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Latest comment: 9 hours ago by Hipal in topic See this

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2026

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Expand the resignation section. Incorporating Trump's and other remarks as well. Example: Trump: "Tulsi has done an incredible job, and we will miss her." LiveforX (talk) 19:01, 22 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. meamemg (talk) 19:30, 22 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
LiveforX, If you can post a url of a reliable source that covers Trump's remarks about Gabbard than I'm sure another editor (including myself) would be happy to assist you in incorporating that into this article. Pending it is presented with due weight. Eruditess (talk) 20:11, 26 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
More generally, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a colletion of miscellaneous information. That Trump would publicly say positive things about someone who resigned is very close to trivial - every President, governor, and large corporate CEO does exactly the same thing when an important member of the organization voluntarily leaves. And such words are therefore essentially meaningless - and certainly unimportant, and therefore not worth putting into an encyclopedia. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 17:41, 24 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

New section - Biolabs

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A new section needed.

Senator Rand Paul wrote June 21, 2026 that:

"They called Tulsi Gabbard a traitor for saying this, the declassified document just proved she was right..."

And:

"Larry Sanger, co-creator of Wikipedia, had a lot to say about Tulsi Gabbard's biolab revelations...

(...40 biolabs in Ukraine working with especially dangerous pathogens...)"

Sourses: Daily Dayton News / Senator Rand Paul on Substack

A new section; anyone in June 2026? Kartasto (talk) 09:00, 21 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Kartasto: Links, please. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 17:35, 24 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
cc: Krista Taubert, Yle
Scientific commentator Dr. Peter McCullough® told Liz MacDonald on the Evening Edit that Ukraine was the largest recipient of the DOD Biological Threat Reduction funding to their biolabs working on pathogens of pandemic potential for dual purposes. The Russia has already taken two Crimean biolabs and an undetermined number of additional facilities in Eastern Ukraine. The risk of lab leaks is astronomical. Stupendous blunder. Courtesy Fox Business, The Evening Edit.
US Funded Biolabs Developing Dangerous Pathogens in War-Torn Ukraine: What Could Go Wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtCuC4Gw15g Kartasto (talk) 06:41, 20 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Need reliable sources to add this to Wiki articles. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 09:20, 7 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

See this

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2026/06/21/tulsi-gabbard-her-guru-mysterious-messages-that-helped-shape-her-political-career/ Doug Weller talk 15:49, 21 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Maybe it's time to properly present her relationship with Butler and his organization? Science of Identity Foundation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has plenty of high-quality references in use, with others identified on the article talk page. --Hipal (talk) 17:41, 21 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
The fact that Gabbard was using talking points from her guru while working as a politician is extremely significant and should be mentioned in the Wikipedia article here. ~2026-34151-47 (talk) 06:48, 25 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I do agree with this. Seems surprising that nearly a month after this story was published, the substance of it has not made it on to her page. Was described as a "bombshell" by various organizations and has not been debunked, nor was the content of the information disputed by the SIF, at least to date. I've added a paragraph. Trying to just be accurate in recording this. NameNotUsed20 (talk) 02:52, 19 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Please note that Wikipedia is not for sensational Tabloid journalism, and we editors need to follow strict guidelines for WP:BLP for articles that are Biographies of living persons:
BLPs articles must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives; the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment.
Therefore, any sentational claims must be mentioned conservatively. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 08:29, 7 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
Also, it's common for many American Politicians to take guidance from their pastors or spiritual guides, even on policy issues.
For example: Ronald Reagan
The Washington Post reported that Reagan met privately with Rev. Jerry Falwell, and that Falwell’s movement pushed Reagan on issues such as abortion, prayer in public schools, and conservative religious priorities.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1983/03/23/reagans-use-of-moral-language-to-explain-policies-draws-fir/77c18410-3584-4239-af03-360aa278cb81/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Obama also kept close ties with several pastors during his presidency.
https://www.christiancentury.org/article/2009-04/obama-prays-over-phone-handful-pastors?utm_source=chatgpt.com
I think Tulsi is being unfairly targetted because her mentor is a guru, and not a pastor. but we have to follow WP:BLP here, as Wiki is not a sensational Tabloid. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 09:18, 7 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
But the comparisons don't apply, as the references show. Again, her relationship with the organization needs to be properly presented rather than what we have now. --Hipal (talk) 16:54, 7 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
OK. I'm not going to fight about this, but:
a) There is an obvious spectrum between "tabloid speculation" and "well-researched journalism" and the WaPo article was (to me) clearly in the latter category (don't know if you actually read the article, and is worth doing so).
b) I question that anyone cared what religious belief her mentor was (I didn't), but it was the nature of the relationship which was completely different from the comparisons you give (Reagan, Obama...). The article maintains that she was not so much advised as "directed", given specific things to say and repeat, that this was done secretly, that she maintained in public that she did *not* have such a relationship with him, that it happened for years, and that she resigned shortly after being told the story would be published. That a public official might have done this seems remarkable. With respect. NameNotUsed20 (talk) 17:19, 7 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
Honestly it looks like it is presented okay in the article after that revert. Maybe even to much, given the Washington Post source is kind of meh on it and does not need the largest portion of her personal life section. ~2026-43395-60 (talk) 19:12, 7 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
The author of the WaPo piece is not a "political commentator," he is an investigative journalist. He obtained over 25,000 pages of political guidance for Gabbard originating from within SIF, some of which Gabbard repeated publicly, almost verbatim, shortly after receiving it. The only question is whether it was from the head of SIF (Butler) or mostly from Butler's right-hand man, Khemaney, as Khemaney told the author of the article. Saying it is comparable to the spiritual guidance Reagan or Obama received is absurd. Moreover, a lot of it was not even advice but rather **commands** for her to do and say specific things, using harsh, demeaning language and implying that she was not an independent actor. ~2026-43525-30 (talk) 21:50, 7 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
Reagan did not receive only spiritual guidance, but actual directions from pastors on policies such as abortion. There are many other articles reporting that pastors demanded certain policies from Reagan, Obama, etc., so it is not much different, except that the tone of the WaPo article was more negative toward Tulsi, since it was presented as an investigative article. Many Texas politicians openly claim that they took certain policy decisions based on directions from their pastors. I am okay with replacing WaPo "political commentator," to "investigative journalist". Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 04:10, 8 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
Pastor Jerry Falwell regularly sent policy guidance to Reagan
In 1982 letter from Jerry Falwell to Reagan's White House, preserved by the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, Falwell wrote to Reagan's chief of staff, James Baker, strongly advising Ronald Reagan on policies such as abortion.
https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/public/2023-05/40-816-198416-F-JerryFalwell-2023.pdf
Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 04:33, 8 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
In Daniel K. Williams's God's Own Party: The Making of the Christian Right, Williams mentions
Reagan's close relationship with Pastor Jerry Falwell, who was regularly invited to the White House by Reagan. The pastor often gave policy directions on abortion and other Christian Right issues, and sought legislation from Reagan. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 04:41, 8 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
Please stop wasting our time with irrelevant comparisons. --Hipal (talk) 16:18, 8 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hipal, if there's more to add on her relationship with this guru, please WP:BEBOLD and add some. Or, propose an edit here that we can gain consensus on. Obviously calling a report by WaPo "tabloid journalism" is not a consensus view.  Muboshgu (talk) 18:01, 8 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
Given the history of editing on the topic, I don't think being bold is a good idea. I'm happy to support anyone who does. Talk:Science_of_Identity_Foundation#Potential_refs should be helpful. --Hipal (talk) 18:26, 8 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

Disinformation in the Russian invasion of Ukraine

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Hey @Werter1995: I saw you added the cat Disinformation in the Russian invasion of Ukraine and was wondering what part of the article supports the disinformation part? The article does not mention disinformation anywhere in the article and the Ukraine section does not seem to support it. Also curious on what part of the article supports re-adding the cat Pro-Russian propaganda as the article does not appear to support that either. PackMecEng (talk) 12:39, 27 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I found myself confused by the categories as well, and I can not tell exactly what they are supposed to be communicating to readers. Tioaeu8943 (talk) 00:03, 30 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
The categories are supposed to be navigation tools, grouping together related articles. Gabbard has said inaccurate things concerning the invasion of Ukraine, but I don't see anything specifically tying her to disinformation campaigns. The definition requires someone deliberately trying to deceive people for "economic or political gain". Dimadick (talk) 05:08, 30 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I'm wondering why more of Ms. Gabbard's conspiracy theories aren't mentioned on the page. She has spread falsehoods and disinformation about covid, Ukraine, and other things as well. ~2026-34151-47 (talk) 17:24, 30 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: Wikipedia is not a vehicle for the spread of wild claims or conspiracy theories. Also, Wiki articles need to follow strict WP:BLP guidelines, which podcasts or Tabloids claiming conspiracy theories do not have to follow. So, those cannot be added on Wiki, unless in a highly reliable source, and if they do not violate WP:BLP guidelines. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 08:54, 7 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

Grammar error/poor wording

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In the resignation section of her DNI tenure it says, “She said that that the resignation would leave her position on June 30, 2026” ‘that’ is repeated twice and the wording isn’t very clear, it should say something like, “She said that, with her resignation, she would leave her position on June 30, 2026” ~2026-39194-62 (talk) 03:12, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for pointing it out. Addressed? --Hipal (talk) 16:15, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply