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Latest comment: 1 month ago by The Bushranger in topic June 2026 edit request

Reversion by ZDRX — ECR dispute

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I am disputing the reversion made at 16:01, 7 June 2026 citing ECR violation. The removed content was supported by the following reliable sources:

  • Narasimhan et al. (2019). Science. doi:10.1126/science.aat7487
  • Moorjani et al. (2013). American Journal of Human Genetics. doi:10.1016/j.ajhg.2013.07.006
  • Wilder (1999). Oxford University Press
  • Jones (2003). Oxford University Press
  • Anthony (2007). Princeton University Press
  • Rapson ed. (1922). Cambridge University Press
  • Dawn newspaper (WP:RS compliant)
  • The Express Tribune (WP:RS compliant)

Per WP:BURDEN, the editor reverting sourced content must identify which specific source fails WP:RS and provide a counter-source. A blanket ECR reversion without identifying the precise unreliable source does not meet this standard.

I am requesting ZDRX explain which specific claim and which specific source triggered the ECR concern before any further reversion.

ApexWatcher (talk) 16:09, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@ApexWatcher You need to have 500+ edits to edit caste related subsection. I have already left you a notice on your talk page. THEZDRX (User) | (Contact) 16:17, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Editorial note for reviewers — please read before editing

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This article draws on four tiers of sourcing. Any reversion of content must identify which specific claim lacks sourcing and propose an alternative reliable source. Blanket reversions citing WP:ECR without identifying the precise unreliable source will be challenged at WP:RSN.

Tier 1 — Peer-reviewed academic journals (strongest possible sourcing)
  • Narasimhan, V. M. et al. (2019). "The formation of human populations in South and Central Asia." Science. doi:10.1126/science.aat7487 — used for genetic ancestry claims
  • Moorjani, P. et al. (2013). "Genetic Evidence for Recent Population Mixture in India." American Journal of Human Genetics. doi:10.1016/j.ajhg.2013.07.006 — used for genetic haplogroup claims
Tier 2 — Academic books from major university presses
  • Wilder, Andrew (1999). Oxford University Press — used for clan distribution
  • Jones, Philip E. (2003). Oxford University Press — used for clan distribution
  • Anthony, David W. (2007). Princeton University Press — used for Sintashta and chariot origin
  • Rapson, E. J. ed. (1922). Cambridge University Press — used for Indo-Scythian period
  • Cunliffe, Barry (2019). Oxford University Press — used for Saka description
  • Eaton, Richard M. (1993). University of California Press — used for Islamisation context
  • Kenoyer, J. M. (1998). Oxford University Press — used for Harappan civilisation
Tier 3 — Established Pakistani newspapers (WP
RS compliant)
  • Dawn (dawn.com) — used for notable figures section
  • The Express Tribune (tribune.com.pk) — used for notable figures section
Tier 4 — Colonial government records (WP
PRIMARY declared in article)
  • McKenzie, Hector. First Settlement Report of Gujrat District. Punjab Government Records, Lahore. Unpublished government manuscript.
  • Waterfield, W. Revised Settlement Report of Gujrat District. Punjab Government Records, Lahore. Unpublished government manuscript.
  • Rose, H. A. (1883). A Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab. Published colonial reference work.
  • Ibbetson, Denzil (1883). Punjab Castes. Published colonial reference work.

Colonial settlement reports are the only surviving primary documentation of Warraich clan oral history, territorial records and administrative organisation from the pre-colonial period. Their use is explicitly permitted under WP:PRIMARY where no secondary source covers the same specific historical detail. The {{primary source}} and {{primary source inline}} tags have been added to the article accordingly. Any editor wishing to formally challenge this sourcing should open a thread at WP:RSN before reverting under WP:BURDEN.

Per WP:TALKFIRST: editors are requested to raise concerns on this talk page before making substantive reversions to sourced content.

ApexWatcher (talk) 15:37, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

June 2026 edit request

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I am requesting an experienced editor review and restore the sourced content removed in the reversion of 16:01, 7 June 2026. All claims are supported by peer-reviewed journals and major university press publications. Sources listed in the editorial note above. ApexWatcher (talk) 16:22, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

You are not allowed to edit this page as you are not extended confirmed. This includes what is, speaking frankly, a request for proxy editing to end-around the extended confirmed restrictions. You are only allowed to make simple, uncontroversial edit requests. Also your comments demonstrate a complete misunderstanding of WP:BURDEN and WP:CONSENSUS and sound very much as if you are using a LLM to generate content. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:46, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply