praised as one of the most intellectually exciting books about ancient Persia to have been published for years. It proposes a convincing contemporary answer to an ages-old mystery and conundrum: why, in the seventh century CE, did the seemingly powerful and secure Sasanian empire of Persia succumb so quickly and disastrously to the all-conquering Arab armies of Islam?" Coffeeurbanite (talk) 21:26, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

You wrote: "How should articles handle material that is presented as theory rather than established fact?"

A short and roughly-true answer: They should be constantly upfront about saying the source presents this as a theory. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 23:18, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

It's also important that theories be given appropriate WP:WEIGHT in terms of the amount of attention given to them in the article. A theory which represents established scholarly consensus bears discussing at length; a WP:FRINGE theory should get a passing mention at best. Athanelar (talk) 10:38, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. Coffeeurbanite (talk) 16:54, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Mihail Chemiakin

On the page for the artist Mihail Chemiakin an editor recommended that I place a citation as my first footnote.

I am having a bit of trouble doing that but did manage to place the requested citation next to [citation needed]. I would be grateful is somebody could assign a number to this footnote and insert the citation in the appropriate spot in the references. It's been two or three years since I last worked on creating what I could for this page and I can't easily do this myself at this point.

many thanks

Alan Lamb

wiki/Mihail Chemiakin. Alan Lamb - USA (talk) 18:29, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi there Alan,

You placed the citation link directly next to the citation needed tag visible in the article prose, which is not correct. External links should never be visible in article prose. Thankfully someone came along and properly converted the link into a footnote.

Have a look at Help:Referencing for beginners for some guidance on how to properly add references if you use the source editor. The visual editor has a very convenient tool built in to automatically format web citations, too, which you can read about at Help:Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor/2 if you prefer using that editor. Athanelar (talk) 19:24, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Alan Lamb - USA. Welcome to the Teahouse.

Thank you for adding the citation. If you put the citation between <ref> and </ref>, the system will automatically generate a number, and put the actual text of the citation down in the References section.

Even better, if you use a citation template like {{cite web}} to include useful information like title, date, author, and publisher, it generates a far more useful citation. See WP:REFB for more information.

What actually happened to Mihail Chemiakin after you added your URL was that another user converted that to a properly formatted citation. Unfortunately, the user in question was then blocked, and another user came along and undid their change. However @Athanelar has now restored the citation. Please look at the code to see what they have done. ColinFine (talk) 19:25, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Why is Infobox diplomatic crisis not rendering header6

Template:Infobox diplomatic crisis

This is my first time making a new infobox template btw 💔 ///// JUMPINGISNOTACRIME (he/him) 04:36, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

The best place for this question is WP:Village pump (technical) Athanelar (talk) 10:27, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

It looks like it works. VidanaliK (talk to me) 19:41, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Article draft declined

Hi there!

Hope this is the right place to ask a question about an article draft that´s been declined.

Trying to create a page for an artist, got very good feedback for changes, then not much happening. Should I post link to the draft here?

Any assistance in getting the submission right would be greatly appreciated! ComputerSaysYAY (talk) 14:06, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi, I assume you're talking about Draft:Pekka Stokke?

Have you read the comments left on your draft by the reviewers? I'm not talking about the rejection reason (the big red box at the top), but the comments that are right below them. The give a pretty good explanation for the rejection of your draft: the article currently doesn't seem to pass Wikipedia:Notability (people) guidelines. 🍅 fx (talk) 19:28, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Hey @ComputerSaysYAY!

I looked at the draft and the rejection reason (it reads like a resume, not an encyclopedia article).

Generally, the structure of a Wikipedia article for a person goes something like this:

Biography

Career (their main milestones in their career, chronologically)

Personal life

Most of what you are putting is their art style, which would be best under its own section near the bottom of the raticle. Notable works is also fine, that can all be put under career. The main idea is you also need biographical information. You found a bunch of good Reliable Sources there, so you're already halfway to a good article. Happy editing! VidanaliK (talk to me) 19:48, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Why dont more editors use Wikipedia:Articles in many other languages but not on English Wikipedia?

So I have been translating and creating new articles via Wikipedia:Articles in many other languages but not on English Wikipedia but it seems that I am the only one who's using this list. Why dont other editors use it? it could help out a-lot. Someone667 (talk) 08:19, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for sharing this! I created a (worse) version for my engineering class last semester to do the exact same thing! I think the issue is that it is not listed at the New Page tab GGOTCC 08:23, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

would you like to share us this? maybe I could help. Someone667 (talk) 20:24, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

The presence of an article on another Wikipedia, even on many other Wikipedias, is not evidence it ought to exist here, as the warning for new editors says at the top of that page. English Wikipedia has the strictest standards for sources and notability, and many things considered notable on other Wikipedias (like the Henry Stickmin collection) are not considered so here. Athanelar (talk) 10:26, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

And sometimes things are on other-language Wikipedias because people put them there after they got deleted off enwiki and they haven't been removed yet. Remember, Wikipedia is a work in progress. Just because something is on Wikipedia, doesn't mean it should be. DS (talk) 15:43, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

I understand the point about notability and stricter standards on English Wikipedia, and I agree that presence on other Wikipedias is not proof of inclusion here. That said, I don’t think that makes the list itself any less useful. In practice, many high-quality enwiki articles have originated from other-language Wikipedias once sourcing and coverage were properly evaluated. The list isn’t about bypassing policy, but about improving editor awareness and workflow efficiency by surfacing topics that may otherwise be overlooked. Dismissing it outright risks losing potentially notable subjects simply due to discoverability gaps rather than policy failure.

Someone667 (talk) 21:34, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

How to become a good Wikipedia Contributor?

Can anyone guide me properly?

Dedicated Volunteer PAK (talk) 20:33, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Another volunteer has already left some good links on your talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:35, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

You could also try the Wikipedia Adventure. It's a good guide and you don't have to worry if you make mistakes since none of it is in real Wiki articles. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 21:59, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

how many of you guys are going to wikipedia's 25th birthday celebration ?!

I'm going!! I'm really looking forward to it, I can't lie -Weez3forever (ttm!)-(contribs) (check them out! Weezer) 22:06, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

When and where is it ?

And would there be people who are blocked and interaction bans ? (Just Joking btw) ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 22:14, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-19602-0 I believe it's in the San Francisco Public Library, at least for the Bay Area. -Weez3forever (ttm!)-(contribs) (check them out! Weezer) 23:09, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

That’s well out of my price & travel range. Maybe I can attend virtually… ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 23:13, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-19602-0 I think I might have seen something else about it being in NYC or somewhere else as well. Don't take my word for it though -Weez3forever (ttm!)-(contribs) (check them out! Weezer) 23:57, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you.. anywhere outside of London and metropolitan green belt wouldn’t be possible for me. Is it just a US event? Probably I’ll have to check it out if it gets broadcasts online. ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 00:09, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Other encyclopedias as reliable sources?

The newcomer task recommender sent me to Anarcho-capitalism and I'm wondering if it would be appropriate to use other academic encyclopedia's as a source. I can't tell per WP:RS. Specifically I'm thinking about the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy . Would that fall under WP:SCHOLARSHIP? ScrubbedFalcon (talk) 16:39, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Yes, it's fine. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:49, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

ScrubbedFalcon, other genuine encyclopedias are tertiary sources which are acceptable as references for certain purposes. You can find the applicable policy language at WP:TERTIARY. Cullen328 (talk) 18:08, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy is notable enough to have its own Wikipedia article, from which I just learned, "Each entry is written and maintained by an expert in the field, including professors from many academic institutions worldwide." So not only is this a tertiary source, but it's one that is high quality and that we can assume has hcorrect information. DMacks (talk) 00:41, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

How to deal with article tag being removed numerous times before the problem is solved?

The problem happens in Flourished Peony. Before this addition tag, I noticed there're constant addition of unreliable sources (e.g. social media user-generated, ai sources, synthesis of published material, original content etc). I remove those, but there are always addition of new ones. Since I don't have time to proofread all new added one in details again, and I do think that the viewership content of that section has excessive, unnecessary details and numbers (That part better trim down), I put a tag, hoping the article can be improved. Though the tag is kept being removed now, before the problem is solved

Any advice for me? I previously put warnings on their talk page, but that doesn't seem effective. I am unfamiliar with this situation and the possible next step. Thanks a lot EleniXDD※Talk 01:44, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@EleniXDD: in the WP:BRD sequence, the next steps anfter bold change, and revert should be discussion on the talk page. Administrators can help by protecting the page from editing by most users, and then implementing the conclusions to discussions. If only one user is problematic, they can be blocked from editing that page. Then they should ask for changes on the talk page. user:StillLearningEditing has beed around for quite a while, so autoconfirmed protection will not stop their editing the page. WP:RFPP ia a place to request protection. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:15, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, I will try to have a discussion with them in the talk page again. If that doesn't work (no response again), I will ask for an extended confirmed protection. EleniXDD※Talk 02:29, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

How do i move pages?

How do i move pages or delete my articles? - The Khan of the universe and the Hoofed animals. (talk) 03:51, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

For information about page-moves, see WP:MOVE. For informaion about page deletion, see WP:DELETE. There are lots of details because there are lots of different contexts (what page you want to move and where you want to move it; what page you want to delete and why you want to delete it). If you give some specific details, we can possibly give you better guidance about what the process is, and the likelihood that it is a reasonable action to take. DMacks (talk) 04:28, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Edit summary hyperlink

Removed unsourced content per WP:V and WP:RS

How would I make the WP policies like a hyperlink in an edit summary?

azh 02:04, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

You can do that by putting them in [[]]

e.g. WP:V , WP:RS EleniXDD※Talk 02:08, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks azh 04:52, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

strassenbahns, circa 1920, in Nurnburg or Nuremburg

I am curious about strassenbahns, circa 1920, in Nurnburg or Nuremburg. I am an American with limited language skills. ~2026-38898-7 (talk) 22:19, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi @~2026-38898-7, the reference desk might be a better place for this question. HurricaneZeta^C 22:23, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Perhaps use your preferred search engine not for "Nurnburg" or "Nuremburg", but instead for Nürnberg or Nuremberg. -- Hoary (talk) 23:51, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Some info can be found at Trams in Nuremberg- Lectonar (talk) 10:35, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Reference in IrfanView

Hey, I usually edit the German Wikipedia most of the time. But this time I made a correction in IrfanView, correcting the place where its creator lives (Lower Austria, not Vienna). However, I tried to include a reference, but it doesn't work correctly. I think that the main problem is here that I cite a source via the Internet Archive and this complicates the matter. Can someone help me to correct it? Temptos (talk) 01:26, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@Temptos did you try these parameters: <ref>{{Cite web|url=normal url|archive-url=internet archive url}}</ref> (with all the other applicable parameters)? HurricaneZeta^C 01:29, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@Temptos:I have checked, the reference format you included is correct. The cite error happens because you accidentally removed the source named <ref name="about">, which appears several time in the article. EleniXDD※Talk 01:48, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I noticed another error, you put the archived link in the url=. No worries, I have helped you correct them. EleniXDD※Talk 01:56, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you guys, I will try to do it correctly next time. Temptos (talk) 10:57, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Guidance needed on AfC notability and past deletions on article Draft:Kuppusamy Annamalai

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Hi everyone, I am seeking guidance on an Articles for Creation draft: Draft:Kuppusamy Annamalai

The subject is a former Indian Police Service officer and former Tamil Nadu state president of BJP in India. The draft currently cites multiple independent secondary sources, including The Hindu, The New Indian Express, India Today, The Week, NDTV, and others, most of which are from the last 3–5 years.

However, I understand that:

• The subject had articles deleted in the past (around 2020–2023),
• The title appears on WP:DEEPER,
• A recent Deletion review (DRV) was initiated by another editor in connection with AfC at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2026 January 18#K. Annamalai (I.P.S)

I would appreciate guidance on the following points:

• How should AfC reviewers assess current notability when substantial coverage post-dates earlier AfDs/DRVs?
• Does a past deletion or DEEPER listing automatically prevent acceptance if new independent coverage exists?
• Are national newspapers and magazines considered acceptable independent sources even if editors disagree about perceived political bias?
• Is it better to wait for an AfC reviewer, or should I seek further feedback before resubmitting?

My goal is to ensure the draft fully complies with Wikipedia policies and to understand the correct process going forward.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. TamizhanEditor (talk) 07:10, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

That deletion review discussion is still going on, isn't it?

With the kind of broad general questions you're asking, it seems like you're not familiar with Wikipedia and not familiar with Annamalai. Probably not a good topic to start out with. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 08:02, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification.

I understand that DRV is still going, and I’ll wait for that discussion to conclude before taking further steps. I posted here mainly to better understand AfC expectations and process, I acknowledge your point about timing. Appreciate the guidance. TamizhanEditor (talk) 08:28, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Teahouse Unanswered Questions

This is a weird question (considering I'm currently in the Wikipedia Teahouse), but how can I answer unanswered teahouse questions? Thanks! Ilovebread7271 (talk) 03:50, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Ilovebread7271 hello and welcome to the Teahouse! If you know the answer to a question asked at Teahouse, click the blue "Reply" next a comment's signature, type your answer in the the text field, and click the blue "Reply" button below.

For more details, see Help:Talk pages#Reply tool. —⁠andrybak (talk) 05:50, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

@Ilovebread7271 Please make sure you are deeply familiar with all of the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia before answering questions. There are many subtleties involved, and it's easy to give incorrect answers if you are not an experienced editor. Thanks. David10244 (talk) 12:49, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Help with Draft:Ström Paris — Updated with museum archival citations

Hello! I am a new editor seeking a 'notability check' for my draft: Draft:Ström Paris.

The page was previously declined, but I have since performed a major overhaul to move it away from a promotional tone and toward a historical record. I have integrated primary archival evidence from the Metropolitan Museum of Art and The Henry Ford Foundation (including specific accession numbers for items in their permanent collections).

I have also added verifiable historical context regarding the house's technical patents with the INPI and its connection to the racing driver Alfred Velghe. I have declared my Conflict of Interest as a paid editor on my user page.

Could an experienced editor please review the draft to see if it now meets the required notability threshold? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thank you! GraphLumen (talk) 14:50, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

You have already submitted the article for review. There is a notice at the top of the draft page that says "This may take 2–3 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 1,377 pending submissions waiting for review." Please be patient. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:17, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Rollback Request timeline

Hi I was just wondering how long does it normally take for rollback request to get responds? I think the oldest request now is 8 days. Just wondering, thanks! G Zhong 11:42, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Variable, but I have drawn attention to the backlog at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Requests for permissions/Rollback. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:20, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

How do I get an image changed?

I'm of the opinion that the current photo of Robert Moog is extremely poor and gives a bad first impression. there are other photos online that I think would work much better, but I can't upload them. how do I get an image changed? Arthur Deetoo (talk) 12:42, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

You're right; this is a big problem and it's precisely the work of WP:WikiPortraits. Most of the pictures that are on other Websites are owned by someone who has not given permission. Wikiportraits provide press credentials and otherwise help Wikiphotographers to go out and snap good pictures of notable people to replace bad pictures. I have contributed many thousands of my photos to Wikimedia Commons and they are scattered through thousands of Wikipedia articles but I like places more than I like people, so I don't participate in Wikiportraits. Jim.henderson (talk) 12:54, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

this... doesn't link to wiki portraits. Arthur Deetoo (talk) 13:11, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Fixed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:26, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Moog died in 2005. Good luck with that! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:21, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Using image found online has to involved copyright and in itself is can be complicated. If you're interested you can look up Wikipedia:Non-free content (simplify version)
File upload wizard G Zhong 12:56, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I don't fully understand the one article minimum. Arthur Deetoo (talk) 13:12, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

When an image is uploaded to Wikipedia it gets a page under the File: namespace. Then you can reference that filespace page to transclude the image into articles. For example if I type [[File:Information.svg|25px]] it will transclude this image:

For a non-free image to be hosted on Wikipedia it has to be actually used in an article and not just sit unused in filespace. Athanelar (talk) 13:25, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

The logic behind the one-article minimum is this: in order to retain and potentially make-available a non-free image, we have to have a pressing reason why we are obliged to use it. If we're not actually using it, there is obviously no pressing reason, so we shouldn't have it. Elemimele (talk) 13:35, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I can't do it on the wizard and I can't use the other upload thing. I don't own the copyright so what can I do? I'm just more confused. Arthur Deetoo (talk) 13:38, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Non-free content can't be used when we have an acceptable free-to-use option, as we do here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:42, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

but the one we have is horrible! Arthur Deetoo (talk) 13:48, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Unfortunately a free image being bad is not a reason to use a nonfree one.

Wikipedia's ultimate goal is to be a completely free source of information. Using nonfree content is sometimes a regrettable necessity, but free content is always preferable. Athanelar (talk) 13:55, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

That's an aesthetic judgement, but in terms of policy it is acceptable. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:55, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

aesthetic judgement!? look at it right now. it looks like a cheap horror film! Arthur Deetoo (talk) 13:58, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Yes, aesthetic judgement—as the rest of your comment confirms. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:03, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Andy is right, my apologies. Free to use image supersede non free content especially portraits of people. I think the next step is, how to obtain a free to use portrait of subject. G Zhong 14:03, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

you leave me no choice. let's see if the bob moog foundation has anything I could use. watch this space. Arthur Deetoo (talk) 14:11, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Keep in mind that if they give you an image with permission for Wikipedia to use, that's still not a free image. Free content on Wikipedia means free for everyone to use, so they'd have to release an image under a Creative Commons license for example (to my knowledge, Wikipedia typically prefers CC BY-SA 4.0) Athanelar (talk) 14:26, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

to hell with your red tape! Arthur Deetoo (talk) 14:28, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I know it can be frustrating, as i've mention copyright issue is complicated. There are reason why these policy are there. If you're new to Wiki, maybe you would want to start contribution to Wikipedia with small edits first. Get to know and familiarised with the platform policy as baseline. G Zhong 14:41, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

why? this is meant to be a source of free knowledge. why is there so much bureaucracy. Arthur Deetoo (talk) 14:46, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Because, unlike some sites on the web, we respect the applicable laws regarding copyright.

If we ignore them, we are providing not free knowledge, but plagiarised content.

If you are approaching external bodies to request the use of their media, please first see c:COM:THIRD. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:13, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

that's doublespeak! Arthur Deetoo (talk) 15:25, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't a rebel organisation here to defeat law. Copyright law, love it or hate it, exists to protect the creators of the work. If you're an author and someone makes your writing free for anyone to read, because it's great writing and the world deserves it, then that's very flattering, but it won't pay the grocery bill. Respecting copyright law isn't red tape. It's respecting people's livelihoods. Also, we are not above the law; a free resource that fails to comply with law can be shut down, and then it's no use to anyone. We are both obligated and obliged to do the right thing, even when it's annoying. Elemimele (talk) 16:53, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello

“Hello, I’m new to Wikipedia and learning how to contribute properly. I’m interested in improving articles related to education and social work.” LalitKDogra (talk) 10:19, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi @LalitKDogra, welcome to Wikipedia! I would highly recommend having a read of our policies and guidelines, an overview of which is at Wikipedia:Everything you need to know. Remember that any additions you make to an article must only be a summary of a reliable, published source - and you need to cite the additions with that source. You might be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Education where editors collaborate to improve education-related articles.

Let us know if you have any specific questions? qcne (talk) 10:23, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

@LalitKDogra Just asking, did you use AI (like ChatGPT) to help you write your question? David10244 (talk) 17:09, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Combining pages and adding sources

I'd like to improve the article Double fisherman's knot and found some academic sources and other articles to cite. I noticed that the pages for the related knots Fisherman's knot and Triple fisherman's knot are also fairly short and don't have many sources. I thought it might make sense to combine the three articles instead of mentioning the same sources in all three articles. I'm not sure if that would be contentious or an acceptable project to work on. If it would be ok, I'd also like input on the best way to go about it. Should I draft the new combined article first and then ask for help with the redirects? Is there a best practice on preserving the edit history? Would it be best to just start out with the first article and come back to the incorporation of the other two? ScrubbedFalcon (talk) 15:51, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi ScrubbedFalcon. An "article merge" is definitely a acceptable project to work on. Having a unified article about a parent topic with variants, or set of related topics, that are each themselves too small to merit their own well-formed article is common. I'm not sure how contentious it would be in this specific case, but no harm in starting a discussion to see what other editors of those pages think. One good basis for that discussion could be the draft of what you envision the merged page might be. See WP:MERGEREASON for more details, including how to tag the proposal. Or feel free to ask here:) DMacks (talk) 16:46, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for the advice. I put a draft of what I have in mind here: Draft:Fisherman's Knot Merge Page. I combined the material from the three pages, added a history section and new information/citations. I can't figure out how to combine the info boxes, maybe someone could help me with that before I go ahead with the proposal on the current pages? ScrubbedFalcon (talk) 00:05, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Given how specific and information-rich {{Infobox knot}} is, it's reasonable to consider having three separate infoboxes for the three separate variants in this more general article. Good detail to ask about in the merger discussion. DMacks (talk) 15:36, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

I opened the discussion here: Talk:Fisherman's_knot#Merge proposal and added the templates to the pages. I hope I did that right. Any input on how long the discussion should remain open? ScrubbedFalcon (talk) 16:31, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

For a low-traffic page like that, around a week is generally adequate unless a debate arises. -- Avocado (talk) 17:14, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

How to create & post a profile of someone in wikipedia.

I want to find out how to post a profile of someone in wikipedia. Please advise me. I've just opened an account today. Thanks Jaliyaadda (talk) 12:27, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello and welcome. Wikipedia does not host "profiles" that merely tell about someone. Wikipedia hosts articles that summarize what independent reliable sources choose on their own to say about people that meet our criteria for inclusion. (there are also more specific criteria for certain fields like musicians and academics). Not everyone merits a Wikipedia article, it depends on the coverage in sources.

Diving right in to creating a new article is not recommended and likely to lead to a frustrating and disappointing experience. Please see the introductory information I will place on your user talk page. I would suggest spending time editing existing articles in areas that interest you, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. Using the new user tutorial is a good idea as well.

If you nevertheless want to attempt to create a new article now, you should first gather sources and determine if the person meets the criteria, you may then write and submit a draft via the Article Wizard. 331dot (talk) 12:45, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

"Wikipedia does not host 'profiles'..."—Please see profile, which incudes the definition "A summary or collection of information, especially about a person." Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:05, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Yes, maybe 331dot's boilerplate would be better amended to say something to the effect of "Wikipedia does not host 'profiles' in the social media sense of the word" Athanelar (talk) 15:48, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Perhaps, but it would be better not to lecture people on that point when that is not what they have asked for.

Wikipedia articles about people are routinely referred to as "profiles" in the press and everyday conversation: "his Wikipedia profile"/ "her Wikipedia profile"

We even do so on Wikipedia: "his Wikipedia profile (Wikipedia)" / "her Wikipedia profile (Wikipedia)" Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:44, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

I respectfully do not think it is correct to characterize a single sentence comment as a "lecture". 331dot (talk) 17:06, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

I have lurked at the Teahouse for a long time, and it has been quite common for various experienced editors, for years, to tell new and aspiring article creators that Wikipedia does not host "profiles". That advice has generally not been supplemented with "in the social media sense". Advice here might sound terse, and that's unfortunate. It is important to let new editors know (gently) that Wikipedia holds articles about subjects and not articles for subjects, and certainly not social media type profiles, and certainly not resumes (not that that was brought up). Wording all of that may be tricky. I think @331dot was not overly harsh or incorrect. David10244 (talk) 17:21, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Yes, @Andy, that is a meaning of "profile", but you're ignoring the context. It's like if somebody were writing about salads, and said "I don't like putting fruit in my salads" and you came back saying "But you put tomatoes in, and tomatoes are fruits". In online contexts, "profile" usually means a brief summary of a person created by that person or their associates, and that is what Wikipedia does not host. ColinFine (talk) 15:50, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm not ignoring anything. WP:AGF also applies. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:37, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

In my experience many people who use the word "profile" are here to write something very different from an encyclopedia article- which is not just "a summary or collection of information". It's not a matter of assuming bad faith, it's just a matter of guidance as to what exactly we do here. 331dot (talk) 16:39, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

There is absolutely no need—especially here on the Teahouse—to falsely correct someone for using the entirely commonplace word "profile". Your reply would have been just as informative, and easier to digest, had your second sentence been omitted entirely. The key information is already in the third sentence, which is enough on its own. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:55, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Is it better to guide them now, before they start, or after, which will likely make them frustrated and angry when they are told what they are doing is incorrect? 331dot (talk) 17:01, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

The OP requires no guidance whatsoever over their choice of terminology.

As I noted above, your post without that was adequate guidance on the issue of biographies and notability. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:04, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

It's not just about terminology. It's about their approach. People write profiles differently than they write encyclopedia articles. If I had read this, I would say "oh, I didn't realize, thanks." I can't influence the rest of the world, but I can answer questions here. 331dot (talk) 17:08, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Please see above for evidence regarding the entirely reasonable and commonplace use of the word "profile" to refer to encyclopedia articles.

There is nothing in the OP's post which can be taken as an indication of an improper approach. That is where AGF applies. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:13, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

I saw it, thank you. The rest of the world is not here. I can only deal with what's in front of me.

I didn't say that they were being improper, nor do I think so. I'm trying to keep them from anger and frustration by getting out in front of a very common potential issue. 331dot (talk) 17:19, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

I would kindly encourage both of you to move this conversation to one of your talk pages if it's going to continue, because the poor OP is probably already immensely confused about why a debate has broken out underneath their entirely innocuous question. Athanelar (talk) 17:21, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Andy, when you say this, you're not taking your own relevant experience into account. When people ask a Teahouse question about "posting a profile" of someone, you personally are already reasonably sure that they don't mean "summarizing the reliable independent sources about" someone. The fact that words can mean something is not an indication that they do mean it. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 17:26, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Please don't attempt to tell me what I am thinking.

"The fact that words can mean something is not an indication that they do mean it"—precisely. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:44, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Need Help to edit a Draft Page

 Courtesy link: Draft:Indrajaal

I am writing an article/Page related to an organization which is a startup and making quite a headline. But as I am new to the wikipedia, I am not sure as I have done the right editing to the page. I have made a draft but not sure how to make citations or add the right citations. My article is on company named Indrajaal. My username is:  Invincible0024

I have submitted the draft but need your help to check what I need to change to get it approved and what mistakes i have done.

Thank You in advance. Invincible0024 (talk) 04:33, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

It looks to me like you haven't found any independent sources with significant coverage on which to base this draft. All of the material you've used is either not significant (just mentioning the company, not telling a long story of its history) or not independent (someone connected with the company participated in the source, for example if they answered interview questions or sent material for publication).

Certainly this draft will fail unless you find several sources that are both significant (telling a long involved story with many paragraphs that are all about the company) and independent (having absolutely no participation by the company or connection to it). TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:12, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Can you help me in this how to make changes and find the relevant information for the same ? Invincible0024 (talk) 05:40, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Did my previous message, about "significant" and "independent", make sense? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:54, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm having a COI concern here. (Went through the citations in draft, all pretty press release-levels of terrible. One is just a Forbes list of 300 corps in India.) 海盐沙冰 _{/ aka irisChronomia / Talk} 07:51, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

In my view, COI seems like almost an academic issue when there's no possible way the draft could be accepted anyway. But I wouldn't be surprised. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 08:08, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Invincible0024, and welcome to the Teahouse.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

If suitable independent sources (which are more than reporting the company's ordinary commercial activities) don't exist, then no article is possible, and you should not spend any more time trying.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 11:10, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@Invincible0024 Companies that are just starting out, and are not yet well-known enough to have been extensively written about in independent publications, are usually not established enough to have an article in Wikipedia. Wikipedia is often the last, not the first, place to write about a company. Readers are more interested in what notable things a company has done, and not who its founders are (or were). David10244 (talk) 17:38, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Auto-Biographic articles

Are famous people (celebrities, politicians, sports people, journalists etc) allowed to create new articles about themselves and also edit them ?

Would conflict of interest come into play? And can they cite themselves as a source of information, especially if that information was considered dubious/questionable ? ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 16:53, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

See WP:AUTO. Autobiographies are very frequently rejected as they are very difficult to write appropriately, and conflict-of-interest rules apply. We also have sourcing requirements that don't get waved away simply because someone wants to write something about themself. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 17:04, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-19602-0, and welcome to the Teahouse.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

So, no, essentially nothing that the subject knew about themselves would be relevant, except where it was documented in a wholly independent reliable source. That is why autobiography is so particularly difficult in Wikipedia, and hence strongly discouraged. ColinFine (talk) 17:26, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-19602-0 As to editing existing biographies, the advice to their subjects is at WP:ASFAQ. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:39, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Can someone pls review

Draft:Surendra_Kumar_Munni. Siddharthtanu (talk) 09:49, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Siddarthtanu Hello and welcome. You have submitted it for review and it is pending. 331dot (talk) 09:52, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Submission declined for apparent use of LLM. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:11, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Submission now rejected and nominated for speedy deletion. David10244 (talk) 17:42, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

first all male triplets in the USA

Hello, I have documents that prove my grandfather was the first all male triplets born in the USA. President McKinley named them after the Admirals in the Spanish American War. They were born June 29, 1899. Their names were Schley, Sampson and Dewey Vece. They were born in New Haven, CT. How do I add this article to Wikipedia? ~2026-41092-0 (talk) 15:15, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-41092-0, and welcome to the Teahouse, and to Wikipedia.

Thank you for wanting to contribute content to Wikipedia. However, doing so is not as easy as many people think, and we are quite choosy about what material we accept.

First to note: for a new editor unfamiliar with how Wikipedia words, writing a new article is much harder than people expect. My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia.

Secondly, A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

You would need reliably published sources that are secondary and wholly unconnected with your family, that talk in some depth about the triplets and their status as the first. Do you have such material? It's OK that it is presumably not online.

Unpublished documents such as private letters and journals will not do; nor will official documents such as birth certificates (these are primary sources).

Especially, a claim of being the first anything requires at least one source which definitely states that it is the first, published by somebody with a reputation for fact-checking. ColinFine (talk) 16:35, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

The USA has been inhabited for about 15,000 years. It is extremely unlikely that those are those first all male triplets born there. Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:11, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@Shantavira Well, technically, it wasn't the USA 15,000 years ago. North America has been inhabited for a long time, but that's not the claim. On the other hand, even within the history of the USA, it would be hard to prove that there were not any preceding examples (which may have been overlooked). David10244 (talk) 17:49, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I need help

My article: Draft:Berthe, Duchess of Rohan, was declined once again. I’m not sure what sources I can use and can’t. Apparently a moderator said the sources don’t include her and yes they do. Only two don’t mention her because, well it talks about her family (father and grandmother). Can you help and tell me which sources are verifiable and trusted? Thank you.

Landonwantstoknowthat (talk) 17:31, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

None of the sources are significant coverage of her. Mere passing mentions in geneologies etc are not enough to substantiate notability. We do not make articles about people simply because those people can be proven to have existed. Athanelar (talk) 17:44, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. I see my mistake and I can try and look for better sources that cover more of her. Thank you! :) Landonwantstoknowthat (talk) 17:50, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Question

Could anyone point me toward a guideline regarding inline citations and brackets? I often see things like (born 1971) but feel as if (born 1971) flows much better. Is there a reason editors are choosing the former option that I don't know about? aesurias (ping me in your reply, or I won't see it) (talk) 09:44, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

It's up to personal preference as far as I am aware, but some editors prefer the former if the citation is to verify the birth year as it may be ambiguous which fact the citation is supporting. Ca ^{talk to me!} 11:14, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@Aesurias: MOS:PF says, "If a footnote applies only to material within parentheses, the tags belong just before the closing parenthesis" (my emphasis). Deor (talk) 12:09, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

The reason behind the "inside-the-parentheses rule" is that putting it outside makes it look as if it applies to more of the preceding material. There are cases where that problem might not really be happening, but might as well follow the rule anyway - they all look like that. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:02, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Advice on creating a Wikipedia article for a nonprofit (COI disclosed)

Hello! I’d like guidance on creating a Wikipedia page for a nonprofit I’m affiliated with. The organization appears in several independent media sources, including Business in Vancouver, The Tyee, Vancity Business member spotlight, and Ottawa Business Journal, which describe its work in STEM education and community empowerment.

Independent coverage includes: – BCBusiness article on the nonprofit’s impact in Vancouver – The Tyee feature on its mission and activities – Vancity member spotlight – Ottawa Business Journal coverage on its expansion

Could someone advise whether this meets Wikipedia’s notability criteria and how best to proceed? Aditiupadhyaya (talk) 17:55, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

You will need to comply with WP:COI and, if you have a financial relationship with the organisation, WP:PAID. If they asked you to write this, show them WP:BOSS.

After that, you must go through the process at WP:AFC, and notability will be determined by WP:NCORP. In short: do you have three sources that meet all of the requirements outlined at WP:GOLDENRULE? What (and where, exactly, are they? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:33, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The best way to proceed, @Aditiupadhyaya, is to follow our plain and simple conflict of interest guide, especially the "Advice" subsection. Going back to the first half of your question, you haven't given us enough info to advise whether the organization meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. If you use the Article wizard after reading the guide, you can create and submit a draft, which allows the reviewer to determine notability. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 18:33, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello @Aditiupadhyaya, and welcome to the Teahouse! The general golden rule for notability is that a subject must have coverage in multiple independent reliable sources that cover the subject in significant detail. What do all of those mean in practice?

Multiple means you can't just have one-off coverage; while there is no set minimum number of sources, I personally use 3 or 4. It appears you have 4 sources which is a great start.

Independent means they have to be unaffiliated with the source and simply thought the source was interesting enough to do a piece about. Again, this looks good since they are all news sources.

Reliable is covered by a few Wikipedia policies, namely WP:RS and WP:RSP. To be reliable a source must be known for reliability and have a process by which editors fact-check. All of the ones you are looking at seem pretty reliable, so they can be used.

Significant detail means it can't just be a passing mention. There must be enough information about the subject to have an article with more than one sentence. If only one sentence can be said about the subject, it's probably not good for a Wikipedia article.

I can't verify the significant detail part, but if your organisation gets more than a passing mention in 3 or all 4 of the sources, you should be good to go. Just make sure to declare a Conflict of Interest on your user page. Happy editing! VidanaliK (talk to me) 18:33, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Wow, three editors answered at literally the exact same time. VidanaliK (talk to me) 18:35, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

The effpr shuffle strikes again! MetalBreaksAndBends (talk) 19:06, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

What's effpr? (I hope no one else is asking at the same time) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:26, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I was also going to ask! VidanaliK (talk to me) 19:30, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Reports, where several people will answer reports at the same time (I think?) win8x (talk) 19:32, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Yep, highest I've seen is 3 or 4x. MetalBreaksAndBends (talk) 19:33, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Vandals

Reverted vandal, Templated them, then they vandalized again, in a short time frame, which I reverted. Should I template them again, maybe they didn't see the template, but they didn't stop after someone before me templated them. Help? Starlet (What Now?) (My changes) 14:56, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@Starlet147 I'd be inclined to report to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. qcne (talk) 14:57, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks.

(That was surprisingly quick.)

Starlet (What Now?) (My changes) 15:03, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

They also haven't done anything since. should I still report them?Starlet (What Now?) (My changes) 15:04, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Depends if you think it's a vandalism-only account (as opposed to a new editor not familiar with our rules). If so, yes. If not, wait and see if they do further vandalism then report them. qcne (talk) 15:18, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I think they stopped editing, and now it's pointless to bring them to AIV. Starlet (What Now?) (My changes) 18:32, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Absolutely. It shows that your templating of them has actually worked. So you did a good job there! It's only ever worth taking a user to WP:AIV if they ignore and go beyond the final warnings and show they've no intention of stopping. Warning and reporting at exactly the same time just wastes adminstrators' time, so we rely on all editors to report only when it's evident they're here to cause harm. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:45, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Wi-Fi/mobile data

How comes when using mobile data on my phone I’m unable to post anything here on this website in certain locations.. whereas in some other locations I can?

I was visiting a family relative earlier and wanted to reply to someone’s message here on Wikipedia.. but it said I was indefinitely blocked from posting anything due to disruptive behaviour..yet here at home (still using mobile data) there’s no problem ? ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 21:20, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi @~2026-19602-0! What likely happened is that the IP address of your family relative was blocked, because of bad behavior or vandalism by multiple accounts sharing that address or one unregistered IP account (before we switched to temp accounts, but that's another story). As IP addresses are based off location, you would not be able to edit it at that location. ✨ΩmegaMantis✨^(they/them) ❦blather | ☞spy on me 21:23, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

(Note that this doesn't mean your relatives did anything - anyone in their general area could have been the cause.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 21:33, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Interesting. It’s a very rural area with only 3 homes so now I’m suspicious of everyone in the area of who it could be. My mind is working overtime right now. ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 21:49, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Well ranges and mobile proxies can be many people, sometimes hundreds, since they work a bit differently (I can't tell you all the specifics about it myself), so it doesn't necessarily have to be someone in your nearby locality. HurricaneZeta^C 21:55, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-19602-0 Many IP addresses, especially mobile proxies, are rangeblocked. This is because vandalism and disruption occurs often on these ranges and they are used by many users. However, in most cases you can circumvent this by creating an account, and if that's not possible you can request one. In very rare cases, the IP address will be hardblocked, which means even users with an account on that IP address will be blocked. This is usually done to prevent frequent disruptors who are long-term abusers. In such cases you can request an IP block exemption user right. HurricaneZeta^C 21:25, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for that i understand I think. I had an account here on Wikipedia a very long time ago (like 8/9 years ago) but I didn’t do anything on it. It may still be active, but I can’t even remember my username let alone the password. Also, just to say, I have never been blocked or sanctioned in anyway.

I’ll be honest I’ve always been a reader but never a contributor.. i only ever get involved in some conversations on talk pages about the content, never the articles. ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 21:44, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Well, we love our readers too, but if you're ever interested in editing, we'd love to have you. I think the Wikipedia:Wikipedia Adventure is a great place to start--that's where I started! SomeoneDreaming (talk) 21:57, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Very kind of you to say. I shall seriously consider it. ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 22:22, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Happened to me too. Rangeblocks are weird. Starlet (What Now?) (My changes) 15:07, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

They are indeed weird. But as I’ve learned necessary it seems to prevent vandalised articles. ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 21:30, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Clarification on AI-generated content concerns

Hello, Teahouse!

My Draft:Amaruk Kayshapanta was previously declined at AfC due to concerns about AI-generated content. I have since revised the article by rewriting the prose and removing generic or formulaic wording. The draft has now been resubmitted.

Could you please advise on whether any aspects of the current prose might still be interpreted as AI-generated, from a Wikipedia style perspective, so I can address them if needed?

Thank you very much for your guidance. Ethnolad (talk) 10:01, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello. Now that you have resubmitted the draft for review, the next reviewer will leave you feedback if it is not accepted. Please allow the process to play out. 331dot (talk) 10:10, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I was looking over your draft. You might want to use {{ill}} on your links to eswiki to clarify that there is no English equivalent. Other than that, your draft looks relatively decent for a first article. ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 16:54, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

✶Quxyz✶ Thank you very much for taking the time to look over my draft and for the helpful suggestion. I appreciate it greatly. I have updated the links to Spanish Wikipedia articles using the {{ill|Article title|language code}} format, as you recommended. Ethnolad (talk) 20:49, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@Ethnolad General advice: stay way clear of AI. Just don't touch it. It causes way more trouble than it solves. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 17:29, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice Cremastra — I completely agree. I initially used AI only as a language aid to help refine phrasing, as English is not my native language and the article was written for the English Wikipedia. During revisions, the scope of changes gradually expanded, which resulted in a much more substantially rewritten draft. I appreciate the reminder and will be more careful going forward. Ethnolad (talk) 21:54, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Starting an article

I have noticed that there is no article on the AIME, the American Invitational Mathematics Competition. I don't have the time to do this, and I am new to editing. Is there any way to get help with this? 1024isFun (talk) 21:40, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Nevermind I found the article on it. 1024isFun (talk) 21:48, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Courtesy link to American Invitational Mathematics Examination. This is a great teaching moment: running a couple of searches on the topic, including under alternative names, is good practice before drafting an article. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 22:10, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

A hard scrub?

I stumbled across this BLP article David Thomas Roberts and questioned just what to do. It seems at first glance as mostly promotional based on primary sources, and poorly constructed not in keeping with a good article standard for a BLP. I don't think an AfD is in order though since the BLP is mentioned in The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Music, and there is the NPR interview; but I'm not sure how to proceed with such few RS. Any advice? Obviously an article that is 85% discography needs a good hard scrub. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 23:55, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Maineartists, don't discount the possibility of an Afd—articles created that long ago (2005) not infrequently fail to meet the threshold of WP:Notability. I would start by searching for sources, and matching them against the criteria listed at WP:NMUSICIAN. Whichever way it turns out, report your findings at Talk:David Thomas Roberts. If the result appears to point to a non-notable topic, then tag the article with Template:Notability, including |topic=music. You could start an Afd if you are pretty sure it doesn't meet the criteria, or ask first at WT:Notability, just to get some feedback first if unsure. Mathglot (talk) 00:29, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Confusion about creating references

While fixing a reference, I became confused about which parameters are mandatory. In the template, the |work=| parameter is absent from the section explaining the mandatory and suggested parameters, but it is present in the list of most commonly used parameters.

How can I be sure a reference is correct when creating one? Mathlock (talk · contribs) 20:21, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Mathlock, it always helps helpers at the Teahouse to provide a link to the specific example you have in mind, otherwise only very general advice can be given. Quick answer: if you provide enough information in the citation that any reasonable person can uniquely identify the item in question, then the citation is good enough. More info can make it easier, but a bare minimum is usually {{citation|author=...|title=...|date=...|publisher=...}}. Sometimes there isn't an author, or the author is an institution, and there are other peculiarities; a link will help you get a better response. Mathglot (talk) 00:51, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Which takes precedence - "principle of minimal change" or "use xxx dates"?

If I edit an article which says "Use dmy dates", and add a reference which uses a source (e.g. a newspaper article) which is dated with an mdy date, should I use dmy for the reference, or apply the principle of minimum change, per MOS:PMC? Masato.harada (talk) 21:00, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

If you're directly quoting (using quotation marks) a date that is literally part of a sentence in the newspaper article, keep it as they printed it. Otherwise, follow dmy (or whatever the Wikipedia article says). TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:09, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

(In particular, if the newspaper prints "March 12, 1971" in a header to identify when it was printed, do change that to DMY.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:13, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Assistance/Learning on how to meet notability

Hello,

I had made a draft for the Mason Orchestral Society in Mason, Michigan, US. It is located here: Draft:Mason Orchestral Society. I got some feedback on the photos included, and I am working on getting the approvals (one picture, though the newspaper ceased to exist as of 1999).

I am a member of the viola section in the orchestra and have been a part of the group for almost 20 years. But I believe I have made a very neutral page that is informational of the group.

I am trying to figure out how to show the notability part of the orchestra. Mason is considered a small town, but it houses a lot of Ingham County, Michigan's judicial system organization. Malcolm X also went to school in Mason, Michigan, in high school.

The orchestra has had its recordings played on WKAR, which is a public AM radio station. There are a number of world and Michigan premieres of pieces from composers that have their own Wikipedia pages (and are linked). There have been 2 soloists who performed with us who have their own Wikipedia pages, as they went on to do more. The works that the orchestra has played have been those of an orchestra greater than a typical community orchestra level. I also feel that the orchestra means a lot to the city of Mason, Michigan. Is there some kind of letter I could get from the city leaders or the chamber of commerce to show that?

There are some other orchestras that I feel are of a smaller or same outreach level that have pages. Some examples include:

• Jackson Symphony Orchestra (Michigan)
• [[Kalamazoo Symphony Orchestra]
• Lansing Symphony Orchestra
• Traverse Symphony Orchestra
• West Michigan Symphony Orchestra

So yes, I want to learn how to present the notability of the orchestra properly. I looked at the documentation page Wikipedia:Notability (music). I know it mentioned our orchestra archives on the Google Drive we have does not help, even though we have documentation of the articles, programs, etc since its inception. So I may be something I can get to assist with the notability area.

I appreciate the feedback from you, volunteers.

Musicachic/Teresa Musicachic (talk) 21:06, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Musicachic. Some advice is that your draft is far too long and contains far too much minutiae. Wikipedia isn't a place to record the complete history of an organisation (if you wanted to do that, do it on the society's own website). Instead, our articles should fairly concisely summarise what reliable, secondary, published sources state about the subject.

As a rule of thumb, I'd be looking for three published sources that each meet the following criteria;

• provide significant coverage: discuss the society in detail, excluding routine coverage like event announcements, composer/soloist appointments, or financial reports and listings in databases or listicles;
• are reliable: from reputable outlets with editorial oversight;
• are independent: not connected to the society, such as pamphlets produced by the society, posters, recital adverts, the society's own website, or sponsored content.

Do any sources that meet the above three criteria exist? qcne (talk) 21:14, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

First, you made a WP:OTHERSTUFF argument, which isn't a valid thing here. The other orchestras you listed are likely not notable. Three of the articles you list are completely unsourced and are candidates for deletion due to failure to establish notability (and indeed, those three are now nominated for deletion). The existence of substandard content on Wikipedia has nothing to do with your draft, and isn't a reason to compound the problem by adding more.

If you want to find good examples, look at pages that have the "good article" tag, such as BBC Symphony Orchestra, not the ones you found.

Second, look at Wikipedia:Golden Rule. Find multiple sources that meet all the criteria (that is, each source meets all the criteria). Then, write your draft based only on what those sources say. If you do that, your draft is likely to be accepted. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 21:15, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. Musicachic (talk) 00:29, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. This helps me. Musicachic (talk) 00:31, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

In some sense, for notability, there's no learning how - editing simply can't create notability, and can't take it away either.

There is the possibility of hiding someone's notability, by citing far too many low-quality sources or writing far too many words, so avoid those.

But it's the quantity and quality of significant independent reliable coverage that counts. If there's enough of that material shown, of good enough quality, then notability is taken care of.

Drafts very rarely fail notability by having poor style, mistakes, or anything else you can learn how to fix. It's usually because the required sources just don't exist. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:02, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

If there is really a learnable notability skill, it's basically "Library Ninja", knowing how to find material other people miss. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:40, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. Musicachic (talk) 02:04, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Using AI

For my draft, i had used AI to find sources. I cross-checked with the reliable sources list thing. I also read the entire page.

Would that be okay? SomnambulantFish _talk ∫ ^contribs 02:47, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

You didn't mention how you wrote. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 02:51, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

If you personally chose every single word (except for the sources), then your chances of success are good. If AI chose some words, then delete the whole thing except the sources, fully delete all of the AI words from your own machine so you can't ever find them or look at them again, and rewrite all by yourself with no AI. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:01, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks alot! SomnambulantFish _talk ∫ ^contribs 07:32, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

Did you also investigate the AI-supplied references yourself to check that they are (a) real and (b) actually support what you are citing them for? AI frequently 'hallucinates' references; that is, it makes up something that looks like a reference, or adds a genuine item that doesn't actually contain the relevant information. It's OK to use AI to help look for possible references, but never, ever trust everything it tells you to be real and accurate. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2025-31359-08 (talk) 07:42, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

@~2025-31359-08, it’s refreshing to find messages like yours that mention one of the often overlooked legitimate and helpful uses of AI in work like ours. There are many more. But they’re often indiscriminatingly tarred with the same brush we use against AI’s questionable or dangerous uses.

Recently I’ve been noticing how often this topic is being discussed in respected news media like The New York Times, with articles drawn from the real-life world of work that show what a difference AI can make when used in an assistive role with human oversight … the more conscientious, the better, but Augnablik (talk) 19:18, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Let's assume that most Wikipedia editors are conscientious ...

That could be the opening of a standup comedy routine. Of course AI can be used for good purposes, but the overwhelming majority of the time it isn't. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:35, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

To AI, a few other things could be added in that comedy routine, TMF — things that have similarly received their share of demands to outlaw. At least initially, when they were invented.

For example, the Internet. I once met someone in person who strongly wished that would happen!

Then there was the calculator, that stirred up quite a commotion when it was invented, especially in the educational world. Why? Because people would lose their math skills and become overly dependent on machines!

Going back a little further, the dawn of electricity brought fear that it wasn’t natural and could lead to serious health issues.

Yes, TMF, I’m sure quite a comedy routine could be created if we keep going … Augnablik (talk) 07:42, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

I understand that looking at the proportions of how AI is being used can paint a bleak picture. However, I don't think it means we shouldn't use it altogether, I think we should educate ourselves on how to use it correctly.

If planes were sold to the mass public when they were invented, I'm pretty sure there'd be a similar situation to what we have now with AI: a lot of accidents or even nefarious actions that draw more attention than the correct applications of the creation itself Dinis12481 (talk) 15:41, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, Dinis12481, for a nice short and supportive version of the point I was trying to make in my hopefully gentle if slightly sarcastic attempt at humor in the message above yours.

I’ve been amazed at the furor stirred up in Wikipedia discussions — almost automatically, like a Pavlovian response — in which AI was addressed in anything but outright condemnation. Even when it was clear the message poster was not saying AI could be used indiscriminately, charges of heresy were implied and visions of bonfires being readied. Augnablik (talk) 04:33, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

They get a lot of pushback from people because the people that try to use it for good purposes aren't the kind of people with enough wikipedia experience to have proper judgement. It's kinda like machine translation, iirc we limit that to extended confirmed users because it can be really useful if used with proper oversight mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 18:08, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

To the temporary account, I in fact did read the entire source. SomnambulantLobster (talk) 12:17, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Oh, i'm SomnambulantFish's alt account, btw.

(I promise i'm not a sock) SomnambulantLobster (talk) 12:18, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

AI is a scam. ~2026-36303-7 (talk) 18:09, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

GAN

WP:GAN

Can just anyone review an article? Do I need a special permission like AfC? I'd love to help out with the backlog but I'm not sure if I can just do it. akidfrombethany!(_talk|^contribs) 21:31, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Yes, I'd like to know as well. Coffeeurbanite (talk) 21:34, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello @akidfrombethany. Anyone can review a GAN, assuming you're capable of the task! Instructions are located at WP:GAI. toby ^(t)(c)(rw) 21:45, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

If you feel confident doing so, please do read up on the instructions and review some articles. GAN is always severely backlogged, and there's a review drive in February if you need an excuse to get into it! JustARandomSquid (talk) 23:55, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

For the temp accounts lurking here, the only technical restriction I know of is that you have to be autoconfirmed to review nominations. It has been restricted by the title blacklist, specifically with the following line: .*\/GA[0-9] <autoconfirmed> # Good articles should be reviewed by experienced users, not TAs or new users. OutsideNormality (talk) 05:43, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Religion and health to be expanded to religion, spirituality, and health

 Courtesy link: Religion and health

Hi, I think it's sort of problematic for the religion and health page to assume that religion is the same as spirituality and I think it's important to make a stronger differentiation on the page to separate the two concepts. The reason for this is that there's increasingly a body of people who consider themselves spiritual but not religious and there's constantly acts that we as humans do that would come across as mimicking religious practices that are not spiritual. While there is overlap between the two ideas, I think the page is outdated in its lumping of the two concept into one.

Anyways, I'm writing this post because I'm still very new to wikipedia and I just want to get some confirmation that it's ok to start trying to make edits to the page in this direction. Also maybe some pointers on small things I could start with. Pandamath (talk) 05:28, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

It is not a good idea to start editing without WP:RS, i.e., reliable sources. First find these sources and then edit. What you (or anyone else for that matter) believe is irrelevant in WP. We are not here to write what we believe whether in The Old Gods and the New, if get the meaning, but what exists in reliable sources, typically peer-review academic sources. A.Cython(talk) 05:37, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Ok, understand, thanks! So I'll start by going through my sources and then finding where the information fits in the page. Pandamath (talk) 05:44, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Best way to proceed with perplexing dispute

Hi,

I am engaged in a dispute which can be viewed here. To sum up:

• I made an edit to the Assassination of Charlie Kirk article, which adds a link to the last words article where the phrase appears in the article.
• The edit was reverted by an editor (@Mikewem) who claimed that the link was MOS:EASTEREGG
• Continuing in the talk thread (as linked above), Mikewem makes a variety of claims that are difficult to summarize, in opposition to the edit. Mikewem has stated that their opposition stems from a previous edit I made to the article.

Per WP:SNOW, I do not believe the editor's claims have basically any merit and would not "stand a snowball's chance in hell" of being accepted as consensus by other editors. I believe that I have a very strong case for this edit, especially since WP:RS have used the phrase "last words" to describe Charlie Kirk's last statement, and I believe it is a trivial, inconsequential, and uncontroversial matter to link last words to the last words article. Yet I understand that it would be edit warring to push my edit when it was reverted/is in dispute. It's difficult to come to some kind of compromise when the issue is small and trivial (again, the issue is whether a phrase in the article should be linked to its WP article), and from my perspective, Mikewem's arguments in opposition are baseless and somewhat incoherent. At the same time, Mikewem recently claimed to not want to engage in dispute resolution over this. One possible compromise I can think of is to link to the list of last words article (Charlie Kirk's last words are mentioned in the list), instead of linking to the last words article, but I am hesitant to propose this because it seems ridiculous that the last words article itself cannot just be linked at its appropriate location in the article.

It seems some options I have include starting an RfC or starting a thread at the Dispute Resolution board (even though Mikewem stated they do not want to engage in dispute resolution). What would be the best course of action to proceed with this perplexing dispute? Wikipedious1 (talk) 22:11, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedious1, Rfcs are very costly in terms of Wikipedia's most precious resource, editor time. (They typically run a month and involve many editors, followed by an independent evaluation by an uninvolved closer.) To start an Rfc without exhausting every possible means of dispute resolution just for linking or not linking two words seems like a monumental waste of resources to me. Please try everything else first. Note that you can pursue dispute resolution regardless whether or not the other editor agrees. If you gain WP:CONSENSUS for your view from third-party editors, then you are done.

The Assassination of Charlie Kirk article has many watchers; they may jump in on the Talk page. If they don't, you can follow WP:APPNOTE and place a neutrally worded feedback request at the one or more of the eight WikiProjects it belongs to. You can find them on the Talk page, a bit hidden: Click 'Other talk page banners'/show, and then click 'This article is rated B-class...'/show, and you will see the list of WikiProjects where you can request feedback. Mathglot (talk) 00:14, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@Wikipedious1: MOS:EASTEREGG is about piped links. The revert didn't claim that your link was EASTEREGG. The editor considered changing your [[last words]] to [[List of last words|last words]] which would have changed the link target from last words to List of last words while still displaying "last words". They thought this hypothetical change would be EASTEREGG so they didn't do it. They didn't think a link to last words was suitable either so they chose to just remove the link. I'm not judging whether either of the articles should be linked but merely explaining the meaning of the edit summary. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:55, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@Wikipedious1 MOS:LINK gives guidance on what should or should not be linked. That says that links should be likely to aid a reader's understanding. In the context of an assassination, I don't think that readers will be in any doubt what someone's "last words" refers to and hence there is no need to link them. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:22, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

About IP Exemption

Hello everyone, I edit Wikipedia from an IP address that changes frequently, and sometimes my edits are affected because of this. I would like to understand: What is IP exemption (IPBE)? Who is eligible for it? where and how can I apply for IP exemption? What kind of editing history or trust is expected before applying? ~2026-43024-1 (talk) 13:32, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-43024-1 Creating an account is fast, easy, and free of charge. Although you are not required to create an account in order to read, edit, or contribute to Wikipedia, registering and using an account provides various benefits. Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:03, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

ok thanks ~2026-43024-1 (talk) 14:06, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-43024-1 WP:IPBE is a user right. Blocks of IP address ranges usually only affect logged out users, but sometimes they are set to affect logged in users as well. In these cases, you can request IPBE by posting an unblock request on your talk page or going through WP:UTRS. You are currently on a temporary account - creating an account has many benefits including the ability to get IPBE and bypass most other IP range blocks. HurricaneZeta^C 14:13, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Thankss you to also and why does my temporary IP-based account keep changing? Why doesn’t it stay the same? ~2026-42863-7 (talk) 15:00, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

It is based on your browser cookies, which means that when they change you get a new account as well. This doesn't happen when you have a registered account. HurricaneZeta^C 15:06, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Need a wiki page to instruct AI on the regional use of a word

Google Ads, in particular, has no comprehension on the regional use of a word that describes our product. Google Ads (& search) gives bad recommendations and we're probably wasting money (our competitors too). One of the ways to make it more accurate is to have a wiki page, but there are no non-commercial pages that I can use as citations. Do I just list a few of the companies? Itamer (talk) 04:26, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

No. Frankly, this is not what Wikipedia is for. Wikipedia does not care about your product, and should not be used for search engine optimization. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 04:29, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Writ Keeper, gets it right, Itamer. And if this sounds heartless, remember that Wikipedia also doesn't care about your competitors' products. -- Hoary (talk) 07:36, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

While Writ Keeper is right that we don't care about your motivation, you are actually talking about a neutrally-written and cited draft, Draft:Sleepout (New Zealand).

The topic is probably one on which we should have an article, but may be what we refer to as WP:TOOSOON; it will be suitable for publication only when there is the kind of significant coverage which, as you acknowledge, is currently not yet available.

Meanwhile, I have created sleepout (Q137827940) on Wikidata; and we already have wikt:sleepout. The sources I have used on the former may be useful to you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:07, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

You might also cite news reports like , and . Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:18, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

An article to be revisited?

From the random article selector, I landed on this article about a factory that manufactured weapons for the Greek revolution. I started adding wikilinks, but when I tried to link to the town or area names in the "Overview" block, no article was available on Wikipedia. I thought, "OK, that's normal, it's probably just a small town". I then thought of looking up the town and area on Google to see if it had an alternate name or something like that. No results came up, except for the very article I was editing. I then visited the external links, both of which are written in Greek, and after using my browser's built-in translation, this one article is basically a carbon copy of the Wiki page. I'm not a very experienced editor, so I wanted to bring this issue to the Teahouse, because this seems very strange. Thanks!

A note: the edit history shows that the article was submitted, and then recategorized as a draft by another user, and then finally resubmitted. Paolo Roland Self (talk) 04:12, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

I am not a Greek speaker, nor do I have experience with the broad subject of the article. As such, the following is only general advice.

It seems there are several ways of transliterating Greek into English. My browser's built-in translation tool for the blog post you link transliterates Τσουρνάτ as both "Turnaut" and "Tsurnait" at different places. I have found searching in the original language often yields more meaningful results than searching a transliteration, especially for languages where machine translation is not the best.

Additionally, if you find there is no English Wikipedia article for a subject, but one exists in another language, you can use {{ill}} to link to that language's version of the article. In this case, perhaps the Greek Wikipedia has more information on a particular subject that may be of interest to a Greek-speaking reader.

Another editor has nominated the article for deletion, which you can view from the banner on the article and comment if you have any further thoughts. As to the other parts of your question, I am not the most qualified to answer. NovaHyperion^talk 08:18, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. I am not a Greek speaker myself, and I did not know of the issue created by the romanization of Greek, although it certainly makes sense.

I did search for "Τσουρνάτ" as well, which yielded no more results except the two external link articles and the English Wikipedia page. I think that, as was referenced in the deletion discussion, due in part to the very limited sources list on a topic that appears to have been badly documented, this article is fit for deletion. Of course, not everything is available on the Internet, but as of currently I believe that information is missing in order to create a solid and reasonable article.

So, in a nutshell, I agree completely. Paolo Roland Self (talk) 15:21, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Ewa Kłobukowska page has incorrect information

Ewa Kłobukowska Third paragraph, first line, "According to the IAAF, she had "one chromosome too many", likely referring to detection of a Y chromosome in some of her cells." The citation for this claim is a ProQuest page (https://www.proquest.com/docview/433882174?sourcetype=Newspapers) that actually cites a New York Times article (https://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/sports/olympics/30gender.html), but this article does not make this specific claim. It's actually about a different athlete, and as you can tell from other citations of this paragraph on Ewa's page, she actually was disbarred (no pun intended) because of the presence of Barr body in her test sample, which is an inactivated X chromosome, not Y chromosome. I can't make this edit, because this paragraph would need some rewriting if the very first line is to be removed. Requesting anyone else interested to please look into this. Thanks. Cytosoul (talk) 20:48, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

The Teahouse is not the right place for this question; you would be best advised to put it on the relavant talk page. VidanaliK (talk to me) 01:04, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

You might also ask at WT:WikiProject Medicine if you need specialist help. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:29, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Utilizing (or not) info from a bio subject's family?

I've received a very positive and informative email from a relative of one of the individuals, now deceased, about whom I've done extensive research for a WP article. The email is genial and complimentary — more to the point, it's also informative in relation to some biographical areas (could add specific detail to a few topic areas). Up to now, all the information included in the article comes from published sources I've cited (books, newspaper articles, periodicals, accessible websites).

In the email there's information that is new to me, but as I say "details," none of which would actually shift the gist of a section if included.

My question boils down to: can I use any of these bits of info? And if so, how do I cite facts related in an email? Thanks for whatever light you can provide on this.Joel Russ (talk) 06:08, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Joel Russ. You cannot cite the email as a reliable source on Wikipedia or directly include any of that information, although the email may well give you possible clues to help guide additional searches for truly reliable sources. Sources cited on Wikipedia must be published which does not apply to an email between two people. They must also be subject to editorial control and have a reputation for accuracy and correcting errors. We all know that people often write nonsense in emails, sometimes in good faith. Family anecdotes based on memory are often inaccurate. I recently told some younger relatives a story about my grandfather's response to the death of one of his sons. Then I checked the dates and realized that my grandfather had died himself before the death of that son. The story was actually about the reaction of another of his sons, one of my uncles. These events were over 60 years ago and memories fade and get jumbled. The relevant policy is No original research. Cullen328 (talk) 07:15, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

So even something as mundane as “XYZ was of partial German, English and French descent” wouldn’t be allowed by Wp:OR? Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 10:23, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Correct, @KeyolTranslater. If a reader - anywhere, anytime - cannot in principle verify the information from a published source (even if they have to, say, order a copy from a major library), then it shouldn't be in Wikipedia ColinFine (talk) 13:53, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Ok good to know Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 15:13, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

We are just part of the information ecosystem, sometimes as in this case, the best option is to encourage people to publish elsewhere. Can you encourage your contact to get an obituary published in a place we can cite? ϢereSpielChequers 14:33, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for making this clear. It's helpful.Joel Russ (talk) 15:35, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Help with creating a new page

I noticed that there isn't a page for The Fox Experiment. I have the game, and am wanting to make the page for it; However, I'm not certain how to go about it. Does anyone have advice for how to create a new page about a board game? UnscapeableDeath (talk) 17:09, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

I think your first step should be looking for sources regarding it, like reveries from board game sites, and news sites etc Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 17:29, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @UnscapeableDeath, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 18:47, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Read WP:YFA. If it's notable enough for Wikipedia, and you write it well enough, it should get to mainspace. I'd recommend first looking for sources, because that's the reason a lot of drafts miss the mark. Here's the draft page to start you off: Draft:The Fox Experiment. Don't be discouraged. --DollarStoreBa'al^Converse 18:10, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

citation format after a comma

I have got a sentence which consists of three sources, the sentence is separated by a comma. I want to cite two of the sources after a comma and the third after the sentence is completed. I want to know whats the guideline regarding citing after comma, can i cite after a comma like , just like a fullstop . Tribol (talk) 11:59, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi Tribol, that's correct – citations can follow commas in just the same way as they follow full stops. If you're interested in more detail on how citations and punctuation should interact, the relevant guidance is at MOS:REFPUNCT within the manual of style. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:03, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@Tribol Your question might or might not really be about the comma. I'll answer something you didn't ask:

• "Can I put a citation directly after one single fact anywhere, with punctuation or without, if it's necessary to make it clear that the citation is only for that fact?"
• "Yes, you can."

The rule about the citation going outside the period, comma, or semicolon, only means "when you happen to want to place a citation in the same position as one of these marks, the citation goes to the right of the mark". It doesn't mean citations have to wait until there's a punctuation mark. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 18:21, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

In other words, it just means don't allow citations to push the punctuation away from the sentence, because that doesn't look nice.

And while we're on this stuff, if you ever need it: if you have to cite (a single fact in parentheses), the citation goes inside the parentheses to show it's only for that fact. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 18:37, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

References

Notability requirements for biography

Hello,

I’m seeking guidance on how to meet Wikipedia’s notability requirements for a biography draft that was declined through Articles for Creation.

I understand that Wikipedia requires multiple independent, reliable secondary sources that provide significant coverage of the subject. I would appreciate advice on what types of coverage or sources would best satisfy these requirements, so I can work toward improving the draft before resubmitting it.

One of the sources currently cited is a Rolling Stone UK profile, which appears to be a standalone feature rather than a brief list mention. I would appreciate guidance on how this type of coverage is typically evaluated under Wikipedia’s notability guidelines.

For context, here is an example of the type of coverage currently cited:

If possible, I would also appreciate general advice on what additional forms of independent coverage are most helpful for establishing notability in a biography article.

If it would be useful, I am happy to share additional external links (including my personal website) strictly for background context, to help identify any independent coverage that may be suitable under Wikipedia’s sourcing standards.

Thank you for your time and assistance.

Wiki Draft page link—Draft:Tanveer Zamani. ~2026-37633-6 (talk) 15:36, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

The draft was created by User:Tzamani3541. If that is you, please remember to sign in before commenting here (or elsewhere); and please tell us if you are the subject of the draft.

An article titled "10 entrepreneurs to watch in 2024" is clearly not a stand-alone profile. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:48, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Tzamani3541, and welcome to the Teahouse.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

This means that, having found your independent sources, you need to put aside essentially everything you know about the subject, and write a summary of what these sources say. This is, of course, why writing about yourself on Wikipedia is so extremely difficult that very few people have ever done it successfully, and attempting it is usually a waste of everybody's time and effort. Hence autobiography is very strongly discouraged.

Regarding the sources: evaluate every source against all the criteria in golden rule. For independence, ask whether the subject, (and their associates, and organisations they are affiliated with) had any role at all in generating the source: did they write it, edit it, commission it? Did they provide the information that's in it (whether in a press release, an interview, or otherwise)? Were they invited to approve it before publication? If the answer to any of those is Yes then it is not independent. ColinFine (talk) 17:00, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Notability on Wikipedia doesn't come from accomplishments; it comes from reliable publishers who have no connection with the subject, and who (all on their own) decided to write up the subject's history.

Wikipedia's version of notability does not include any of these:

• announcements of anything
• articles containing interview answers
• material that came from a press release
• proof of working with, or getting mentioned by, someone
• information that came from the subject or their supporters or associates (websites, social media, publicists, etc)

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Wikipedia notability does include these:

• long, in-depth articles that are mainly about the subject's history, only from Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Articles about future projects don't count.
• Grammy awards, or other awards where the award already has its own Wikipedia article - if an award doesn't have its own Wikipedia article, it doesn't give any notability.

TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:18, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

How to get better at editing.

I've tried editing in Wiki but so far I think I've done a less than mediocre job. How do I improve on this. Another question is are we allowed to use British English or stick with American while editing. QwertyChaos2012 (talk) 10:57, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@QwertyChaos2012 To your first question: practice makes perfect. To your second, the idea is that some articles have obvious ties to a version of English (e.g. London in British, New York City in American). There is full advice at WP:ENGVAR. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:07, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll look into it. QwertyChaos2012 (talk) 11:09, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Use whichever English style the article is already written in, just to keep the continuity, for example all my Wikipedia articles are written using British English (as I’m British) and therefore any new editors would need to continue that same trend. Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 11:20, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

When editing an existing article, always just continue to use the variety of English it already uses. The main aim is to leave this stuff alone and not fight over it.

There's an exception when an article is already messed up by inconsistent spelling. In that case, you need to find out which version is right for that article; if the article has been tagged for a long time with a certain version, change all the spelling to use that. If the article has a quite recent new tag, it might just be from someone who likes tagging articles, so take such a tag much less seriously. The other indication is to look in the edit history for the first identifiable variety of English in the article, and follow their lead.

Only jump in and change all the spelling of an article if it's a VERY obvious American-only or British-only topic, where "wrong English" is actually getting in the way. Example: I think American English describes a cricket match as "Uhhh...?" :) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:42, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Question

Can Geni be seen as a verifiable and notable source? Landonwantstoknowthat (talk) 04:03, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Geni.com. Seems user generated, so I'd lean no; Geni has been cited in academic journals, though some critics remain concerned about the accuracy of collaborative trees as a whole (from the page). jolielover♥talk 04:05, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Landonwantstoknowthat. I am assuming that you are referring to the genealogy site Geni.com. It is considered notable since Wikipedia has an article about it. However, that site is based on user contributed content so it is not appropriate for use as a reliable source on Wikipedia. It may well be useful for genealogy researchers, though. "Notable" and "reliable" are different concepts. Cullen328 (talk) 04:12, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

A source that allows users to edit can't be reliable, because that means the site owners can't be held responsible for mistakes. The ability to hold the publisher responsible for their mistakes is a very big part of reliability. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:48, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Remind me tool

Is there some kind of reminder tool or script that I can use to ping myself to a specific discussion in X number of days? Something like the RemindMe! bot on reddit? ScrubbedFalcon (talk) 17:28, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@ScrubbedFalcon Yes. User:SD0001/W-Ping. The only thing is that it creates a watchlist item, not a ping, since I assume the ping system is near-impossible to manipulate like that. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 17:37, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@Cremastra Ahh brilliant, thanks! Any other useful scripts a new user should now about? I just found the easy-merge script ScrubbedFalcon (talk) 18:02, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Here are a few I find useful:

User:Þjarkur/NeverUseMobileVersion.js

MoreMenu

User:BrandonXLF/TodoList.js Cremastra (talk · contribs) 18:23, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

User:Þjarkur/NeverUseMobileVersion says, as its first sentence:

Google on mobile uses "en.m.wikipedia.org", this scripts redirects to the normal desktop version.

This is outdated, since the .m is no longer in use. Is this a mere technicality of not updating the documentation, where the actual script is working fine? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:39, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I don't know. I've had the script for a long time and didn't know that .m was no longer in use. That must be a recent change. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 21:19, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

It is recent. I still get the mobile version, it just has no .m anymore. I haven't tried the script. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 20:06, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@Cremastra A-ha! The script was updated a few months ago so that it would continue to work, but the explanation wasn't changed. I'll reword it (as slightly as possible) to take the change into account. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 20:12, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Couldn’t someone program a bot to do that for any user that requested it for a specific discussion and time? The bot could add a courtesy ping to the discussion, or just tag the user on their own talk page to remind them of it. Shadestar474 (they/he) ^(talk) 07:44, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

A reply of two halves:

1. Idealistic (so not immediately helpful): This seems to be a topic that crops up from time to time. It at least got recognised as something reasonable and desirable: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88781. (My own suggestion, before knowing of that, was in this village pump suggestion.)
2. Pragmatic workaround: I maintain a personal subpage (like a personal sandbox) where I jot down self-reminders. It doesn't actively remind me, but at least the info is there... so long as I remember to check it periodically!

Feline Hymnic (talk) 11:39, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

I have a To-do list script that's very helpful for this. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 14:52, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

move discussion diverges from the original discussion

Three editors are involved in a move discussion regarding name of a Khmer temple located on the Cambodia-Thailand border Talk:Prasat Ta Krabey#Requested move 6 January 2026. Two users favor the retaining of existing title which is based on Khmer language whilst one support the move to a title based on Thai language.

The discussion diverges into the two users who favor Khmer language name throwing accusations at another user of not being neutral. While the accusations might be valid, I do not believe that move request is the appropriate place for such accusations. Should something be done about this?Jothefiredragon🐲talk🔥contributions🧨log✨mail🐉global 21:34, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Steering all of them toward neutrality (NOT balance) and trying to get them to be WP:CIVIL with each other may help.

Also, pointing out to them that the name has to match what's used by most of the reliable sources that are in English; that name might be different from the latest accepted usage in the area. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 21:47, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

I wish for others to be the ones to tell those people to calm down. As, I'm Thai and most of my edits are related to Thailand, accusations could arise against myself of not being neutral. Jothefiredragon🐲talk🔥contributions🧨log✨mail🐉global 21:52, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

That makes sense. My skill as a mediator is pretty low, so be glad I'm not volunteering. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:25, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Trying to Get an Article Accepted

I think I just submitted a revised (third) draft of an article I am trying to submit. The second time, I was first told there was a suspicion that I used an LLM, which was not the case. After that, the reviewer made some specific suggestions about formatting and a couple of references, which I have addressed in this third draft.User talk:Jpfrendreis I cannot tell if I submitted it properly. If I did, what happens next? Jpfrendreis (talk) 23:37, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

I assume you are referring to Draft:James L. Gibson? It appears you didn't actually resubmit it. To submit it, press the "resubmit" button. Happy editing! VidanaliK (talk to me) 23:56, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Also, for next time, it would be helpful to name which article you are referring to without leaving me to guess based off your contributions page. VidanaliK (talk to me) 23:57, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I just tried again, and it appears to have been submitted properly. Sorry for omitting the article name, and thank you for your quick and effective help. Jpfrendreis (talk) 00:15, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Multiple small category edits

Hi everyone,

Quick etiquette question. Today I added a few categories to an article (Hồ Ngọc Hà), but I did it as several small edits (each one adding a category) with the same summary (“Additional category”). In hindsight I’m not sure if this looks like edit-rushing or if it’s acceptable.

Is it better practice to bundle multiple category additions into one edit, or is doing them separately fine when each category is a discrete improvement? Also, should I use more specific edit summaries (e.g., “Add Category songwriters”)?

Thanks for any guidance. LionmerterTHE (talk) 07:32, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Don't worry about the edit count, if that's what you mean by 'edit-rushing'. The only consideration is whether you're cluttering up the page history. As for the edit summaries, the most popular tool for categorising, WP:HOTCAT, does leave the name of the category in the edit summary, so people might expect you to do so, too. In general, the more descriptive, the better, but I wouldn't say 'additional category' is a bad edit summary. JustARandomSquid (talk) 08:12, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you!, that’s helpful. I will continue with category edits manually for now. Will also take a look at WP:HOTCAT and likely use it going forward. Much appreciated. LionmerterTHE (talk) 09:42, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Dear Lionmeter, individual edits per category is fine, especially if you flag such small edits as minor. Flagging such edits as minor enables those who have set their watchlists to ignore minor edits to ignore your edits when they are looking for edits that add text to articles they are interested in. Conversely if you make lots of minor tweaks and don't mark them as minor you do irritate those who are using their watchlist to follow articles they are interested in (I say that as someone who does lots of categorisation and quite a bit of typo fixing). ϢereSpielChequers 12:58, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

You are very right and thats an interesting point of view. Thank you for the feedback! LionmerterTHE (talk) 05:12, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Untitiled

I dont really use wikipedia, but I have this incredibly annoying guy who refuses to revise their addition despite multiple attempts to show issues. They've reverted my changes like 20 times now and wasted a ton of my time. What can i do about this. My issue is that they are using citations which contradict the stuff they're saying. I put this on talk page:

The above editor cites two studies. Had this editor read the material they cite, they'd know that the second study provides additional data and findings which are contrary to assertions made by the first. Namely, the assertion of the first study that "data" "empirically" refutes Graeber's analysis. The second study directly references the first study and regularly counterposes the two. The reason this is significant is it indicates clear academic disagreement on the utility of Graeber's "bullshit jobs" theory. Because there is academic disagreement, the first study cannot be understood as an authoritative refutation of Graeber's concept, and I don't see why it belongs in the lead.

Bullshit Jobs. ~2026-23986-9 (talk) 05:24, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-23986-9 and @Avatar317, it looks like both of you have been edit warring over the past week. Per WP:WAR, this can lead to blocks. Can you both agree to discuss the problem cordially rather than through reverts? toby ^{(t)(c)(rw)(omo)} 05:32, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

i mean just frankly, and I apologize for the harsh words, im pretty frustrated here, but my perception of wikipedia before joining was that it was filled with arrogant pricks and this pretty much confirms it. This guy doesn't even seem to understand the subject matter and just wants to see some of their words on a page on the internet. So reflecting on this, I think I'd rather just stop contributing and leave the site. ~2026-23986-9 (talk) 05:44, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Alright. toby ^{(t)(c)(rw)(omo)} 05:45, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I know I came in hot but because they dont understand the subject matter, they perhaps don't even understand that they're presenting a deeply partisan argument as neutral, which is incredibly irritating. I tried softening my tone but I dont think they noticed. anyway im out this site is a waste of time thanks for helping me clarify ~2026-23986-9 (talk) 05:49, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Yeah. "I know I came in hot" means "I know I was an arrogant prick too". This thing is definitely not just their fault. Sorry. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:21, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

well thats a fair criticism

I think what pissed me off is here's this academic who's released a paper making what I view as a pretty underhanded attack that could easily be disproven by this dude David except.. he can't because he's recently died. ~2026-23986-9 (talk) 07:32, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Usually, a person saying this is right, AND is also an arrogant prick themselves. The solution is for somebody, anybody, to stop being an arrogant prick and start actually solving the problem. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:10, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Trying to Get an Article Approved

Hello. I'm trying to get this article published: Draft:Credit Canada. I've tried submitting the article three times, disclosed COI, and every time I think I am addressing the issues, it gets rejected. I want to do this the right way and comply with all policies. The reason for rejecting this last submission was the following: "Your draft shows signs of having been generated by a large language model, such as ChatGPT. Wikipedia guidelines prohibit the use of LLMs to write articles from scratch. In addition, LLM-generated articles usually have multiple quality issues, to include..." I created the second submission/draft of the article entirely from scratch and without the use of LLMs. The second rejection said it sounded too promotional AND it showed signs of LLM use. So then I drastically edited down this third submission manually, and once again, it was rejected for the reasons listed above. I am looking for guidance on how to get the article published. Could you please provide me with notes on how I can improve the article, while abiding by all policies and disclosing COI, so that it is approved and published? Any help is much appreciated. Thank you. Amolina1225 (talk) 20:57, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Amolina1225 Hello and welcome. Your draft was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted.

As you are employed by Credit Canada, you must make the stricter paid editing disclosure instead of a COI disclosure.

You have made a common- but fundamental- error with your approach in that you are telling us what you want the world to know about your company. Instead, you should be summarizing what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about (in this case) the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. The draft says "Credit Canada is cited in academic and policy literature examining the development of the Canadian credit counselling industry" but it does not elaborate beyond that. What is it that is said about Credit Canada and what makes it important to credit counseling in Canada? That's what the article should focus on. 331dot (talk) 21:09, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Promotional isn't really a style, even though the style can be a clue. The problem is that the things you're choosing to mention are just the sorts of things a promoter would want to mention.

The solution, unfortunately, is to remove all mention of those things, and write a different article altogether - one that isn't written from your own point of view and that doesn't contain any of the information you consider essential. Instead, it needs to be from the point of view of reliable mainstream publishers who aren't associated with you or with the credit business in general (i.e. no industry publications). TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 21:59, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

(Industry publications can be used to provide isolated neutral facts, but only insofar as those facts were already part of the mainstream publishers' stories - for example if a mainstream publisher quoted a number that is now out of date, or named a person who no longer works there.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:22, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

If I ask you the question 'why are you so determined to get this article published?' Your likely answer ('the boss is asking about it'/'we have a big trade show coming up and want the SEO'/'I got told to do this months ago and still haven't been able...') will explain why your draft keeps getting declined for being promotional; because it is.

I advise you to read WP:BOSS and relay the information therein to whoever set you on this doomed affair. Athanelar (talk) 09:26, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Creating a Page for my employer

How can I create a page for my employer? can anyone advice me? TechEditorUAE (talk) 03:54, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

It appears your sandbox was deleted for G11. Courtesy ping to DoubleGrazing, who declined and deleted the page. Since it is deleted, I can't check; however, I would guess that it was largely due to the sourcing. As Chaotic Enby says here, Wikipedia doesn't care what the organization has to say about itself. Sourcing consisting entirely of the organization's website makes it both likely to be deleted under G11, and doesn't show that the organization is notable enough. Wikipedia needs multiple independent, reliable sources with significant coverage. If those can not be shown, it is not notable, and can't have an article about it. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) (contributions) 04:09, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

The draft I deleted wasn't especially promotional in tone, but it was only supported by the company's own website, and therefore purely promotional in the sense of being them telling the world about their business. This came straight after the user had been unblocked based on the understanding that they would not promote their employer. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:04, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Experience has shown me thus far that "I won't be promotional" typically means "I removed the part of the article that says 'FooBar Inc is the leading provider of foo solutions preferred by most customers in the Examplia region' and made no other substantial changes"

WP:YESPROMO needs to be on some kind of required reading list at this point Athanelar (talk) 09:18, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi TechEditorUAE. The essay "Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia" covers this type of thing; so, you might find the information it contains helpful. I also suggest taking a look at Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) because nobody is going to be able to create an article about your employer if they're unable to clearly establish your employer is Wikipedia notable. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:29, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you , now I can understand what was my mistake. Is there an option i can post in for review so that I dont publish it , and experts can review it and later I can publish it if accepted. Like I can do paragraph by paragraph. TechEditorUAE (talk) 09:37, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Please read WP:BOSS as shown by Marchjuly, and show it to your superiors and colleagues at your company. In short, you are extremely unlikely to succeed in writing about your company; this is based on the experience of many thousands of people who came before you, attempting to write about their own companies. People in your position have great difficulty editing as Wikipedia asks, you need to set aside everything you know about your company and all materials it puts out, limiting yourself to summarizing what others have written about it. Are you one of the rare people who can do this successfully? Possibly, but the odds are against it.

If you truly feel that you can do this, you may submit a draft via the Article Wizard. You should first gather independent reliable sources with significant coverage of your company- like critical analysis and commentary about how your company is viewed(not how it views itself). Routine business annoucements and interviews do not contribute to notability.

You should also be aware that an article is not necessarily something to desire. There are good reasons to not want one. For example, disgruntled customers could vandalize it, if only temporarily. Good or bad information about your company can be in an article as long as it appears in an independent source and is not defamatory. 331dot (talk) 09:43, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Pending changes

Hi, I have begun to work on clearing "pending changes backlog", but I don't seem to be able to access my history of accepting or rejecting revisions, and any comments that I have left. Please help. Thank you! _signed, Kvinnen (talk) 12:43, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Try here. JustARandomSquid (talk) 14:08, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! How do I get here organically? _signed, Kvinnen (talk) 14:14, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

It's at Special:Log, just select 'Review log' from the options. JustARandomSquid (talk) 14:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! _signed, Kvinnen (talk) 14:24, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

The Brahmos page is full of unreliable sources and NPOV violation

Specifically in the combat part It uses economictimes,NDTV(owned by a goverment friendly oligarch) and in one instance used a tweet (from a propaganda account) one of the worst article I've viewed but it's protected and I can't put NPOV if someone explains how to put NPOV or other issues in general it would also be appreciated Stanjik (talk) 14:14, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi Stanjik. Brahmos is brief disambiguation page. Is this about BrahMos? Here you should see a button to submit an edit request. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:25, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Normally, you'd be able to edit an article yourself, but, as you've noticed, because this article is on a controversial topic, this is restricted to more experienced editors. In this case, you can bring up any concerns you have on the article's talk page — in this case, Talk:BrahMos. JustARandomSquid (talk) 14:27, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Herstmonceux castle page

Herstmonceux castle. Iam trying to add a matter of public interest. Regarding Herstmonceux Castle being awarded with the royal horticultural society's and plant heritage. National collection status for the water lily in the grounds of the castle. I try to edit in the information but it gets taken down. Please advise any help would be most appreciated. Best wishes Graham Fisherwarner (talk) 01:16, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

You should take the advice already given to you on your talk page, particularly as you are conflicted. Sources are the thing that will decide. - Walter Ego 01:21, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Graham, two hours before your post above, editor Dormskirk added this information correctly by Citing it to a Reliable source (a BBC News article) so that readers can if they wish Verify the information and know that it was not made up by somebody pretending to be you – that sort of thing does happen, so we have to do everything according to the proper procedures and only use Published sources that can be trusted. Now the article has a direct link to that BBC report with its quotes by, and a photograph of, you. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2025-31359-08 (talk) 14:52, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Draft biography (COI disclosure)

Hello,

I am looking for assistance from an uninvolved editor who may be willing to review and, if appropriate, submit a draft biography via Articles for Creation.

I am the subject of the article and therefore have a conflict of interest, so I prefer not to submit it myself. I have prepared a neutral draft offline purely to make review easier, and I understand that any editor is free to revise, shorten, or decline it entirely.

The draft relies on multiple independent, reliable secondary sources from national media in Honduras, Japan, and Taiwan.

If someone is willing to take a look or advise on next steps, I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance you for your time. ~2026-44832-5 (talk) 07:32, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

One of the main purposes of the Articles for Creation process is to allow editors with a conflict of interest to submit drafts that are then evaluated by an uninvolved reviewer. It is not necessary and out of the ordinary to recruit an uninvolved editor to submit the draft. A draft should be submitted by the person who wrote it. You should move the draft to Wikipedia draft space so that people can check it out. Cullen328 (talk) 07:38, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi ~2026-44832-5. If you're asking for someone to contact you outside of Wikipedia to review your draft, then you're probably asking a bit too much (at least in my opinion). It would probably just be better for you to register for an WP:ACCOUNT, make all of the necessary conflict-of-interest declarations, and then create a draft yourself via Wikipedia:Articles for creation. While it's true that Wikipedia:Autobiography strongly discourages people from trying to create articles about themselves, it doesn't expressly prohibit them from doing so. As long as you're upfront about what you're trying to do and adhere to relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines like Wikipedia:Biographies of living people, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, you should be OK in at least creating a draft. Once you've done that, it will be easier for someone to assess whether you meet Wikipedia:Notability for a stand-alone article to be created about you and whether the sources you want to cite are as reliable as you're claiming they are. In addition to the pages I've mentioned so far, you might also want to take a look at Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing since you might decide after reading what's written there that you don't want to be written about on Wikipedia after all. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:49, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

In addition to what the other people here have said, the fact your comment is written with an AI leads me to suspect that you also asked that AI how you should go about getting your article published. As you can now see, these chatbots have absolutely no idea what the proper procedure to follow here is. We strongly prefer that you communicste with us in your own words, please. Athanelar (talk) 09:14, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I would also add that if you engage a third party to work on and submit your draft on your behalf, by so doing your COI transmits also to that third party. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:49, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

And in addition that third party will have to jump through all the Paid editor hoops or try to explain why they don't need to. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2025-31359-08 (talk) 14:58, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Areas in need of contributing

Is there any consensus in the community on the area of knowledge or the general subject that needs the most contribution? GnosticMarley (talk) 13:36, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

No, not really. Many of us have interests and priorities that are very diverse. The beauty of Wikipedia is that we can all spend time working on content that matters to us. There are people out there who talk of "important" articles, there are also people that talk of popular articles, and there are differences of opinion both on the definition of important and the definition of popular. My suggestion is that you focus on subjects and processes that interest you. ϢereSpielChequers 14:40, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Informal opinion, but I've heard a lot of people agree that Maths is pretty neglected! jolielover♥talk 14:42, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

I would add that in my experience many maths articles are written in too technical a manner for the ideal target level of readership – see Wikipedia:Readers first and Wikipedia:Make technical articles understandable. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2025-31359-08 (talk) 15:17, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

I agree with ~2025-31359-08: I've seen many articles in math and advanced science that are definitely written in language that is difficult to understand for a user who does not have a university degree in those areas! Of course, improving this aspect requires a good grasp of the matter at hand. Paolo Roland Self (talk) 15:26, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

We also have quite a number of botany articles in which the plants are described truthfully and correctly but in a kind of highly-compressed and jargon-heavy style that only a botanist can successfully read through. Those ones may have the advantage that real in-depth knowledge of botany might not be required to fix them; it might just be hundreds of visits to glossaries and dictionaries to sort them out. I'm not sure.

(I don't trust myself to fix the math ones, because I often won't know whether I've got it right.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 18:47, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

That's the same for me. I don't dabble in the math ones because I don't trust myself either about getting them right, especially when the task at hand involves synthesizing or explaining concepts. Paolo Roland Self (talk) 21:58, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

This being Wikipedia, synthesis can't be part of what we as editors write. If it is, the article is faulty.

BUT if some source presents its own synthesis, and if I can't follow what they're saying, then I know for sure I'm in over my head. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:08, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Definitely! By synthesizing, I meant finding better explanations for concepts that circumvent cut-and-dry university-level mathematics explanations. Paolo Roland Self (talk) 05:18, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Agreed. Articles on GCSE level maths sound like aeronautical engineering, lol. jolielover♥talk 06:19, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Totally. Paolo Roland Self (talk) 15:29, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Error help

I was trying to fix something at Portal:Tornadoes and after publishing my change the page became filled with an error saying "The time allocated for running scripts has expired." I've never encountered this before; how do I fix this? ^EF⁵ 15:24, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi EF5. You tried to make it analyze 75 articles to look for images. That was too much. Template:Transclude files as random slideshow#Usage says:

Note: Though there is no fixed limit to the number of pages that can be specified, or images per page, be aware that technical limitations may be encountered for very large numbers of pages or images.

Reduce the number of articles. If you only go a little below the number which produces the error now then it may reappear later. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:10, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

does wikipedia have any self consistency rules

i found a grammatical error in a high visibility article, along with some of thee stuff just being straight up incorrect. do I be bold?????????????????????????????????? Sinai Peninsula (talk) 19:27, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello,Sinai Peninsula. The first thing that you should do is limit yourself to one question mark per sentence. If you speak English fluently, please correct grammatical errors. As for factual errors, you need to cite a reliable published source that verifies any information that you want to change. Cullen328 (talk) 19:42, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Sinai Peninsula, can you explain the bizarre and disruptive material on your user page? Cullen328 (talk) 19:47, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

I've purged their user page of 377,000 bytes as it was annihilating my low-end device. toby ^{(t)(c)(rw)(omo)} 19:52, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Got bored and decided to see how many templates until my device is fried Sinai Peninsula (talk) 16:39, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Sinai Peninsula. Regarding self-consistency, all material in this English-language Wikipedia should comply with the rules of English grammar (allowing for the fact that there are different versions of English, see WP:ENGVAR). However, given that in any month approximately 100,000 different people from all over the globe, many for whom English is not their first (or second, or . . .) language, make edits on Wikipedia, it is inevitable that some mistakes are made. Correcting them when encountered is a routine background task of all regular editors who are sure of their command of English. Given the arguably nine mistakes of orthography in your query above, I trust that you will be cautious in your boldness. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2025-31359-08 (talk) 00:08, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

CORTINA, was not an outlaw.

•  Courtesy link: Juan Cortina

Juan N. Cortina was not an outlaw. Juan merely stood his ground when the white man tried to overthrow his endeavors for Mexicananos. 5ReyAce (talk) 23:19, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi! My guess is you are asking how you can change that? If you think the statement of him being an outlaw is incorrect, the best move is to first find reliable sources that support the claim, then edit it to reflect that. If someone reverts your edits, discuss it on the talk page. Happy editing!

(A side note that the term "outlaw" doesn't have to have a negative connotation; it could also mean someone that broke the law justly, but that is getting into a matter of opinion) VidanaliK (talk to me) 23:31, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

It's also a surname. Many years ago on the way to school I would drive past a dentist's office with the sign "John D. Outlaw, DDS" in front. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 06:36, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

also also, isn't wikipedia meant to be neutral? Arthur Deetoo (talk) 12:48, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@Arthur Deetoo - well, we strive to have a neutral point of view while summarizing what reliable sources say. So if all the reliable sources are leaning in the same direction, so does Wikipedia. Meadowlark (talk) 10:13, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Neutral means taking no side. We just rewrite the opinions that are already written by reliable sources.

People often say "Wikipedia should be neutral" when they really mean "Wikipedia should publish my version of the story even though the actual reliable sources disagree with me". TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 18:18, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Changing usernames

Is there any way to change my username? I looked through my settings but I can't find a way to do it. Can you help me change it?

RoTML (talk) 15:00, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

@RoTML You have to put in a request at WP:CHUS or Special:GlobalRenameRequest and a renamer will do it if the username follows our policy and is not taken or restricted from creation. HurricaneZeta^C 15:02, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for your help @HurricaneZeta! RoTML (talk) 15:21, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

But also, @RoTML, you only have 51 edits - you could also simply abandon this account and make a new one with the username you want. Accounts can't be deleted, but you can just log out and not use it again. If there's only a few edits linked to an account, it's not really worth the time and effort involved going through the username change process (for both you and a volunteer with renamer rights). Meadowlark (talk) 16:42, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

@Meadowlark I think it's worth a try to get it renamed. Otherwise I suppose that's the only other option. RoTML (talk) 16:45, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

It's not really a tough process and from my experience it's pretty quick, and easier than abandoning an account. HurricaneZeta^C 16:47, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

They rejected my first one, saying that wikipedia strongly advises against using real names or nicknames which can be traced to you, even though I didn't use my real name. I tried again saying I understand the risks, so it should be done in an hour or two. RoTML (talk) 16:49, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

It is obviously taking longer than last time (Probably a good sign) so I'm not abandoning accounts yet... RoTML (talk) 17:39, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Being strongly advised against isn't a rejection. Resubmit the request, and make it clear that the username is a pseudonym and not your real name. There are plenty of people here who have real-name accounts. This is common for company representatives or people who are the subject of an article. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 18:46, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Okay, thanks RoTML (talk) 19:00, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

How to upload an article from sandbox

How can I upload an article on Peter Stilton from my Sandbox? If it requires review and approval first, can someone please tell me how it needs to be improved? If it's OK, what are my next steps? I'd like to upload and attach a photo of one of his paintings, but I understand that the article must be approved first. Thank you. Evelyn Evbless (talk) 22:19, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

I have moved your draft to here Draft:Peter Stilton and added a submit button, but please be advised that currently there is no indication that Stilton passes the criteria at WP:NARTIST. Theroadislong (talk) 22:40, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

The article is also incredibly refbombed because <ref name> hasn't been employed properly. @Evbless Please see WP:REFNAME for how to properly name and reuse refs without them ending up with a new citation number every time. Athanelar (talk) 10:32, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Mostly fixed, using reFill. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:14, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! I will rework the references. I find this section difficult to follow but assume the system will show me if I’ve redone it correctly. I will also work on making his public reknown more clear. ~2026-43732-0 (talk) 18:15, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@Evbless You don't need to Wikilink common items like "pianos". Not every term that has an article needs a link; people know what a piano is. David10244 (talk) 17:04, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm reminded of that old Polish dictionary entry; "Horse: Everyone knows what a horse is." Athanelar (talk) 17:25, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I wonder if that could be put as a definition for horse on wiktionary for an april fools day joke mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 20:20, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

wamiqa gabbi 2024 profile

I want wamiqa gabbi 2024 profile where she was snapped outside Maddock office from March to whole Year 3 years

a request also that i also want Akshay kumar 2019 profile where he is receiving an award for March to 3 years ~2026-38011-5 (talk) 16:53, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Your question is unclear. Do you want to add information to an article? Athanelar (talk) 17:22, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

According to my LLM, This person might be trying to say is “I am requesting a 2024 profile of Wamiqa Gabbi, featuring images of her being photographed outside the Maddock Films office, starting from March and covering the full year, with the profile spanning a total period of three years. Additionally, I am requesting a 2019 profile of Akshay Kumar, focused on him receiving an award, beginning in March and extending across a three-year period.” I do not think question has anything to do with wikipedia. Someone667 (talk) 21:44, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello! This page is for people who need help editing wikipedia. You might have better luck with a search engine like Google or DuckDuckGo. If you still want help from a Wikipedian, then the reference desk could prove helpful! mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 20:35, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Capitalization of "backronym" legislation?

Hi, Teahouse! I’ve been editing an article on the Nurture Originals, Foster Art, and Keep Entertainment Safe Act, more recognizably known as the NO FAKES Act. I was looking at existing articles, like the ELVIS Act and the TAKE IT DOWN Act which are also backronym laws. The sources I consulted use both 'NO FAKES' and 'No Fakes,' but the former is more common. A few editors have changed the article title and some in-text references from 'NO FAKES' to 'No Fakes.' Is there a preferred way I should be handling this? (I have no strong preference on this either way - I just want to do whichever is correct.)

I’m not looking to start an edit war :) I’m just hoping to understand what the rules are. If anyone could point me to relevant guidance or policies on naming/capitalization for backronym legislation, I’d really appreciate it. Thank you! Librarygremlin (talk) 22:25, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Librarygremlin, and welcome to the Teahouse! While generally Wikipedia articles should adhere to WP:COMMONNAME (you should use the common name of a subject), if other editors disagree it would be best to start a talk page discussion and find out WHY they disagree. Hopefully you can reach a compromise that is acceptable to everyone. Happy editing! VidanaliK (talk to me) 22:29, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

That makes sense - thank you so much for the advice and guidance! Librarygremlin (talk) 22:35, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, there's a specific exception to COMMONNAME saying that names in all caps are forbidden, regardless of common usage. See WP:ALLCAPS. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 00:55, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

for what that's worth, that doesn't seem to apply here, unless it can be proven that the usage that isn't in all caps is more common consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 12:38, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

However, I'm pretty sure we don't require Fbi, Cia, or Nfl. So maybe the problem is finding out what the definition of "name" is supposed to be. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 00:59, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I checked in the Manual of Style and found that according to ACRO and CAPS, yes, the general rule is to keep acronyms capitalized. There are a few exceptions, but not the kind that would come up a lot.Augnablik (talk) 06:59, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing these points to my attention, I appreciate it! Librarygremlin (talk) 01:13, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

sidenote, why do politicians insist on doing this? I've always found it dumb and immature. Has this phenomenon been researched? It seems like a recent thing though I could be mistaken mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 20:42, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Surely it's just an image thing—make your opponents vote against your AMERICA Act or Make Everyone Rich Act or I Support Cute Puppies and Oppose Kicking Them Act. When opponents vote against it because its only purpose is actually to (for example) make trans people miserable or lower taxes on the wealthy, they look to a low-information public like a bad person who's unpatriotic, opposes making everyone rich, and supports kicking puppies. As to when it started, I couldn't say. LieutenantZipp (talk) 21:10, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Are these edits to the C. K. Raju page actually an improvement?

See the following edits made to this page last year about an Indian computer scientist:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=C._K._Raju&diff=1293288632&oldid=1292193479 (the previous version seems to me not perfect but still much better than the post-edit version)

The person who made the edits, @Shantisundaram1234, has since closed their account, so I can't discuss with them. However, it seems to me their edits are consistently irrationally pro-Raju and intended to quiet criticism of his controversial and often plain unscientific claims. This is bolstered by the remainder of their contribution history comprising three sessions of bolstering historically dubious notions of great Indian mathematical and scientific superiority (for example, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jye%E1%B9%A3%E1%B9%ADhadeva&diff=prev&oldid=940173912—the modern article, by way of contrast, states that "The Yuktibhāṣā is now believed to contain some elements of calculus . . . However, it did not combine several ideas under the two unifying concepts of the derivative and the integral, show the connection between the two, or turn calculus into the powerful problem-solving tool we have today"), mostly on the Raju page.

I can't fix their edits (for example, the removal of the criticism of the Telesio Galilei Academy (which does appear based on everything I can find to be effectively a fraudulent award mill for "alternative" scientists) or the discussions of criticism of (for example) Raju's arguments that Einstein simply failed to make use of functional differential equations) because I'm not extended confirmed and apparently effectively everything to do with Indian mathematics/science history is considered controversial topics, but I still feel it would be appropriate for those to be fixed. Can someone who is extended confirmed take a look at the C. K. Raju page and make appropriate edits to restore the well-founded criticism of Raju's theories? Or tell me where I'm wrong if I am. LieutenantZipp (talk) 19:53, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Just a note: it's basically impossible to close a Wikipedia account, and Shantisundaram1234 has not closed anything. But I understand that they haven't been seen here for half a year, meaning there's currently no practical way to contact them. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 20:43, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Ah. I must have misinterpreted the lack of user/talk page and link to the former being in red as the account no longer existing. LieutenantZipp (talk) 20:45, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

"No user page" is not the same as "no account". DS (talk) 21:12, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Got it (with respect to the lack of user page versus closed account, that is). Thank you! LieutenantZipp (talk) 21:18, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi Pls help me with my first article

some content in my first article was not as per policy but I dont understand why. Pls help me refine my article to meet this pages publication rules. SurbhiBhalla (talk) 21:05, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Your talk page is only about your personal achievements, so it reads as self-promotion. Remove the self-promotion and you'll be fine. LieutenantZipp (talk) 21:17, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

sure got it and removed the entire content its empty now SurbhiBhalla (talk) 21:25, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Not from what I can see. From what I can see, it still says "A Globally Renowned . . . [all the way through] . . . Victoria University (Australia)". LieutenantZipp (talk) 21:27, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Ah! It's gone now. Cool! LieutenantZipp (talk) 21:27, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

@SurbhiBhalla We do not host resumes on Wikipedia, which is all your page is. Please go elsewhere, for example LinkedIn, to post your resume. qcne (talk) 21:19, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I have removed the entire content now. Got it and understood the same. SurbhiBhalla (talk) 21:26, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

No problem. qcne (talk) 21:27, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

My Wikipedia new family

I have another question i first saw reviewed someone else's draft Draft:Hage Nasheotwalwa Mukwendje for the first time and I keep seeing many people's draft so I know how to comment on it, so I have commented correctly🙈I thought this opinion was right so I did it. Gujarat Samachar (talk) 21:48, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

tbh I'd say your comment is valid. Many AI signs. --DollarStoreBa'al^Converse 22:01, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

You may well be correct about the draft in question, but I would recommend leaving the draft reviewing to editors who have volunteered and been approved for this role. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 22:06, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Ok sorry Gujarat Samachar (talk) 22:09, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

FWIW I do agree and have declined the draft for AI signs Athanelar (talk) 00:06, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Uhh

I'm on mobile right now and the 'add topic' button at the bottom keeps flickering along with the bar, is this normal? -Weez3forever(ttm!) (check them out! Weezer) 16:24, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

It often does for me too; it's a browser glitch, not a Wikipedia issue, and occurs on other sites too. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:48, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

I’m also on a phone and the same thing happens. Are you using Safari? Because that’s where the problem comes from, not wiki. I have to turn my phone 90° (from portrait to landscape) and that normally fixes the issue for me. ~2026-19602-0 (talk) 17:30, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-19602-0 @Pigsonthewing I forgot to mention I'm on a Nokia when I'm on mobile. Whoops. A Nokia 2780 to be exact. -Weez3forever(ttm!) (check them out! Weezer) 21:44, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Wow. Checked the link, that is not my phone. -Weez3forever(ttm!) (check them out! Weezer) 21:45, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Are you using an android app or a web browser? Someone667 (talk) 21:46, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

@Someone667 I use the KaiOS Google client (the link on my phone is www.google.com/webhp?client=kaios-nokia if it helps.) on my Nokia 2780 Flip. I'm on a Chromebook as of typing this, though. -Weez3forever (ttm!)-(contribs) (check them out! Weezer) 21:56, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

maybe the issue is that you are using an outdated low powered device. Someone667 (talk) 22:01, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

@Someone667 Fair point. I've had this phone for a bit over a year now, I can see why it wouldn't work too well. -Weez3forever (ttm!)-(contribs) (check them out! Weezer) 22:02, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

That's a very new device; I don't see why the age should be a problem. I'm writing this on a (refurbished) 2015 laptop. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 22:14, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

@Cremastra Huh, I wonder what's up with it then. -Weez3forever (ttm!)-(contribs) (check them out! Weezer) 23:08, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

No, it's certain browser software and the coding of that button being incompatible with each other. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 00:50, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

As a bit of trivia (since you don't run into KaiOS users on enwiki very often) wikipedia used to (or maybe still does? the wikimedia page gives conflicting info) have an official KaiOS app mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 20:31, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

@Mgjertson Oh neat, I'll have to check that out -Weez3forever (ttm!)-(contribs) (check them out! Weezer) 00:30, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

@Weez3rforever A gentle suggestion -- if people are using the table of contents to look at this page, it would help them if you would use a relevant title for your topic. "Uhh" is not very helpful; something like "Add Topic button flickering" would be much more informative. Notice how other threads are titled. It's like getting an email where the subject line is "Question". Thanks! David10244 (talk) 17:27, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

album doesn't belong in discography??

Hi, I'm struggling to understand why this particular album, The Crux Deluxe, keeps being removed from Joe Keery's Discography. I mean I understand at first glance why, generally we're not supposed to list duplicate material and it's called "deluxe", but this album isn't a duplicate: it contains exactly as many new tracks as The Crux and has reliable secondary sources about it as it's own work and the physical releases (vinyl, cd, cassette) don't contain any old tracks. the latest removal of the album from the discography cites the repeated The Crux tracks on Spotify as reason and I can't argue that fact, but it still doesn't make sense to me why that should erase what is otherwise a full new album (and a fourth of the artist's solo discography) from the table. D-sides, which is included under EPs, is a physical release of the new tracks from the previous Decide (Deluxe), so I'm even more confused as to why The Crux Deluxe keeps being removed despite being the same situation. Is the important distinction here just that Spotify doesn't list The Crux Deluxe songs independent from The Crux? and it just doesn't matter that the physical releases were all independent? This is different users removing it so I know its not just one person I disagree with, I know I've been wrong on here before and am usually able to move on fine if my edits get undone, but I've gotten frustrated and probably too worked up about it's removal lately just because I cannot understand why people would want it not listed so badly. Any help or two-cents would be appreciated, thank you.

(do want to clarify I'm trying to avoid edit warring, I added it to the chart after a removal twice prior but am bringing my question here instead of editing it further now. I didn't bring it to the talk page because it's different people and not one person I disagree with, and to be honest I'm scared of direct confrontation on here because of how tone can come across through text.) Devonias (talk) 06:21, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

The talk page is essential. If you go to any kind of dispute resolution, the first thing they check is did you use the talk page appropriately.

You are free to use individual editors' talk pages too. But not free to avoid the talk page route. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:47, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

understood thank you Devonias (talk) 00:43, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Please approve this 🥺

[[Draft:Man Dhaga Dhaga Jodte Nava]] please some approve this i added soures please Gujarat Samachar (talk) 20:26, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Gujarat Samachar. It is awaiting review. This may take two months or more. Please be patient. I will note you should not use The Times of India as a source for entertainment-related articles. qcne (talk) 20:28, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Then how i make article? If times also not reliable so? I am very much fractured 😮‍💨😮‍💨 Gujarat Samachar (talk) 20:29, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Replace the Times of India source with a high quality reliable source. qcne (talk) 20:31, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

https://maharashtratimes.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/television-news/star-pravah-serial-man-dhaga-dhaga-jodate-nava-going-off-air-this-month-will-be-replaced-by-ude-ga-ambe/articleshow/113903788.cms

This is work? Gujarat Samachar (talk) 20:33, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

But this is indian language but Maharashtra its very known online paper also come in my house 🥰 Gujarat Samachar (talk) 20:33, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

If Maharashtra Times is reliable (according to English Wikipedia's standards), then it doesn't matter if the paper is not in English. Reliable sources are reliable. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 20:37, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Indian-language sources are fine to use. I don't speak Marathi so cannot evaluate, but if you think it is a high quality source you can use it. qcne (talk) 20:37, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Aaaw...How sweet both thank you 😊 Gujarat Samachar (talk) 20:38, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

One more question → I had try put 'Gadasari Atta Sogasari Kodalu' in draft mode, so how did it get directly published?? Gujarat Samachar (talk) 21:08, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I have moved it to Draft:Gadasari_Atta_Sogasari_Kodalu for you. You created it in the main encyclopedia. qcne (talk) 21:10, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Is that possible without review published? Gujarat Samachar (talk) 21:12, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Yes, you may directly create articles instead of via Draft. But I would strongly advice you do not until you have more experience. If that new article had been seen it would likely have been sent to draft / deleted as not yet meeting our criteria for inclusion for a new article. qcne (talk) 21:14, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

How to create a good article to meet Wikipedia's criteria? Gujarat Samachar (talk) 21:18, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

An article on Wikipedia requires evidence that the subject meet's Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. It requires multiple published secondary sources that:

• provide significant coverage: discuss the subject in detail, not just brief mentions or routine announcements;
• are reliable: from reputable outlets with editorial oversight;
• are independent: not connected to the subject, such as press releases, the subject's own website, or sponsored content.

You should summarize in your own words a range of independent, reliable, published sources that discuss the subject. qcne (talk) 21:21, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Boss why is the replay space so short? I am not understanding because the grammar format and there is no tense match for understanding..Please explain another way😮‍💨 Gujarat Samachar (talk) 21:26, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't understand your question. Please could you rephrase it..? qcne (talk) 21:29, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I am saying this every time replies are being made, why is this space getting reduced, I myself am not able to understand the guidelines explained by you Gujarat Samachar (talk) 21:32, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Every reply gets tabbed over one further to the right in order to make it clear who's responding to what. If you want to fix that issue, respond to their first comment on this thread. But it should be readable either way, I think. LieutenantZipp (talk) 21:40, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

@Gujarat Samachar That's how threading on Wikipedia works. Please try reading this simpler overview of our guidelines: Wikipedia:Everything you need to know. qcne (talk) 22:14, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Gujarat Samachar, the use of colons above has been proper, but you may sometimes wish to use Template:Od, just as I have done for this comment. (It means something like "Although standard etiquette would require this comment to have a large left-hand margin, I thought you readers might prefer this move to the left and the resulting longer line width".) As for Draft:Gadasari Atta Sogasari Kodalu, I don't see any demonstration of how Gadasari Atta Sogasari Kodalu is notable. Was it critically or commercially successful? (Or indeed was it newsworthily unsuccessful?) Success (or lack thereof) aside, did/do film critics/historians write anything perceptive about it? Et cetera. -- Hoary (talk) 01:39, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

doubt

is the closed DPRK embassy in Nepal notable for Wikipedia TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 04:09, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Who has published stories about it? How big are the stories? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 04:16, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Easier to expand existing text at Nepal–North Korea relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and split off any relevant info than to create an article de novo. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 04:41, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Okay thanks TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 04:54, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Inline version of {grammar}?

Hi, I looked over the inline maintenance tags, I couldn't find one that helps. I want to tag Saipem_7000#Incident_in_Rotterdam with a note to fix the grammar. It's just one sentence which is wrong but it is wrong such that I cannot fix it without interpreting a meaning into it which is not necessarily clear.

Correct me if I am wrong, but "grammar" is an article tag and should be at the top to apply to the whole article, but I can't find a similar version that I can apply only to a little piece.

Thanks RustyOldShip (talk) 08:20, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

{{grammar inline}} Athanelar (talk) 09:28, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

how to publish page on WIKI?

I created the page and cannot find how to send it for approval to make it public. It is a DRAFT: Yuliya Alagir. Help Please! ArtEnthusiast369 (talk) 18:58, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello @ArtEnthusiast369. I have added a template which will allow you to submit the draft once it is ready. It will be sent to WP:AFC reviewers where it will then be checked for quality control. toby ^{(t)(c)(rw)(omo)} 19:06, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you!!! Done! ArtEnthusiast369 (talk) 22:02, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@ArtEnthusiast369 "...allowing viewers to experience emotional resonance..." What does that mean? David10244 (talk) 10:23, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Help reviewing draft biography of Nishi Chawla

I’ve prepared a draft biography of Nishi Chawla, an Indian-American novelist, playwright, poet, and filmmaker whose work has been featured by the Library of Congress, BroadwayWorld, and American Kahani. I’d greatly appreciate guidance and review from experienced editors. Kindnessloveandcompassionmercy (talk) 07:08, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

User:Kindnessloveandcompassionmercy/sandbox contains a draft about Nishi Chawla, but one that doesn't indicate which assertion within the draft may be found in which source. These sources must of course be reliable, and for most kinds of assertion they must be independent of Nishi Chawla (and thus of course they may not be interviews). Please see WP:42. When you've added appropriate references, and removed material for which you can't find such references, submit the draft for review. -- Hoary (talk) 07:22, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I think Nishi Chawla is a fairly recent and frequent attempt at promotion. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 07:47, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Draft:Nishi Chawla shows that it has been deleted 4 separate times and is creation-protected

Nishi Chawla likewise was deleted once (in 2017!) for G11 Athanelar (talk) 09:32, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Silly me, not having thought of that possibility. Better just forget it, Kindnessloveandcompassionmercy, unless perhaps you can produce a draft that's stunningly good. (Anything short of stunningly good would just be a waste of people's time, your time included.) -- Hoary (talk) 11:20, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Qual país maior

qual país maior ~2026-47812-9 (talk) 13:37, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

List of countries and dependencies by area or List of countries and dependencies by population. Rjjiii (ii) (talk) 14:34, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Can someone please help me

I have collected the sources and references. Can any editor help me to complete this draft , as I am busy studying for my final exams. The sources are in the draft.

Draft:Samuel Chang Jae-on. TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 06:30, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi TheGreatEditor024. For the most part, there are WP:NODEADLINES when it comes to most things you can do on Wikipedia. There's no specific time period in which a draft needs to approved; so, you're free to work on it as much as you want or as little as you want pretty much whenever you want. The only thing you really need to worry about is abandoning it (i.e., not editing it in any way) for six months or more because then there's a possibility it could end up be deleted; even if that were to happen, though, you can request that it be restored. So, go study and do whatever else you need to do to pass your exams because your draft and Wikipedia will almost certainly still be here when you're ready to come back. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:44, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I know , but I am interested in this article because I wrote the article on the KCA and I wanted another article on the KCA's president but I have no time. TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 06:50, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Your "draft" is pretty much nothing more than a list of links to possible sources. What your asking is really no different than dumping all of the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle into a pile on a table, and then asking someone else to put the puzzle together for you. Part of the fun of article creation is digging around for sources about subjects that interest you, reading and assessing those sources, and then summarizing what they say in your own words until what you've done becomes an article. Wikipedia has all the time in the world for such an article to be written and anyone can do so at anytime as long as the subject is considered Wikipedia:Notable.

Are you, by chance, trying to create this article as part of some school project or assignment? Just asking out of curiosity because students often try to create articles as part of some class assignment, and they often ask questions like this when they running up against some type of class-related deadline. From your contribution's history, it looks like you're also currently working on a couple of other drafts. So, it's not clear why you need someone to write this one for you when you seem capable of doing so yourself. Your draft on Korean Catholic Association was actually accepted by a Articles for Creation reviewer; so, you're certainly capable of developing a draft into a proper Wikipedia article. Just take your time with this draft and work on it when you can, and most likely you eventually develop it into a proper Wikipedia article just like you did before. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:27, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Nope, I am an Indian and we don't study anything related to North Korea.

Well, I can do it myself but the issue is that my parents won't allow me use my laptop for more than an hour. TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 09:23, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Well I suggest you do little edits every day, and slowly build it up into a proper article. Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 11:51, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I guess I can try that. Thank you. TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 16:15, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Samuel is notable as he is the president of the Korean Catholic Association, former president of North Korean red cross etc. TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 09:24, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

TheGreatEditor024, please read and digest WP:PERSON. -- Hoary (talk) 12:18, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Okay, Thanks for the link. TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 16:14, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Draft:SCS Global Services - declined

Hello — I’m looking for guidance on how best to demonstrate organizational notability for a company article that was recently declined at AfC. The draft concerns SCS Global Services, a third-party certification and standards organization founded in 1984. The company has operated continuously for more than four decades and today employs approximately 500 people globally, according to company disclosures.

The article includes independent secondary coverage from sources such as The New York Times and Los Angeles Times (late-1980s reporting on food safety and pesticide residue testing programs), U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Energy publications (environmental labeling and life-cycle assessment), IEEE conference proceedings (methodological work in LCA), and independent trade and financial publications such as Environmental Finance. Much of the historical coverage relates to the organization’s early role in third-party food safety and certification efforts, particularly produce testing programs in the 1980s. I want to be sure I’m presenting this independent coverage in a way that clearly aligns with WP:ORGDEPTH / WP:CORPDEPTH expectations.

Would reviewers generally prefer to see this type of coverage foregrounded more explicitly (for example, via a short “coverage” or “reception” subsection, or a more concise history that highlights independent media discussion)? Any guidance on how to revise before resubmitting would be appreciated. Thank you. Prroc (talk) 16:00, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

@Prroc Pease do not ask the same question at multiple fora. This is WP:FORUMSHOPPING, and is deprecated. This has been answered already at WP:AFCHD. As a self declared paid editor your remuneration is, in a great part, to be used to learn independently how to work here. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 16:16, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I am new to this and was not intending to "forum shop." Thank you for the feedback. Prroc (talk) 16:25, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Javed Jaaferi colors telly Indian awards profile from April to Whole 4 years

Unni mukundan 2019 outside traditional house in whole sleeve white t shirt profile back ~2026-38011-5 (talk) 16:55, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

This question is unintelligible. If you can't write English well enough to be understandable, you should edit the Wikipedia for your native language. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 17:27, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

It could also be a child. Someone667 (talk) 21:40, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Given some of the words used, I'm sceptical that it's a child; I'm more inclined to think it's an en-1 or -2 reader. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 08:00, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Could be both, in my opinion none of those words seem to advanced for a small child (so under the age of 5, although I would assume at 4-5 you would be able to read and write properly but that doesn’t always happen, or a foreign child/non-native speaker) Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 09:14, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Ok so I tried making sense of it and what they might be saying is "Javed Jaaferi was featured in a Colors TV Indian awards profile spanning from April and continuing over the next four years, while Unni Mukundan was seen in 2019 outside a traditional house, photographed from the back, wearing a plain white full-sleeve T-shirt." I dont how this relates to wikipedia though. Someone667 (talk) 22:18, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I assume he wants an article to be written about Jaaferi Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 10:20, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

children are also smart

TrueMoriarty Talk | Contribs 16:48, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Draft declined - advice much welcome please

Had this draft declined (although I used multilaw, which has a page, as a standard). I'd so very much welcome advice, feel I've let the team at MI down :(

I do have other sources but didn't use them as I tried to keep it simple (other sources: legal 500, Edinburgh Chambers, Global leader, and LK law for example), was this my mistake and please advise next steps. Thanking you in advance :) PaletteDrift (talk) 15:46, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

@PaletteDrift First, read WP:BOSS and show it to your team. Company articles are some of the hardest to create, especially with a COI. You will also have to declare your WP:COI and WP:PAID if you wish to continue. HurricaneZeta^C 15:48, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the guidance, really appreciated. Understood on WP:BOSS and COI. For transparency: I do paid social media work for Mackrell International, though I’m not paid specifically for Wikipedia editing. I’ll add the relevant COI/paid disclosure and will focus on strengthening the draft with independent, in-depth reliable sources before resubmitting :) PaletteDrift (talk) 15:57, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

@PaletteDrift please do not confuse Wikipedia with social media. Social media requires inconsequential blether. Wikipedia requires well cites facts 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 16:18, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

A big part of strengthening that kind of draft is switching your point of view as a writer so that you're refusing to tell your client's version of the information at all - completely discarding their copy, and replacing it with what's already published about them in reliable publicly-available sources. Using the public sources as supplements isn't enough. This is a major reason why COI editing is hard. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 17:12, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Moshe Reuven

Hello, I am a new Wikipedia editor seeking guidance regarding the article for Moshe Reuven. I have disclosed my conflict of interest (the subject is a personal friend) and posted a message on the article's talk page requesting assistance with removing several maintenance tags that appear to no longer apply to the current version of the article.

I've encountered some challenges working with one of the editors monitoring this page, who has questioned whether I am a paid editor. To be clear: I am not receiving any compensation for this work. This same editor cleaned up all the promotional content and heavily edited the page, but yet did not remove the tags. I feel like she may have some kind of beef with the subject. It doesn't make sense to correct all the issues, yet still leave the tags up and when someone asks about their removals she attacks them for being paid editor and not following Wikipedia policies. I disclosed my COI in the talk page of the subject, yet she accuses me of not properly disclosed my COI. But from what I can see I have disclosed it correctly.

I would appreciate guidance on the proper procedure regarding the COI disclosers and for addressing these tags, or if appropriate, assistance in having them removed. The tags are no longer relevant for the following reasons:

• Multiple editors have substantially improved the article since the tags were added, and any previously problematic paid editing content has been replaced
• The promotional content issues have been resolved
• The reference bombing concerns have been addressed, with the possible exception of Reference [12], which could be removed if necessary

Any advice or assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Ggreenblue (talk) 23:13, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Welcome! One thing in your message here that stands out (to me anyway) is that the three items you wrote as bullet points, explaining what's finished so far, are (for you as a COI editor) not your decisions to make. Many COI editors say "this is no longer promotional" in cases when something is definitely still promotional, and so on.

About the disclosure, please edit the source of your own user page and type {{UserboxCOI|1=Moshe Reuven}}, then click "Publish page..." or "Publish changes...".

(Note: include all the curly brackets but not the comma.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 23:48, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

@TooManyFingers Based on my understanding of Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#howtodisclose, there are three methods to disclose COI. I've already used method 1 on the TALK page of the subject, Ggreenblue (talk) 16:54, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I apologize - I did look, and I honestly didn't find it. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 17:24, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Your CoI seems to be properly disclosed to me, and we don't require anything more than you have already done, in that regard. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:07, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. Ggreenblue (talk) 16:53, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

svg image as an icon

{{Flagicon}} in this template i want to insert the image File:Proposed Flag of Islamabad Capital Territory.svg so that it appears as an icon in the template, is that possible? Really want to know. Tribol (talk) 17:11, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello @Tribol, and welcome to the Teahouse! You would be better off with Template:Flagicon image which allows you to put your own image in and have it automatically resized. That would look something like this: , whose wikitext is {{Flagicon image|Proposed Flag of Islamabad Capital Territory.svg}}. The normal flagicon template does not allow you to use custom flags. Happy editing! VidanaliK (talk to me) 17:47, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you very much, i really appreciate your consideration. Tribol (talk) 17:51, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

using svg as icon in template

{{Flagicon}} in this template i want to insert the image File:Proposed Flag of Islamabad Capital Territory.svg so that it appears as an icon in the template, is that possible? Tribol (talk) 11:54, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Tribol, and welcome to the Teahouse. You might get somebody here who knows the answer to that, but I think you're more likely to if you ask at Template Talk:Flagicon. ColinFine (talk) 17:55, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Goldenhar Syndrome new information/ research

Hi,

Leeds Beckett University and I have spent a long time researching and writing a journal article about Goldenhar Syndrome (GS)and we created a new parent’s guide to Goldenhar Syndrome. Both of these have been published, they are in libraries and currently being used hospitals and the guide was also shown on BBC news last summer. We have open access on both publications. The GS community have said it would be great if we could get these on Wikipedia so we can help others. There is not that much research out there on GS so we think it will help.

Shall I send you the links? Please can you advise me what I need to do.

Kind regards Rebecca RHitchen (talk) 12:55, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Well you do have a COI because you helped create the source, it can be used if uninvolved editors review it and see whether it is fit for inclusion Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 13:03, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi Mwen,

Okay great, thank you. So what should I do next? Should I send the publication links to you? RHitchen (talk) 13:13, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

If you can post the links to the relevant publication here and on Talk:Goldenhar syndrome that would be great. Interested editors could then use the information to expand the article. Athanelar (talk) 13:23, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

The relevant policies are WP:SELFCITE (which says you can cite your own publications, within reason) and WP:MEDRES (particularly stringent criteria for medical topics).

For more specialist advice, particularly on the latter policy, ask on WT:WikiProject Medicine. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:07, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @RHitchen, and welcome to the Teahouse.

I'm afraid that Wikipedia does not publish original research, however important or worthy. Once there are several sources about it that are wholly unconnected with your and your team, then an article might be possible. But while yours is the only published source, then it does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability (which is better thought of as "has been noted" rather than "should be noted"). ColinFine (talk) 17:59, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I think OP is asking if it can be used in an existing article about Goldenhar Syndrome, not an entire article about the journal publication. VidanaliK (talk to me) 18:01, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

New Year's happy birthday world 🌎 you 2026

Hello! Editors and communities of the English Wikipedia! Today is a great day, New Year's Day is widely celebrated on Wikipedia, and perhaps all over the world, as a global holiday! Never tire of developing and protecting Wikipedia! We wish you all a happy New Year 2026! We appreciate every edit!😍 Thanks! (Iluziya7 (talk) 17:00, 31 December 2025 (UTC))

@Iluziya7: Happy New Year! 2026 will mark Wikipedia's 25th anniversary! Yup, a quarter of a century of existence, I don't think Jimmy Wales ever thought that this project would last past its first year, let alone 25 years. Let's hope that this 25th year of Wikipedia's existence will be a great one!!! _{S.G. (They/Them) (Talk) (Contributions)} 17:03, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

@SignedInteger. Oh, so be it! I believe Wikipedia will last forever! (Iluziya7 (talk) 17:07, 31 December 2025 (UTC))

Me too! 72011copperfan2 (talk) 19:06, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

Wait, its been 25 years since this has started? Guess I chose the right time to join.

(happy early new year) Starry~~(Starlet147) 02:07, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

lol Whyiseverythingalreadyused (t · c · he/him) 02:08, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

@Whyiseverythingalreadyused. Thank you, thank you, and may you be blessed! Now 2026 has arrived! (Iluziya7 (talk) 04:21, 1 January 2026 (UTC))

You too lol

(It was already 2026 for me when I said that) Whyiseverythingalreadyused (t · c · he/him) 04:22, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

abit late but you too! Someone667 (talk) 22:06, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Me to! 72011copperfan2 (talk) 02:09, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

@72011copperfan2, @SignedInteger, @Starlet147, @Whyiseverythingalreadyused: We appreciate your contribution to Wikipedia! Thank you. Today is the first day of 2026, January 1st. Can you imagine? Let's all imagine, this gives me some great motivation, great, may this year be a good one for you on Wikipedia and in life! Good luck to you all! Thank you! 🌍👋 (04:24, 1 January 2026 (UTC)) Iluziya7 (talk) 04:24, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

2026! 72011copperfan2 (talk) 14:52, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

@72011copperfan2. Thanks! (Iluziya7 (talk) 15:12, 1 January 2026 (UTC))

@Starlet147. Okey, Thanks, 2026 New Year's happy (Iluziya7 (talk) 04:20, 1 January 2026 (UTC))

Happy New Year all! Ajron Bach (talk) 08:09, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm a little late but happy new year! DominikTuazon (talk) 17:43, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

God Bless /) Ajron Bach (talk) 21:13, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

Welp, 1 week and 2 days passed since. Versions111 (talk • contribs) 02:28, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

If those 9 days were bad, there are still 356 days to work to compensate for that, and to end up with a positive year "score" 😁 ~2025-41312-06 (talk) 02:43, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

Hahaha! Well, yes, there is mate! Let’s make it a good one for the Wiki. Ajron Bach (talk) 07:48, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

Belated happy new year ;-) — SimmeD (talk) 08:07, 10 January 213y713g2yyuy432yu432uyg3u4y23gyu4 (UTC)

Next up is Burn’s Night if your Scottish. Ajron Bach (talk) 08:16, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

Same to you. Cheers! DominikTuazon (talk) 22:21, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

HAPPY NEW YEAR ~2026-16002 (talk) 13:20, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

It's Jan 12, and people are still celebrating. Forgive me if it's timezones, but wow. Not complaining, though. Starry~~(Starlet147) 13:45, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia is 25 years old! Although I’ve only started editing I’ve been using Wikipedia since I was 12 2021. It’s not perfect but it’s GOOD ANOUGH! Thank you to everyone who keeps it great. Thank you! Ajron Bach (talk) 16:13, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Happy new year to you too! ♥️ Zycone (talk) 08:26, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Happy new year to everyone. Just as if Wikipedia turned 25 years old already. ~2026-34318-9 (talk) 13:38, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

you posted that at 5:00pm on New Year's Eve, not New Year's Day. IOFun2 (talk) 20:25, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Time zones exist you know. Someone667 (talk) 21:37, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Im aware IOFun2 (talk) 18:13, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

A question before I even start

I am considering creating a draft page for the Nebraska Shakespeare Festival. I have gotten a few sources so I think it meets notability requirements, but I want to run it by you because I'm not sure whether it meets notability reqs and whether it's even eligible since it ceased operations in 2022. Here are the sources:

• Theatre Arts Guild of Omaha
• Omaha World Herald (paywalled)
• Internet Shakespeare
• University of Nebraska Archives
  

Thanks in advance! --DollarStoreBa'al^Converse 14:31, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Edit: I have found that the University of Nebraska was a primary funder of the festival and as such is not an independent source. Please discard. --DollarStoreBa'al^Converse 14:37, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

... whether it's even eligible since it ceased operations in 2022 ...

Mr. Shakespeare himself ceased operations in 1616, and everyone really does agree that he should still have an article. :)

If the Nebraska Shakespeare Festival had fizzled out after half a season because no one showed up, I might say why bother - but obviously that's not the case. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 15:49, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Would the sources provided be enough to meet WP:NCORP? Also, here's another:

ProPublica --DollarStoreBa'al^Converse 18:51, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

How do I add multiple references to the same cited work

Hi -- little novice problem here -- I want to add multiple references to one cited work in the revision I am doing to William Chappell (dancer) -- when I try to add the new page reference my previous page reference is over written -- how do I add an op.cit. -- does Wikipedia have a way of doing this ?? Many thanks Coejonathan (talk) 17:57, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

@Coejonathan to use repeated citations, start your ref like this <ref name="example">{{cite book|last=example |first=example |title=Example |publisher=example University Press |year=2100 |page=123}}</ref>

and in sentences that you want to use the same ref use <ref name="example"/> for full guidance please see Repeated citations CONFUSED SPIRIT(Thilio).Talk 18:22, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

When I do this, I just go into the visual editor and then copy and paste. --DollarStoreBa'al^Converse 19:08, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Hartford Medical Society

I am trying to update the entry but cannot figure out how to change the citations HMS President (talk) 20:34, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @HMS President, and welcome to the Teahouse.

First, I will observe that if "HMS President" means that you are president of the Hartford Medical Society, then you have a conflict of interest (please read that link) and should not be editing the article directly - you are welcome to make edit requests, but somebody unconnected should make the decision about such edits.

Second, role accounts are not permitted. All editor accounts are personal, and may not be shared; and their names must not suggest that they represent an organisation. Since you have only just created the account, it would be easiest (rather than going through the process of renaming) if you simply abandoned that account and created a new one. A name like "(your name) at HMS" would be acceptable - or you can use a pseudonym (I am relatively rare in using my own name).

Finally, to get to your question: references are displayed in the "Reference" section, but they are defined at the point in the text where they are (first) cited; so to edit a citation, you edit the paragraph or section where the little number appears. ColinFine (talk) 20:54, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Redirect

Hello - I've tried to be bold & delete a redirect, but don't really know what I'm doing. I also tried to list this as a technical request to change the redirect, but also couldn't do that. 'Sarah Hillary' redirected to Sarah Hilary. I thought this was unnecessary, as Sarah Hillary is notable in her own right and has a page. A hatnote on both pages, pointing to the other is what is needed here (and I'll do this in due course). Could someone please look at the redirect. Thank you. Blackballnz (talk) 22:59, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Sarah Hillary should not and does not redirect to Sarah Hilary; each article had a hatnote when I first saw it, but as this hatnote seemed the least helpful among the options available, I changed it to something I think is more helpful. -- Hoary (talk) 00:07, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

PS However, Sara Hillary redirects to Sarah Hilary. This is thanks to Roman Spinner, who commented Redirecting main title header delineating the appellation of English crime novelist, Sara Hillary, to its pen name form, Sarah Hilary. If you find this comment as opaque as I do, Blackballnz, and/or if you have a question about the redirect, better ask Roman Spinner. -- Hoary (talk) 00:23, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@Blackballnz I did look at the technical request and moved Sarah Hillary (art conservator) to Sarah Hillary (thanks for finding that) - see this edit summary. Sara Hillary also should not redirect there, and it doesn't look like either of the Sarahs have their names spelled alternatively as Sara, so maybe WP:RFD? HurricaneZeta^C 00:33, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you both. Blackballnz (talk) 00:48, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Glitch

I can't edit my talk page nor reply. TrueMoriarty Talk | Contribs 16:43, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

On mobile, I've had trouble replying. I switched to desktop view to make this reply. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:48, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

It doesn't look like your edit is being disallowed, as your talk page is unprotected and there's nothing in the edit filter. MetalBreaksAndBends (talk) 16:52, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

A black popup appeared when I tried to reply on your test message. When I tried to edit the page as whole, it kind of started to shake violently.

TrueMoriarty Talk | Contribs 16:55, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

That is truly strange. How are you accessing the site and do you have any user scripts or gadgets enabled? MetalBreaksAndBends (talk) 16:58, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I have twinkle enabled. I tried to reply to the section above the test one but I failed so I wrote the reply in another section and coypasted it. I checked now and noticed the black popup appearing for me in talk pages of other articles but not all.

TrueMoriarty Talk | Contribs 17:02, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I think that there might be some kind of lag reduction thing going on. Is it ok if I archive some of the old messages on your talk page? MetalBreaksAndBends (talk) 17:04, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Sure. I would very grateful.

TrueMoriarty Talk | Contribs 17:06, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

This mobile reply seems to be working. The problem appears to be maybe intermittent and involve a lag, [speculation alert] as if something somewhere was overloaded and barely keeping up. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 17:01, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

This is the message in the black popup: Could not find the comment you're replying to on the page. It might have been deleted or moved to another page.

TrueMoriarty Talk | Contribs 17:04, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I’m getting the same glitch Mikewem (talk) 18:42, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

It’s only coming up when I try to reply to the initial message in any thread. It seems I can reply to replies Mikewem (talk) 18:45, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

is it on your personal talk page? MetalBreaksAndBends (talk) 18:58, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I’m getting the glitch message on every initial comment on every thread on every talk page Mikewem (talk) 19:12, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I think thats a different glitch, Moriarty's issue was only on their talk page, and we just solved it by archiving some messages. MetalBreaksAndBends (talk) 19:17, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Moriarty replied to a reply, not to your initial comment in the thread Mikewem (talk) 19:30, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

This is a bug with a change to heading markup on mobile. More details on the village pump. DLynch (WMF) (talk) 21:50, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

This should be fixed now. DLynch (WMF) (talk) 22:20, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

It is fixed now. Thank you! Mikewem (talk) 03:13, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

TV Series draft

Are the sources on this TV series draft: enough for main space?

Draft:What Lies Beneath (TV series) Miamiwin (talk) 02:35, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Some of the sources look good, but you most likely can't use Youtube or X, depending on what you're adding. Guz13 (talk) 02:48, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@Miamiwin Here's an unofficial test: If you were limited to just three sources, and all you were allowed to do was paste the content from those three sources into a blank page - not adding one word - would you be able to say "I guess this will do, I'm hitting the Submit button"? (Of course that would be massive copyright violation - but this is just a test of your sources, not writing advice.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:54, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Page of Reiki has inaccuracies

First off, as a retired journalist, I love working on Wikipedia articles and contributing to this community! I would love to edit a couple of entries that I see errors in, but some are autoprotected. I have made 10 edits now. Do I need to edit more? Or is there a way I can gain access to make adjustments? Reiki. Thank you! Jennifer Jalsever (talk) 15:18, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

It looks like you're auto confirmed, so you should be able to edit it. MetalBreaksAndBends (talk) 15:26, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

It's a difficult page to edit in that many many reikists want to add badly sourced or unsourced stuff that just isn't acceptable in an encyclopeadia article. be very certain that the sources you use comply with our requirements.

On the other hand, lurkers will be sure to help you . - Walter Ego 15:37, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Jalsever, and welcome to the Teahouse.

To add to what others have said: yes, you now have the technical ability to edit that article. That doesn't necessarily mean that it is a good idea for you to do so directly. Make sure you understand what are reliable sources, and if what you are talking about might in any way be construed as medical information, be aware that we have a tighter set of criteria for reliability of sources on medical subjects: WP:MEDRS.

If you are not certain of the reliability of your sources, it might be better to discuss your proposed changes on the article's talk page first, rather than going ahead and editing directly. ColinFine (talk) 16:41, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Ok thank you! Well, I understand that Reiki is a spiritual practice but it is not necessarily a medical treatment. I think that the terms "psuedoscience" is very biased and not at all accurate to the experience. We could call all spiritual practices psuedoscience. I would cite this reputable publication The Atlantic which explored the practice, and concluded that top tier medical institutions are embracing the practice without understanding how it works. It just does. Also https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/04/reiki-cant-possibly-work-so-why-does-it/606808/

Also, I would reference this organization as a source https://iarp.org/ and this one, https://www.reikiassociation.net/ and this one, https://www.reiki.org/ to help people understand the practice from people who are practice it and understand it, versus citing skeptics on the outside. I have personally experienced reiki and it's incredibly powerful, so I would hate to discourage people from trying it to ease anxiety and improving overall wellbeing.

Fine to source skeptics, but the entire post is written from that point of view. I worked as a journalist for top publications including Fortune Magazine and NBC for decades, and I understand the need for a balanced perspective. I also understand credible sources.

Would it be okay if I went in and offered this perspective and then put it to the community to ensure it's fair and balnced? Jalsever (talk) 16:58, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

You can try to discuss changes, but our articles are largely sourced by reliable, independent sources, especially when we're sourcing facts that could possibly be disputed. WP:PRIMARY sources have a limited usage, far more limited than what you appear to desire. And yes, the very high standards of WP:MEDRS applies here. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 17:11, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

The kind of balance of the newspapers, we call it WP:FALSEBALANCE. tgeorgescu (talk) 17:21, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I have personally experienced reiki and it's incredibly powerful, so I would hate to discourage people from trying it to ease anxiety and improving overall wellbeing.

What you're doing then falls somewhere inbetween promotion and righting great wrongs and I would suggest that yout petsonal experience and bias here probably means you had better edit in a different topic area.

Wikipedia is not journalism. We do not aim to create a 'balanced perspective.' We represent what the preponderance of sources on a topic say; see WP:WEIGHT. If the majority of discourse and scholarship about Reiki is from a skeptical perspective, then Wikipedia will reflect that. If the sources describe reiki as a pseudoscience, then Wikipedia describes it as a pseudoscience. To give undue weight to a pro-Reiki perspective which is not reflected in the breadth of the sources, or to avoid terms like 'pseudoscience' even if the sources use it, would be to create a WP:FALSEBALANCE. Athanelar (talk) 17:35, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@Jalsever A word like "pseudoscience" is often added to an article after a long discussion among many editors, and is sometimes added after an RFC on that exact word. This represents "consensus". If you want to remove that word, you should start a discussion on the article's talk page first. And there may very well be existing discussion already there about the word; I haven't looked, but don't blindly remove the word. David10244 (talk) 17:57, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

to ease anxiety and improving overall wellbeing is a medical claim, by our book. tgeorgescu (talk) 18:12, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

We could call all spiritual practices psuedoscience This is an accurate statement. Spiritual practices that claim to have medical benefits not verified by scientific experiments are called pseudosciences. Words have meanings. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 18:46, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, saying it's "not necessarily a medical treatment" is SO close to admitting it's pseudoscience that there's no real difference between the two.

Reiki has been around for many years, leaving no excuses for anyone who wants to just say "studies are inconclusive" or that sort of thing.

If someone had invented a machine a hundred years ago, and if today's advocates for that machine were still saying "scientific studies of whether it does anything are inconclusive", it would be easy to understand what the real problem was. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 18:47, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

A note: I've experienced it, and here's my non-certified analysis of why it "works": kind, gentle, respectful attention from another human is a good thing, and Reiki provides a plausible reason for that to happen at a time when it otherwise might not. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 20:01, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

There is a growing body of research that while no scientific explanation on how it works, Reiki as better than placebo for anxiety, overall wellbeing and reduced pain, and there are dozens of hospitals, including Yale, Harvard and Cleveland Clinic that offer it as a complementary therapy. This is documented with several 2024 and 2025 meta analysis of studies of reiki in these benefits, not for "curing" medical ailments. Wikipedia has a responsibility to offer comprehensive pages of information, versus the biased opinions of people who have no experience or knowledge in the area. I would also question why some individuals or celebrities or companies are allowed to write and edit their own Wikipedia pages? Trust is eroding for all sources of information in the world today, and this is an opportunity Wikipedia to remain a reliable source of information from all sides of a particular topic. Jalsever (talk) 02:53, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

We operate on verifiability; you have to provide the studies. MetalBreaksAndBends (talk) 03:07, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Of course! I understand the importance of legitimate sources, and I have cited all of the studies and their sources, ie. PubMed as well as the American Health Association etc. Jalsever (talk) 03:20, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

rather the American Hospital Association I mean. Jalsever (talk) 03:22, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

https://www.nature.com/articles/526295a argues that Reiki works, but not in the way most people think. I.e. it is used for soothing nervous patients. tgeorgescu (talk) 06:05, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

definitely that's the whole point. It is for soothing, overall wellbeing. It's not saying it's curing cancer and never promises to cure anything. It's used as a complementary therapy. Can we put talk therapy under the same microscope? Can we prove that it scientifically works? Or do you say it subjectively works, depending on the circumstance, the people, etc.? But you don't call therapists fraudulent. Same with yoga, meditation, breathwork, etc. You're not holding those up to the scientific method. They're soothing and not the same for everyone. Jalsever (talk) 20:31, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@Jalsever What you say may be true, but you still can't delete the word "pseudoscience" from the article, because of the consensus issue that I pointed out just above... plus, what other experienced editors are telling you. David10244 (talk) 08:23, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

There are countless definitions across the web and in major publications and on medical websites, including pubmed, that do not use "psuedoscience" word. That is an inherently biased word used by skeptics. And it's inaccurate because reiki and its practitioners do not portend to be science-based. It's a spiritual healing technique passed down for hundreds of years. Even the Cleveland Clinic does not use that word or your definition.

My question to the Tea House and the editors here at Wikipedia: What is the resistance for creating a page that is balanced? Why are you so against giving any credibility to the technique just because the mechanisms are not understood? Even in the face of recent (2024 and 2025) meta analysis data that shows it does work, it's growing in acceptance among the overall population and among major hospitals as a "complementary therapy" to make people feel better-- not to cure them.

Are you letting your own biases dictate this page? If so, I'm concerned about all of Wikipedia and the information in general if a handful of people are determining what kind of information is out there on certain topics. I am not the only person who has brought this page to the attention of Wikipedia and suggested changes, but there is a resistance to changing. Jalsever (talk) 15:59, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

If you have off wiki evidence that celebrities and companies are editing the articles about themselves and have not disclosed this as required by WP:COI and WP:PAID, please see WP:REPORTPAID for how you can provide that evidence.

You misunderstand what we do here- Wikipedia is not journalism, it is a content aggregator. You've already been pointed to WP:FALSEBALANCE. We do not create a balance when the prepondereance of reliable sources do not. We're not here to give credibility to anything. One is free to read an article and disagree with everything presented. This is not a problem as long as the sources are accurately summarized.

Yes, we're only as good as the people who choose to help us. You're welcome to help, but you need to abide by policies and consensus. 331dot (talk) 16:21, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

As for the page having two sets of rules, it doesn't: sources representing mainstream scientific thought have precedence over mysticism and fringe science. That should be a fairly simple rule to comprehend and abide by.
— User:Kww

Quoted by tgeorgescu (talk) 16:35, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

But the site is leaving out the vast majority of content that is in the mainstream, and it is aggregating only the skeptical point of view, which may have been the preponderance of information in 2008 but in the last decade or so, it's changed. I abide by policies and consensus. I'm just skeptical by the consensus and the resistance to updating information to reflect the true picture of content out there.

In addition, I know businesses will write their own wikipedia pages. I edited one for you all, and it was submitted by the company itself. I also saw a post on this platform that someone was suggesting that celebrities are editing their own wikipedia pages. I have not investigated this. But I'm curious to know why there's a labeling of certain pages and not looking at updating information.

Is this something that could be updated? Jalsever (talk) 17:54, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

For medical topics on Wikipedia, "the mainstream" means only mainstream medicine's reliable publications, according to WP:MEDRS. It has nothing to do with mainstream journalism as a whole.

And when any health claim is made in an article, then the article is automatically a medical topic. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 20:49, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@Jalsever "In addition, I know businesses will write their own wikipedia pages. I edited one for you all, and it was submitted by the company itself. I also saw a post on this platform that someone was suggesting that celebrities are editing their own wikipedia pages. I have not investigated this. But I'm curious to know why there's a labeling of certain pages and not looking at updating information.

Is this something that could be updated?"

Most of that is a separate issue from Reiki, and you should start that as a new topic. I don't know what you mean by "labeling of certain pages", unless you are talking about medical-related articles and their standards for sourcing. We DO look at updating information when the sourcing meets the standards that were developed by consensus. David10244 (talk) 04:25, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious/correlation/1133_the-distance-between-saturn-and-the-sun_correlates-with_customer-satisfaction-with-hp

https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious/correlation/2733_the-distance-between-jupiter-and-the-sun_correlates-with_the-number-of-secretaries-in-alaska

In other words, Statistical hypothesis test#Courtroom trial measures how unlikely it is to get such results by mere chance. A statistical significant effect of Reiki never proves Reiki is real. In other words, statistics never proves it is impossible to get significant effects due to mere chance. tgeorgescu (talk) 20:18, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

https://manhattan.institute/article/new-study-finds-political-bias-embedded-in-wikipedia-articles Jalsever (talk) 20:25, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

What has Reiki to do with politics? I'm an adept of Reagan and Thatcher.

I also have a systematic review: Hauptmann, M.; Kutschan, S.; Hübner, J.; Dörfler, J. (2023). "Bioenergy therapies as a complementary treatment: a systematic review to evaluate the efficacy of bioenergy therapies in relieving treatment toxicities in patients with cancer". Journal of Cancer Research and Clinical Oncology. 149 (6): 2607–2619. doi:10.1007/s00432-022-04362-x. ISSN 1432-1335. PMC 10129966. PMID 36166091. Retrieved 20 January 2026. tgeorgescu (talk) 20:31, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

I am letting go now of what I have control over. I have offered suggested edits that represent the updated data and information on the practice. You all do with it what you will. I'm bowing out now. Appreciated the opportunity. Jalsever (talk) 20:55, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

It's fine for a company representative to submit a draft for a review by an independent editor as long as they have openly identified themselves as a company representative per the Terms of Use(see WP:PAID). Again, if you have off wiki evidence that an article was written by a company representative that failed to disclose their status as required, we want to know via WP:REPORTPAID. 331dot (talk) 21:00, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Consider: "While I was striking that person with a stick, I was thinking bad thoughts; it was my bad thoughts that caused his injuries".

It shows exactly the same faulty reasoning as "While I was kindly paying attention to that person and gently touching him, I was thinking Reiki thoughts; it was my Reiki thoughts that caused him to feel better". TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 21:30, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@TooManyFingers Your comment gave me a mental image of going to a doctor and having him beat me with a stick while thinking kind thoughts. I'm not sure whether that would cure me, or make me worse... David10244 (talk) 10:14, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Where do I ask questions at Commons?

I'm not exactly sure where to ask questions about this, OliviaRigby (talk) 05:03, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello @OliviaRigby. I believe Commons:Help desk is what you're looking for. toby ^{(t)(c)(rw)(omo)} 05:07, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, I didn't know where to look. OliviaRigby (talk) 05:10, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I have now created redirects for suitable pages on Commons and Wikidata, and interwiki-linked them to this page, so they appear in the (default) sidebar. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:17, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much for that. That would help anyone who has a similar question to mine. OliviaRigby (talk) 04:25, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm new!

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What should I do on Wikipedia? AmazingWikis1000 (talk) 18:53, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi @AmazingWikis1000, and welcome to Wikipedia! To learn about editing Wikipedia, I'd suggest you read the introduction to editing, or play The Wikipedia Adventure. Happy editing! VidanaliK (talk to me) 18:54, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/ChronicleBooks885. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:31, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Help with my Wikipedia page

I've been working on my very first Wikipedia page (About the game "Die of Death" from the ROBLOX platform) for a while now, but now that I'm nearly the later stages for it, I'm a little concerned:

How do I change the name of the Wikipedia draft/page?
It's currently just "Die of Death", but I thought it would be more useful to rename it to "Die of Death (Roblox game)", or something of that like.

Any help, whether it be about the problem itself this message is about, or making the Wikipedia in general, is greatly appreciated!
Hope to get the page done sometime soon. Kaidigger3 (talk) 02:35, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

For some well needed context: I am PAINFULLY new to Wikipedia. I don't really understand all that much, (Though, I did do my best to read all the various Wikipedia etiquette.) and only originally started this project as a joke.

If anyone would like to help me out, whether it be reading my draft (Please, tell me how to, though.), giving me advice for writing, or even just teaching me a tip or two about techniques or etiquette, feel fully free! I hope to get into the community, and thought this place was good to start. Kaidigger3 (talk) 02:57, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi Kaidigger3. First some good news: the title of most Wikipedia pages can be change as explained in WP:MOVE, but I don't think you should worry about that too much now because what you're working on (Draft:Die of Death) is still just a draft. The final title of page can be sorted out if the draft gets accepted as an article.

Now some not so good news: while I'm quite sure you've been working hard on your draft, but there's still quite a lot work to be done because right now this draft has pretty much zero chance of being accepted as a Wikipedia article. My suggestion to you, assuming you're asking about a video game, is to ask about this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games because that's where you're going to find WP:WIKIPEDIANs experienced in creating and editing articles about video games. One of the members of that WikiProject can probably give you a good assessment of whether the game is Wikipedia notable, which is going to need be clearly demonstrated for any article about the game to be created by anyone. If the game does turn out to be Wikipedia notable, then perhaps the members of that WikiProject can provide you with advice on how to further improve the draft to bring it more inline with Wikipedia's standards.

Finally, you might also want to take a look at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for reference. Wikipedia can be very different from other similar Wiki sites you might be used to in that it's really only intended to be for content that is seen have encylopedic value to Wikipedia's readers; it's not intended to be a free web host for one to post their own original research, fan pages or other types of personal projects. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:05, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

It feels painful working on something for over a month, first as a joke, then as a hobby, and actually starting to enjoy it, only to get beaten down by 4 people OVERNIGHT... but I understand all of it was with factual information.
Regardless, thank you numerous times over for taking the time and energy to practically write an entire paragraph just to help one person out. It helps so many more times over than it hurts. Kaidigger3 (talk) 20:24, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

@Kaidigger3 Article creation is, ironically, about one of the worst ways you could've picked to introduce yourself to Wikipedia. It's an extremely complex task which requires a solid understanding of a lot of policies and guidelines. Your draft for example currently shows no indication the topic is notable, and furthermore is written more like a strategy guide than an encyclopedia article.

I want to wish you a very, very warm welcome to Wikipedia and politely suggest you get started with contributing in smaller ways for a while before you try your hand at article creation. Athanelar (talk) 09:39, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I'll admit, I never really expected it to progress this far, but I appreciate your advice as much as any other person's. Thank you! Kaidigger3 (talk) 20:26, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

@Kaidigger3 I don’t want to discourage you but the whole format you have your draft in now will cause it most likely to be declined, it reads too much like a children’s gaming magazine/website as opposed to an encyclopaedia entry, I suggest you take a look at other articles on video games to get a flavour for how they are set out, secondly I suggest you find better sources because Fandom Wikis aren’t seen as reliable on Wikipedia. Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 11:54, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

When you point it out, I can definitely see your point on formatting. As for the Fandom situation, it's a bit... complex to figure out. Besides Fandom, there aren't really any other sources, and the ones that do exist are sketchier than my Draft itself (No offense to their creators).

And the worst part, probably, there's not really many other alternatives. As I personally learned the hard way, I can't even use the game link itself as a reference, for a reader to theoretically go check it themselves. So, unless I'm going to link a highly popular YouTube video, which I doubt would even be accepted, let alone be found reliable, I... don't really have any alternatives. Kaidigger3 (talk) 20:31, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Your best bet would be to find gaming articles (from reliable sources) or in a worse case add it to the list of Roblox games (and perhaps you could put a lengthy description with proper sources), I’m not well versed in Roblox so I’m unaware of how many sources there are and how many other people have spoken about it (in secondary reliable sources like news articles), but with topics about games within video games in-depth and secondary articles may be harder to find than just for the game itself (it’s easier to write an article on Minecraft than the server Cubecraft for example) Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 09:16, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Kaidigger3, and welcome to the Teahouse.

This may not be what you want to hear, but: My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 17:47, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I have to admit it... despite reading pretty much an official version of your exact first sentence, it never clicked for it to apply to me. It makes perfect sense for it to, though. Thank you for the advice, as much as everyone else here! Kaidigger3 (talk) 20:34, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Dispute over Werner Klemperer topic

Hello!

After adding an update about actor Werner Klemperer with verified source link as evidence, a user named FlightTime promptly deleted it with the comment that it was nonsense. First, my understanding of Wikipedia dispute guidelines is to be polite, civil, and not personal. Also to avoid deletions as a first reaction, it is recommended to attempt compromise on the update if there is a disagreement. This is not what happened.

Since I believe my update is accurate and verifiable, please advise how to proceed. I don't want to get into an edit war with this user.

Regards,

Richard8666

RF8666 (talk) 19:10, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi @RF8666. Your addition to the article was not appropriate, considering your addition is not verified by the source you gave. The reversion was correct. Please very carefully read WP:VERIFY qcne (talk) 19:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

The reference I gave did confirm the update. I don't see how it could be viewed otherwise. And what about how my update was handled? Immediately deleted and labeled nonsense? Is this how the Guidelines recommend be processed for disagreements, especially new users? I understood friendly discussion first before deletion with attempt to compromise. Rfischer8655 (talk) 19:37, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

For biographic articles we do delete harmful additions without warning or discussion. qcne (talk) 19:40, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I did not find the word "prose" in either reference provided. How hard would it be for you to simply give a brief 1 or 2 sentence update on what prose means? I really find you to be unhelpful and somewhat rude. I'm about ready to give up on Wikipedia as a friendly information environment where users can share information and discuss disagreements in a collegial way. Rfischer8655 (talk) 19:43, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Why do you have two user accounts? I did not mention the word prose, so I do not know what you are referring to. qcne (talk) 19:46, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

My original account is very old and was deleted on the cable provider's server. As a result, the associated email for user versification by Wikipedia was deleted as well. So I had to create a new account with an email to work for Wikipedia verification.

Regarding my prose comment, I was replying to FliteTime who is the user who is deleting my article update. I meant it for him and mistakenly sent it to you. Sorry for the confusion. Rfischer8655 (talk) 19:53, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

@Rfischer8655 You have two user accounts, and one was deleted? You were able to post using one account at 19:10 on 21 January. Then at 19:53, 43 minutes later, you posted with a different account and said the first account is very old and was deleted. And that account being deleted caused your associated email address to be deleted?

That does not make sense.

Wikipedia accounts don't get deleted by a cable provider.

And even if a Wikipedia account were to somehow be deleted (which is not possible by anyone), that would not cause the email address linked to that account to be deleted.

You have posted here in quick succession using two accounts. I don't see how one of them was "lost". Can you explain that any better? David10244 (talk) 04:51, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@Rfischer8655 @RF8666 I don't intend to be rude, but your comment about your accounts was confusing. David10244 (talk) 05:00, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion. The 2 accounts is because I hadn't logged into the original for many years, and could not remember the password. It just seemed more expedient to create a new one as I'm rarely active on Wikipedia. You were not rude, it was a user named FlightTime who repeatedly deleted my small update calling it "ridiculous". He would not engage with me to discuss politely, so I came here ( Teatime) for help. My update was based on a linked reference (newspaper interview with the article subject), and the context of the article was based on that interview. I basically gave up as it seemed this user had a bias, and seemed to think my update was a criticism of the article's subject. Long story short. Rfischer8655 (talk) 13:14, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

poor judgement rejection of South African notable people

I've noticed on the South African wikipedia page that entries on people like Karima Brown have been removed for not being notable enough when she is comparably far more notable in South Africa than many entries on others in other countries. I've had the same experience trying to add an entry on Mark Heywood who is likewise a very famous activist in South Africa. See my draft for details. Yes, I started with AI assistance, but have gone over it so many times it is now 100% my creation. Twice (including the most recent STOP), it was rejected for his not being notable enough. I addressed multiple other rejection reasons and the article is, I believe, of a good enough quality for acceptance.

However, I do believe that this entry being on a South African person is causing different treatment to, say, an even far less notable American.

I'm keen to be an active wikipedia contributor, but this experience has left me rather disappointed. Ayalbelling (talk) 19:44, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

You're confused about the way Wikipedia uses the word "notability". You can't be blamed for that, because Wikipedia has its own twisted definition for that word.

On here, notable means the person's full story is already published, by reliable publishers, without any input from the person themselves (or from their friends or supporters). TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 20:08, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@Ayalbelling To put it another way, 'notability' on Wikipedia is not about whether a person has actually done something significant, but whether appropriate secondary sources have already taken notice of it. Athanelar (talk) 21:29, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

It's better if you think about notability as the extent to which a topic has been noted. Has the media written about this topic? Do independent sources exist?

We have articles on tremendously unimportant topics that nonetheless received substantial media coverage. And there are great and influential people who never make the news. DS (talk) 00:33, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks so much. I hear you. But, for example, in the case of Mark Heywood, the sources are prominent and multiple: Guardian, Al Jazeera, a lifetime achievement award from one of South Africa's most prestigious news organisations. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mark_Heywood.

Hence, not just my claim, but also a discussion about this issue on South African Wikipedia page. Ayalbelling (talk) 13:12, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@Ayalbelling Did those prominent sources write their own full-length in-depth "Mark Heywood" stories? Or is he only interviewed, or mentioned in some other story? Interviews and mentions don't count for much.

Awards give nothing to notability on English Wikipedia, unless that award already has its own article on here. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 20:00, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

They interviews and mentions on the Guardian and Al Jazeera confirm his being a founder of TAC. That is all they're used for. Being one of the founders of South Africa's most impactful campaigns, makes a person notable. But, honestly, I give up trying so hard. I could go and dig up a thousand people who are far less notable even relatively speaking within their own countries (USA, Germany, UK, you name it). But that seems pointless.

That Heywood article is an example of a well-written, well referenced piece by average wikipedia standards and I would ask that it be put forward to editors in South Africa or perhaps several editors to to see if its rejection is a sign of a systemic anti-global-south bias. Ayalbelling (talk) 22:41, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm absolutely certain you could find a thousand inappropriate articles. We're only as good as those who choose to help; if you want to identify these articles and nominate them for deletion, you may. 331dot (talk) 22:44, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

There is no way that we could guarantee that only South African editors could examine a draft. We don't ask for the nationality of editors; some choose to identify their nationality, but we have no way to know if it is accurate. If a draft or article truly meets the criteria on this global website, the nationality of the editor shouldn't matter. 331dot (talk) 22:48, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@Ayalbelling Wikipedia doesn't use the word "notable" the same way you're using it. I consider that a weak point in Wikipedia's terminology, and I wish we used a different word. But (for an extreme example) if I look for reliable independent material about Einstein, I quickly find 2500 pages of published biographies. Hundreds of pages of biography on Mandela, in addition to reams of newspapers and magazines. Hundreds on Pinochet. These people, with hundreds or thousands of pages of reliable publicly-available material, are relatively easy to put together an article about. But go to libraries, newspaper archives, bookstores, and look for me: nothing. Not one page anywhere. They're notable. I'm not. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:10, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the detailed explanation! There is, for example, a wealth of material interviewing Heywood and about Heywood as founder on, for example, the Treatment Action Campaign website, or Corruption Watch (South Africa) and other orgs like Section27 which don't yet have a website but are in the layman's sense very notable in South Africa so should have their own wikipedia page.

Shouldn't references about his founding Treatment Action Campaign and Corruption Watch help, combined with the fact that he has the lifetime achievement award from another entity with a wikipedia page, Daily Maverick, push him over the wikipedia notable threshold?

If so, and there's simply an issue with the references given in the existing draft, might you be able to suggest how better to reference his notability? Ayalbelling (talk) 14:26, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

The Maverick can not be used to determine notability, as Mark Heywood is an editor of it, though it may still be used as per WP:ABOUTSELF. The Guardian and Al Jazeera are generally regarded as reliable sources on Wikipedia, and most editors would be familiar with them. The other sources are all South African specific sources which most editors are likely unfamiliar with, and may not know if they are reliable or not. GroundUp is listed as a reliable source on Wikipedia:Reliable South African Sources (a page of WikiProject South Africa), SA Good News and The Witness do not appear to have a mention on the page. I think that finding references from some more sources deemed reliable, either amongst the sources recognised as reliable South African sources or at the reliable perennial sources page WP:RSP.

Make sure to read the comments left by the reviewers, as well as help pages. I recommend you check out WP:REFB, and the information pages linked to in this comment. Mitchsavl (talk) 05:44, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Lua module

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@Olliefant: There was also an en dash instead of a hyphen. Fixed in . PrimeHunter (talk) 15:16, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Stubborn caption

Why doesn't the "Gaddo Gaddi (attr.), Coronation of the Virgin (c. 1300-1310)" appear below the image?

[[File:Arkyves 242. Gaddo Gaddi (attr.), Coronation of the Virgin. Florence, Cathedral of Santa Maria del Fiore (c. 1280-1300); Author’s photograph.jpg |center |400px | Gaddo Gaddi (attr.), Coronation of the Virgin (c. 1300-1310)]]

Gaddo Gaddi (attr.), Coronation of the Virgin (c. 1300-1310)

Jp1008 (talk) 05:32, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@Jp1008: Try using a WP:THUMBNAIL markup instead. Captions seem to work fine with thumbnail images. If you do this, though, please don't set the image to a fixed pixel size per WP:THUMBSIZE; instead use a scaling factor as explained in MOS:UPRIGHT. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:47, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

You could also use various gallery options: see Help:Pictures#Galleries but note the advice at the top of that section. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:39, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

How Bengali Wikipedia works?

the function of Bengali Wikipedia ~2026-49934-1 (talk) 15:26, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi @~2026-49934-1, you will have to ask at the Bengali Wikipedia as it is a separate unaffiliated projected to the English Wikipedia. qcne (talk) 15:36, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @. Try asking at bn:উইকিপিডিয়া:চাঘর ColinFine (talk) 15:55, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Do redirects needs talk pages with tagged wikiprojects?

I looked at Wikipedia:Redirect and couldn't figure it out. Guz13 (talk) 01:51, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@Guz13, generally a redirect doesn't need a talk page at all, unless there's a reason to be discussing that redirect -- maybe it's controversial for some reason, for instance. And even then a redirect's talk page might itself appropriately redirect to the redirect's target's talk page.

If you tell us which redirect you're talking about, we might be able to give more clarity. Valereee (talk) 14:17, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Sometimes a redirect is created after a merge discussion and the history of the redirect page and its talk page give the content that was there before the merge was completed. In that case, the talk page could easily still have wikiproject details. Most new redirects would not need talk pages at all. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:57, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

How to add an article about a specialiced service that is used by National libraries, but not covered in enough in "reliable resources" meeting wikipedia's criterias?

Hi dear wikipedia team,

This is about how to add an article about the "TANGO-DJ.AT Database" which is the world's largest digital accessible tango archive and database. It is used as resource for meta data information of tango recordings by National libraries and many tango collectors and tango-djs. Because it is the only service worldwide where it is possible to compare individual tango transfers with each other, which enables to verify a given recording and compare the qualities of releases.

I am the founder of the association running the database and I disclosed that accordingly. And I think limited every statement of the draft to very neutral facts about the database.

Seeing that National libraries as well as plenty of the most specialized people in tango in the world are using this database as reference for tango recordings, I feel that a wikipedia article covering the most basic existence would be appropriate. However there is little to no coverage in books or papers. There has been an article in info7, a specialized magazin for media and archives - which obviously is not enough, as the draft was not accepted due to the lack of multiple independent sources.

The database is mentioned a lot in various blogs and social postings of tango collectors and tango-djs, but I understand that those don't meet the requirements.

The problem seems to be that the work with tango recordings itself is done by a very small community and there is hardly any source which seems to fit the requirements wikipedia asks for adding a new article.

I just find it a bit of a contradiction, that on one hand this resource is used as source of information by National libraries, but is rejected by wikipedia, because there is no coverage in a book or alike. And my experience with some public information of independet coverage of topics can be less than precise and reliable if not researched properly. I regularly find erros in tango books with the help of this database. So in many times to reliability is even the other way around!

Is there a way to create an article in this circumstance for this highly specialized database, which is used and recommended by professionals and tango aficionados alike, but doesn't make it into wikipedia?

best regards,

Bernhard BeG42 (talk) 14:34, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

This seems like the kind of resource that, if as significant as you make it out to be, should be covered in scholarly literature. I would recommend looking through databases of academic publications on dance to find relevant sources. You should also make sure to comply with our conflict of interest guideline before resubmitting an article. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 14:50, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I’d also consider WP:JOURNALCRIT which covers vital journals that don’t have much written on the journals themselves. If so little is written about it, it won’t be much more than a stub even if notable. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 14:55, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your fast replies! (and also regarding the article itself - even if not accepted - the decision came very fast..:)

The unique nature and importance of this database is about the various tranfers of tango recordings. I am afraid there are hardly any journals working on comparing the quality of tango transfers/releases. So I am not sure it is mentioned therefore in such.

And I am sorry, but I don't understand "it won’t be much more than a stub even if notable."

Does this mean that unless mentioned in some scientific journals, there is no possibility to be added to wikipedia? BeG42 (talk) 15:03, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

In Wikipedia terms, a "stub" is a very very short article - sometimes only one or two sentences. Because we can only summarize what other people say about subjects, if there's not much to say then the article will have to stay small.

Your sources don't have to be scientific journals, but they do need to be reliable and independent. Read through the policy Shushugah linked, WP:JOURNALCRIT, for more information on what you are looking for. Meadowlark (talk) 16:38, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

thx for your explanation.

I was considering my draft almost like this. My thinking was, that I started to add pieces of tango information based on the database to relevant articles referecing to the database. And in case users wonder what is this database being referenced to, it would make sense to have a short article about it, just stating the most basic facts about it. BeG42 (talk) 18:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I see, thank you.

I think I did that by declaring my relation to it as asked for? BeG42 (talk) 14:55, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

"Notability" isn't the same thing as "importance". "Notability" is "the extent to which a topic has been noted". Are there sources we can use that are more than just "this is what the founder of the association says about their database"?

That said, this might go on our sibling project Wikidata. And, depending on whether we already have entries on tango recordings, it might become the basis of a property. DS (talk) 15:11, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I see. thank you. It's also a bit tricky for me as 1. English is not my native language and 2. new to contributing to wikipedia at all.. So I try my best, but I am not used to all the termininology yet..

It also probably doesn't help that full access is limited to supporting members, so the majority probably doesn't bother and looks for less quality stuff which available for free. Sadly a common thing in the tango community..

I will try to get in touch with the people at the libraries and look out for mentioning in other/more publications in order to find more sources which might be working for wikipedia too.. BeG42 (talk) 15:19, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Regarding COI disclosure, looks like you have made an effort to disclose it in an up front manner (I should have acknowledged that, mea culpa), although I would suggest that the disclosure on the draft would go best at Draft talk:TANGO-DJ.AT Database, using the {{Connected contributor}} template. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 15:19, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

BeG42, having a separate article devoted to a topic is not the only way that information can be added to Wikipedia. One possibility is that a properly referenced section about the database can be added to Tango music. Then, a redirect can be created. That means that any reader searching for information about TANGO-DJ.AT would end up at that section of the Tango music article. If additional reliable sources cover the database in the future, then perhaps a separate article could be created at that time. You should make a formal Edit request at Talk: Tango music that would then be evaluated by an experienced uninvolved editor. Cullen328 (talk) 16:57, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for acknogledging, but as I pointed out, I am very inexperienced in the way this works here. So I try my best to stay as neutral and as transparent as possible. I am working for 30 years in argentine tango and I know all the resources available, I do not exagerate with my statements.

Thank you also for the suggestion to add references to tango related articles. However the suggested article "Tango music" is actually quite a big mess. Part of the problem here I think is based in the fact that there is very different tango music (European standard tango and Argentine tango which to some extend are almost opposing. Which also shows in the contradicting and "editing wars" going on in that article. So many statements there are so much less based on any references than the few facts I tried to mention about the database..

I did start to contribute bits of tango information being unique to the extend of the database in more specialized existing articles, like argentine tango orchestras and artists, where the content of this database can contribute so much to the quality and information of those specialized tango articles.

Any yet, it seems almost impossible to just state some very neutral and obvious facts about the database as independet article for it. But I understand and except the guidlines. I guess it's just a matter of time.. I personally just feel it would contribute to the quality and extend of wikipedia to have coverage of such a resource. BeG42 (talk) 17:40, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Everyone feels that their information would contribute to the quality and extent of Wikipedia. But Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a place to throw all of the world's information. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 18:07, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I see, but at the same time - when I take a look at references being used in plenty of tango articles, it's less than reliable and in many cases even not existing sources...

At the same time, facts based on 30 years of experience and reserach don't make it in.. BeG42 (talk) 18:17, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I did start a talk about TANGO-DJ.AT Database and I hope I included the {{Connected contributor}} correctly?

I work with argentine tango recordings for 30 years professionally, so I am happy to help with any information about it. I really think it would be a good addition to wikipedia and I'd love some experienced editor to decide to take a look at it. BeG42 (talk) 18:04, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

If it has been published in reliable secondary sources, we'd be happy to take a look. But if you have this information because it's your personal experience, Wikipedia won't even look at it. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 20:48, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

@BeG42 You want to make an article about that database, correct? You're not trying to use the database as a source for another article, right?

As others have said, if sources have published articles about this database, and not just used this database, those sources could be the basis for you to make an article about the database. I hope this makes sense! David10244 (talk) 04:37, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

That was the idea. There has been an extensive article published in info7 a specialized established magazin for media and archives which was edited by an independent editor of that magazin. I cited and referenced to this article, but I guess that isn't/wasn't enough and I am currently not aware of other publications who wrote about it. (other than tango dj blogs and collectors) ~2026-49798-5 (talk) 17:38, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

A question about adding a producer credit to an album article

in December of last year, i made an edit to the article for the album “Uta's Songs: One Piece Film Red,” and in January of this year it was reverted without an explanation why.

a bit of context beforehand: Fake Type is a duo made up of a lyricist/vocalist (Tophamhat-kyo) and a producer/arranger (Dyes Iwasaki). the two wrote and produced “Fleeting Lullaby” for the aforementioned Uta’s Songs album.

in the album's article, Tophamhat-kyo is credited as the lyricist for Fleeting Lullaby, and Fake Type is credited as the song’s producer, unintentionally implying that they are two separate artists. i figured i would fix this by crediting Dyes Iwasaki where applicable. but a week ago, the edit was reverted without explanation. did i do something wrong in editing it? is there maybe a more formal process for crediting a person on an album article that i'm not aware of? Spilogale Putorius (talk) 11:46, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Spilogale Putorius, on Talk:Uta's Songs: One Piece Film Red, ask -Verso- about their reversion. -- Hoary (talk) 12:14, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

A reason I can think of off the top of my head: maybe the other editor wants the credits to literally conform to the way they're given in the source being used, even if it creates this kind of situation. If it's that, then in my opinion both of you are correct, and it shouldn't be too hard to solve. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:02, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

now that you mention the way the credits are given in the source...i'm looking a little closer and noticing that across a few different streaming services, Dyes Iwasaki is credited, but he's not credited as the producer for the song.

source 28 on the article (Apple Music) appears to currently list Dyes Iwasaki as the composer on its credits page. source 30 (Tidal) has the producer listed as Fake Type, and Dyes Iwasaki is listed as the recording arranger, which does make sense. his jazz-styled songs are mostly played by live instruments, with a few electronic elements here and there.

now that i've considered the details of Dyes' role in the song-as well as the fact that i've just now noticed he is credited in the personnel page as a recording arranger-i can definitely see why the edit was reverted. my apologies for the silliness. Spilogale Putorius (talk) 12:15, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

WP:AGF reminds everyone to assume that the other person is acting in good faith - but your actions in this case were so obviously done in good faith that nobody needs to do any assuming about you. OK, you made a mistake at first, but you did the right thing. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 18:24, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Baby Editor needs help with declined draft: Martina Dimoska 🥹

Hello, amazing people! It's my first time here and I need help on improving a draft. So my draft on Draft:Martina Dimoska was declined by a reviewer who noted issues with formal tone, neutrality, and promotional language ("peacock terms"). The reviewer specifically criticized the first sentence. SpaceTrail (talk) 09:52, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

1. the article is clearly, in its entirety, AI-generated

2. the first sentence is a major issue as noted. "published and awarded", "innovator" and "internationally recognized" scarcely belong in a page, let alone the opening sentence of the lede paragraph.

3. you claim the image of Dimoska is your "own work". if so, you have an undeclared conflict of interest. if this isn't the case, why have you lied?

4. there are excessive external links, especially in the lede, that need to be switched out for inline citations

5. most of your inline citations in the rest of the article go before the period/full stop; they need to go after aesurias (ping me in your reply, or I won't see it) (talk) 10:01, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@Aesurias, thank you for your feedback. Just out of pure curiosity, why do you think the article is AI-generated? I'll work on the second point, thank you for that (I had a full list of questions under this same message but I didn't use a source edit so it kinda disappeared 😅). Oh, concerning the image, the description was not aligning properly on the image (when I add it, it moves to the right instead of the bottom of the page) and I honestly forgot before making a review request. Pardon me for that. 😅 Additionally, I'll work on the external links at the top and switch that out to inline. However, since Dimoska is affiliated with one of the external links (International Space Alliance), would adding that inline be an issue? Lastly, I'll fix the citations-period situation! Thank you so much again! Looking to hear from you! SpaceTrail (talk) 10:12, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Obvious signs that the page is AI-generated are:

a. the overcapitalization in section headers (e.g. "Media and Public Speaking" rather than "Media and public speaking")

b. vague claims like "Her entrepreneurial insights on leveraging analog missions for business opportunities in the Western Balkans were published in Forbes."

c. ChatGPT's "list of three" habit, where it will use three reasons as an explanation for something (e.g. "...began through volunteering (1), analog missions (2), and her 'ultimate pursuit of truth' (3).

d. some parts of the page use the standard short dash (e.g. "(2024-2027)", while others use an en dash (e.g. "(2023–2030)"). this inconsistency indicates the use of a large language model for large sections of the page while small parts were handwritten

e. some of your sources have been hallucinated by AI and do not exist. for example, reference 4

I cannot see how you have addressed my concern about the image. I'm not talking about how it aligns – you uploaded it to Wikimedia and claimed it was your "own work", releasing it under a CC0 agreement. Despite this claim, I have found the image on Instagram.

Perhaps the external link for the ISA group can be included in the external links section at the bottom of the page, but it shouldn't be used in the middle of the page – if you don't feel that it is notable enough for a standalone Wikipedia page, you can simply use the name of the organization normally with no link in the text. aesurias (ping me in your reply, or I won't see it) (talk) 10:39, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@Aesurias, I didn't see this on time, omg I'm sorry. So I definitely understand why you would think these point to AI, basically I did use AI to refine some sentences I got stuck with because they sounded weird when I typed it myself. On the first point, I would say it was a silly habit and I forgot to go a last sweep on making sure it aligned with WP's MoS (if you check my "publish summary", I used title case too to describe some if not all edits. Third point of yours with the GPT three reasons: I wrote two reasons initially (you would see it in the edit log) but I felt I needed to cite something there then it would be a claim(?) then I added the last one because 'ultimate pursuit of truth' was a direct quotation from the source I cited in-line. On reference 4, it took me quite a long time to find the actual agreement because I saw Martina post it on her LinkedIn and I felt that was really cool (but even I knew a linkedin citation wouldn't cut it especially since it's NASA so I searched and there is a publicly available document from NASA on awardees of the Space Act Agreement (but when I tried to cite that, it just turned around a message from Wikipedia that says PDFs are not reliable sources. Here's the list, just search Martina Dimoska (and I honestly cannot remember why reference 4 has that particular . Concerning the image, I missed that step and I have no excuses. And yeah, thank you for that notice on the external link. 🫶 SpaceTrail (talk) 18:34, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi @SpaceTrail. To add onto what @Aesurias very helpfully said, your draft doesn't actually give clear evidence of how Martina meets our criteria for inclusion. What it does instead is waffle in a promotional tone for paragraphs and paragraphs. I'd suggest substantially cutting down the prose: only summarise what reliable, secondary, independent sources state about Martina. qcne (talk) 10:11, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@Qcne, hi! Thank you so much for responding! So you think the fluff words overshadow what independent sources have said about Martina? I'm curious as to what aspects the draft is failing to meet under the basic (and additional) criteria for inclusion. I'll give that page another re-read but I'm curious on your perspective. Thank you! I'm looking forward to hearing from you as well! SpaceTrail (talk) 10:16, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

When reviewing drafts it's fairly common to be able to tell within the first three sources or so if a person meets our criteria. Of your first three sources:

1. An interview (not independent).
2. A listing (not significant coverage).
3. Doesn't mention her, which is very concerning as it means the source doesn't verify the preceding statement.

Not a good start, let's look at the next three:

1. 404 not found.
2. Connected with Martina (not independent).
3. Doesn't mention her, which is very concerning as it means the source doesn't verify the preceding statement.

Next three:

1. Doesn't mention her, which is very concerning as it means the source doesn't verify the preceding statement.
2. A listing (not significant coverage).
3. An interview (not independent).

Next three:

1. Doesn't mention her, which is very concerning as it means the source doesn't verify the preceding statement.
2. Her academic paper (not independent).
3. An interview (not independent).

So, really not ideal.

On Wikipedia, an article must only summarise what existing sources state. The sources need to be reliable and published, and to establish the criteria for inclusion need to be secondary, independent, and provide significant coverage of the person - one of the first 12 sources meet that criteria. More importantly, for biographies of living people, every biographic statement must be accompanied with a citation that directly verifies the information stated - three of the sources don't do that. qcne (talk) 10:25, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@Qcne, I really appreciate you for this, I'll add irrelevant, dependent references declutter to my checklist, among others. I really really appreciate you. I'll be dropping in occasionally and I hope you're here to say something again too. 🥹 Thanks! SpaceTrail (talk) 18:03, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

When this thread gets archived, feel free to drop a msg on my User Talk Page. qcne (talk) 18:06, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@Qcne, omg thank you. 🥹 Will definitely do. SpaceTrail (talk) 18:35, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

For example, there is a comically excessive reliance on LinkedIn throughout the page. This is not reliable or independent. aesurias (ping me in your reply, or I won't see it) (talk) 10:43, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@Aesurias, thank you so much for pointing that out. I thought because it directly supports some statements... but I definitely see how that shows dependence to the subject. SpaceTrail (talk) 18:01, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Why doesn't Alone: The Home Recordings of Rivers Cuomo III have an article?

I've noticed that the first two Alone albums have articles (Alone: The Home Recordings of Rivers Cuomo, Alone II: The Home Recordings of Rivers Cuomo), but for some reason Alone III doesn't have one. I would make it myself but I don't know how to use references or where to find them. -Weez3forever (ttm!)-(contribs) (check them out! Weezer) 00:41, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

(testing: Alone III: The Pinkerton Years) -Weez3forever (ttm!)-(contribs) (check them out! Weezer) 01:07, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Why is it just a redirect to Rivers Cuomo??? -Weez3forever (ttm!)-(contribs) (check them out! Weezer) 01:07, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Two possible reasons:

• Nobody wrote an article for it yet, and the redirect is so people will at least find Rivers Cuomo instead of nothing

Or

• There isn't enough reliable material in existence to be able to make a proper article about it, and instead it should be part of the Rivers Cuomo article.

TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:25, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@TooManyFingers Oh, I guess that makes sense. Still I can think of a few things from that era off the top of my head and such (i.e. the Pinkerton Diaries), should I consider writing an article about it? And another question, as someone who hasn't written an article before (or opened the Sandbox), how do I use the Sandbox? -Weez3forever (ttm!)-(contribs) (check them out! Weezer) 01:55, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

When considering writing an article, the most important factor is what's described at WP:42 - if you can't find enough of what they talk about there, then there's not going to be an article.

Here is a link to Weez3rforever's sandbox - when you click it it will tell you you're making a new page, but yes, go ahead, it IS your sandbox after all. Then you, umm, type some stuff. :) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 02:09, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@Weez3rforever I see by the link turning blue that you found it :)

Sandboxes can't be found by searching Wikipedia in the normal way, but everyone who has one themselves will automatically know where to find yours too. So, you can work on unfinished articles there, keep a list of references still to be checked, practice on tricky editing features like tables and so on, whatever ... but don't break ANY Wikipedia rules - especially don't paste in any copyright violation, not even temporarily. It's kind of hidden, but it's not private.

(And if your work on an unfinished article gets to a more serious stage where you know it has a half-decent chance of success, you can move that material into WP:DRAFTS.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 18:09, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@TooManyFingers alright!! Thanks a lot!! :) -Weez3forever (ttm!)-(contribs) (check them out! Weezer) 19:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Issues with monthly archiving of my talk page

I use MiszaBot to archive my talk page, and am confused why User talk:Gommeh/Archives/2026/January isn't showing up on the list of monthly archives at the top. Not really sure where else I can ask this. Can someone help me figure this out? Gommeh 📖   🎮 18:48, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm confused by your question. Hasn't your archive always shown the newest month at the bottom? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:28, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Found the problem. Evidently the {{monthly archive list}} template needs to be updated every year. Someone should really write a Lua module for that, but I'm too lazy to do it. Gommeh 📖   🎮 19:46, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY

Happy birth-day to you!
Happy birth-day to you!
Happy birth-day Wikipediaaaaaaa...
Happy birth-day to you!
--DollarStoreBa'al^Converse 14:19, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

@DollarStoreBaal44. Thanks! I congratulate you on Wikipedia's 25th birthday too! We wish you success in your work on Wikipedia! (Infinitywiki2 (talk) 15:00, 15 January 2026 (UTC))

@Infinitywiki2 The same for you! --DollarStoreBa'al^Converse 15:22, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Never new I would see knock-off Ba’al celebrating Wikipedia but here we are, the Phoenicians would be confused 😂 Have a great Wikipedia 25th anniversary! Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 16:51, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

• knew (can’t believe I used the wrong word 😂) Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 14:26, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Gah, I missed the stream even though I had a snow day yesterday... I was there in spirit. Happy birthday Wikipedia! I hope this website helps everyone to gain more knowledge about the world around them. Much love! jiraijohnny˚₊‧꒰ა ♡ ໒꒱ ‧₊˚ (KISS ME GOOD-BYE.⋆˚꩜｡) 13:41, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

≽^•⩊•^≼ ~2026-50238-2 (talk) 13:53, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

UwU DominikTuazon (talk) 20:42, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

NOOOOOO I MISSED THE LIVESTREAM BECAUSE I HAD TO PAY ATTENTION IN SCIENCE CLASS :( --DollarStoreBa'al^Converse 17:43, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Don’t you have the powers to just destroy the building, you are Ba’al after all Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 17:56, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Recording of the stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5rPmv27YzY. —⁠andrybak (talk) 18:01, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Well, the stream's already happened, so there really isn't any point. --DollarStoreBa'al^Converse 18:10, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

same here :( I was at school I believe Weez3rforever (talk) 01:50, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia's 25th birthday

Hello everyone, today is the 25th birthday of the English Wikipedia - we know that everyone has been waiting for this day! We have been developing Wikipedia for 25 years! I would like to express my deep gratitude to all of you for your every effort on Wikipedia! And at this point, we would like to congratulate all Wikipedians on Wikipedia's 25th birthday! (Infinitywiki2 (talk) 15:04, 15 January 2026 (UTC))

🎉🎉🎉 Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 16:49, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

🥳 Happy Birthday to the greatest human project of the Internet age imo! User:KeyolTranslater it was cool to see your name in the chat on the livestream just now, as someone who has been lurking Teahouse to learn and has seen you around. This is my first attempt to indent-reply on a Talk page, fingers crossed this works! 😀

Sophiatries (talk) 17:16, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Oh wow, I didn’t think some would recognise me 😂 thought my muttering were drowned out by everyone else. It was amazing to hear about that WW2 Veteran who still edits Wikipedia now at the age of 100, genuinely amazing. Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 17:25, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

What livestream? ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 22:49, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Oh now i know what livestream, i haven't heard about this livestream. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 22:52, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Ok for the benefit of any other Talk Page newbs, looks like if you add your four tildes on a new line you need to indent that manually as well, adding this to try to fix 😭 Sophiatries (talk) 17:19, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Happy Birthday Wikipedia! DominikTuazon (talk) 19:32, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

@DominikTuazon, @KeyolTranslater, @Sophiatries, @~2025-43053-85 Thanks everyone! (Infinitywiki2 (talk) 07:38, 16 January 2026 (UTC))

No problem, enjoy! DominikTuazon (talk) 19:39, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

@DominikTuazon – Thanks! (Infinitywiki2 (talk) 07:41, 17 January 2026 (UTC))

@DominikTuazon – Thank you and everyone! We will love and develop Wikipedia forever! Your work is appreciated! We appreciate your edits! (Infinitywiki2 (talk) 07:43, 17 January 2026 (UTC))

You too, have a great year! DominikTuazon (talk) 20:45, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

@DominikTuazon – Thank you, let's be together!!! (Infinitywiki2 (talk) 12:33, 19 January 2026 (UTC))

:D

DominikTuazon (talk) 00:50, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, WIKIPEDIA

I wish that Wikipedia - oh, this beautiful website - stays up for another century. Happy Birthday, Wikipedia!

Lemurik the Historian - president of Alternia and brand-new user of the Wiki Lemurik the Historian (talk) 18:03, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

@Lemurik the Historian. Thanks! (Infinitywiki2 (talk) 07:39, 16 January 2026 (UTC))

25 years on Wikipedia

Today is the 25th anniversary of Wikipedia! ~2026-34318-9 (talk) 13:40, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Sorry but you are a day late unfortunately, but you can still celebrate and you can rewatch the livestream from yesterday! 🎉🎉🎉 Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 13:47, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Genre policy

I'm thinking of proposing a policy on musical genres, specifically regarding which/how many reliably sourced genres should be included. I've noticed that in some articles, only the most relevant genres are included, but in others, there are many, many genres listed (all of which are reliably sourced, but some of which are just cited as influences). I just wanted to make sure there aren't any policies already on this. I know that genres must obviously be supported by reliable sources, as with all info. Are there any other relevant policies here? FloblinTheGoblin (talk) 14:54, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@FloblinTheGoblin See WP:GENRE, as there is already a taskforce on this. See also WP:GENREWARRIOR: it is a controversial topic! Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:19, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @FloblinTheGoblin, and welcome to the Teahouse.

Please discuss this at WP:WikiProject Music/Music genres task force (and look through the Talk page and its archives. ) before you do anything.

You might also find the essay WP:Genre Warrior illuminating, or entertaining. ColinFine (talk) 15:20, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Great minds think alike but one types faster than the other. Mike Turnbull (talk) 23:00, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

How to delete an account?

Hello-

We created a page and it got blocked. We made a mistake in the tittle/topic. 

How can we delete the page and account and start from scratch? 

Thanks F.E. Johnson Jr. (talk) 19:59, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Accounts can not be deleted due to technical reasons. However I can move drafts or pages for you - tell me what the draft or page is and the new title? qcne (talk) 20:02, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

It's for the user account @ User:Forest Johnson Photography

This user account got blocked!

I would like to change the username to FEJ and change Topic/Biography title to Forest Johnson Jr.

Can you help? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by F.E. Johnson Jr. (talk • contribs) 20:22, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi F.E. Johnson Jr. . The account Forest Johnson Photography was blocked by an administrator named Cryptic for not only a violation of Wikipedia's user name policy but also for making promotional edits. The username problem can be fixed by changing your user name but the "promotional edits" part isn't so easily resolved. I strongly suggest you follow the instructions given at User talk:Forest Johnson Photography#Blocked and request that account be unblocked. Creating a new account to conitnue editing as you did before was not a good at idea at all, and can be seen as block evasion even though you might have thought that doing such a thing was OK. You're really going to need to resolve the blocking of your other account before doing anything else. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:00, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

I think, assuming good faith, this is a user who has no idea how Wikipedia works. Pinging in admin @Cryptic.

@F.E. Johnson Jr. you request a username change via Wikipedia:Changing username. qcne (talk) 21:02, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

F.E. Johnson Jr., the important thing to remember here is that Wikipedia cannot be used for promotion, especially self-promotion. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that provides independently-written summaries of different topics, and trying to promote something violates this purpose. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 22:58, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Representative sample from deleted draft: "After the passing of his father, Forest became totally involved in the family business with his mother, Heidi. Until then photography was only a hobby for Forest. Forest real interest was flying and especially in helicopters. As far back as 8 years old, Forest got an “A” on his Report Card, so his parents rewarded him with a 15-minute helicopter ride." The username was the least of the issues here. —Cryptic 01:14, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

Another thing to note is the use of "we", indicating that the account is being used by multiple people. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 02:30, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

Kindly Review

Hello everyone,

I recently resubmitted a biography draft at Articles for Creation: Draft:Neel Hurerzahan.

I have addressed all prior reviewer comments, including sourcing, tone, removal of categories (per WP:DRAFTNOCAT), and I have also clarified that I am not a paid editor and have no financial relationship with the subject.

At this point, I am waiting for review. I am not asking for expedited approval, but I would really appreciate it if an experienced editor could take a look and let me know whether there are any remaining policy issues or improvements I should make while it is awaiting review.

Thank you very much for your time and guidance. Saafayat (talk) 04:31, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

"At this point, I am waiting for review". Yes, Saafayat, you are, or rather it is, waiting for a review. But in the meantime, here's an example of its references:{{cite web |url=https://mzamin.com/news.php?news=164735 |title=Manab Zamin coverage |work=Manab Zamin}}. No, "Manab Zamin coverage" is not the title. Please use |title= |script-title= |trans-title= |language= informatively and accurately. -- Hoary (talk) 05:29, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

It's been declined again, so you needn't wait any longer.

See WP:NEWLLM. You aren't allowed to use an AI to write an article from scratch. It's full of vague, vapid LLM-speak that provides zero substantive information while sounding important. Examples are "Her work has been covered by national newspapers", "gained widespread attention", "received national media coverage", and "has been profiled or mentioned". A Wikipedia article should summarize what the sources actually say, and not simply note that "sources said something".

If you don't address this problem by rewriting the draft as a human, it will likely be rejected as contrary to the purposes of Wikipedia next time you submit it. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 06:43, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

Need help for move

Hello everyone before working on any sensitive topics, I started by creating fictional character articles. First i worked on Champaklal Jayantilal Gada, and now I have created Draft:Taarak Mehta

I wanted to ask if this approach is okay?? Also i m unable to move Draft:Taarak Mehta to the mainspace. Could someone please explain why the page move option is not available and what steps I should follow next? Gujarat Samachar (talk) 13:57, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

The draft has been submitted for review, please let this process play out. 331dot (talk) 14:09, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Before submitting i am getting trouble for move why?? Gujarat Samachar (talk) 14:12, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

You're not in trouble, but you need to slow down. There's a very good reason for an inexperienced editor to submit to AFC first rather than moving the articles themselves: if the article isn't up to snuff, it can very quickly WP:AFD. As it stands, Taarak Mehta is in poor shape: you've provided little significant coverage about the character to demonstrate notability of the character himself. You've also used cites that aren't connected at all with the actual content you added. Some of the sources aren't independent, and the prose style looks like it was written by an LLM. I don't think this article would survive AFD. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 15:43, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

For clarity, "AFD" means the discussion where bad articles get deleted. WP:AFD has more information. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 15:55, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I understood 👍 Gujarat Samachar (talk) 16:01, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Gujarat Samachar, and welcome to the Teahouse.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

Unless you can find several reliable sources, wholly unconnected with anybody involved in the series, and about the character (not the actor or the series), then no article is possible. ColinFine (talk) 18:03, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

@Gujarat Samachar, I have just returned your first article to draftspace; you can find it at Draft:Champaklal Jayantilal Gada. You don't have any good sources to show that this character qualifies for a Wikipedia article. At the moment people are being kind and just sending your articles to draftspace - the other option is that we could send them to WP:AFD, and if they were deleted it would be much harder to create them again. Can I suggest you use the Articles for Creation process for all your work until you have a better idea of what can have a Wikipedia article and what can't? You can spend as long as you want working on drafts with no risk of deletion, and reviewers will help you understand any problems with your draft. Meadowlark (talk) 08:06, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

This account of mine

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I ask the team to help me check this account of mine (I opened the account a long time ago and tried to renew it), and advise me, how to move forward from here towards renewing my home page or is there anything else that needs to be done? And maybe I can also help others in the future. Sponsorid (talk) 12:05, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Please do not use multiple forums to seek assistance, as this duplicates effort. I'll respond at the help desk. 331dot (talk) 12:13, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Help improving Chanali Village draft article

Hi! I’ve been working on a draft article for Chanali Village, located in Ajayameru Rural Municipality, Dadeldhura District, Nepal. The draft was previously declined due to limited sources, but I’ve added references including the official municipality website, OpenStreetMap, and district-level census data. Since Chanali is a small village, direct published sources are rare, so I’ve used ward-level data where needed and clearly noted that in the article. I’d appreciate help reviewing the draft and suggestions for improving its reliability and notability. Thank you! ~2026-50376-2 (talk) 13:56, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello; I think that you inadvertently edited while logged out. 331dot (talk) 14:01, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Draft:Chanali Village

Most of the draft is unsourced, and the sources you have seem to just document specific pieces of information; where are you getting your information? If, as you say, published sources are rare, then there isn't enough sources to sustain an article. 331dot (talk) 14:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

WP:NPLACE lists the criteria that must be shown to be met for an article about a village. Focus on doing so. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:41, 24 January 2026 (UTC)