Talk:Tom Hayden

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Is this the same Tom Hayden from the Chicago Seven (eight) ? - Yes. Dapoloplayer 04:16, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I believe Tom Hayden did travel to Vietnam with Jane Fonda. Dapoloplayer 04:16, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

The article includes this sentence: "He made several high profile trips as a peace activist to Cambodia and North Vietnam during America's involvement in the Vietnam War, including an especially controversial one in 1972 to North Vietnam with his future wife, actress Jane Fonda."

According to Fonda's 2005 autobiography Jane Fonda: My Life So Far, she made that trip ALONE. See page 291 and following.

Lille Lise 13:47, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Apologized for opposition to Vietnam war?

"In June of 2007 on Comedy Central's Colbert Report Hayden publicly apologized for his participation in the opposition to the Vietnam War."

I haven't seen that episode, but I'm thinking there might have been some element of sarcasm there -- but it reads completely straight, so that someone who doesn't know what the Colbert Report is would think this demonstrated a 180-degree change in Hayden's attitude. Can someone who knows more clarify the context? I somehow doubt that his opposition to the war fills Hayden with remorse.

Wordie 23:22, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

He totally did apologize. Watch that shit for free on Comedy Central.com. Colbert tells him thank you twice for apologizing about his participation in the Vietnam War, and Hayden never denies it. Props to Colbert!

• Sigh, no, he did not apologize. Colbert was doing his normal act of pretending to be a right wing idiot and said that Hayden apologizes for it as he ended the interview and Hayden just smiled rather than interrupting Colbert as he went to commercial. Go view the interview. It is just sad how some people have to put lies like this into articles here. I guess it makes them feel they have big penises or something. Fanra 01:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Watch it for yourself. No way in hell he apologized. Oh, and can we all admit... Tom Hayden is a total piece of shit.: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/89058/june-25-2007/tom-hayden

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 14:12, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

"In popular culture"

So why does this particular article need an "in popular culture" section, which are generally discouraged (though allowed), and, in this case, are just crap? --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 06:35, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, removed. - Crosbiesmith (talk) 11:43, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Photo

I hope nobody minds, but I have cropped the photo of Hayden and Fonda (with child) and have improved the lighting and shade.--andreasegde (talk) 11:03, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Mind? I applaud you! And will send you a reward! GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:38, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Current main photo being used for the article doesn't seem to be a good representation of the man, throughout his life, instead showing him in his final months before death. Unfortunately, I cannot provide a better one. --Chachap (talk) 06:07, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Peace Activist?

Hayden has written of Northern Ireland "the Social Democratic and Labor Party [SDLP], drew heavy support from the Irish establishment, including Irish-American political leaders, but their nonviolent electoral strategy was no answer to the British occupation." If with the benefit of hindsight and experience Hayden can write "nonviolent electoral strategy was no answer" then how does he qualify as a 'peace activist'?--Flexdream (talk) 20:21, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Hayden has certainly been an activist for certain peace in certain circumstances but that hardly makes him a "peace activist". I'd agree that he isn't philosophically a peace activist and so I'd have no problem with you removing him from the list. GraniteSand (talk) 23:46, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

References

2007 wasn't really his golden era

A photo from that point in time is not too relevant.2601:449:4582:B3C0:A47A:E066:378A:BA9B (talk) 09:11, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

Characterization of anti-communism in the Port Huron Statement

The section on the Port Huron Statement states:

Refined and adopted at the first Students for Democratic Society (SDS) convention in June 1962, the Port Huron Statement called for a "new left" committed, in the spirit of participatory democracy, to "deliberativeness, honesty [and] reflection." The sponsoring League for Industrial Democracy (LID) took immediate issue. Although The Statement did express regret at the "perversion of the older left by Stalinism," it omitted the LID's standard denunciation of communism. Hayden was called to a meeting where, refusing any further concession, he clashed with Michael Harrington, as he later would with Irving Howe.

The Statement itself says:

As democrats we are in basic opposition to the communist system. The Soviet Union, as a system, rests on the total suppression of organized opposition, as well as a vision of the future in the name of which much human life has been sacrificed, and numerous small and large denials of human dignity rationalized. The Communist Party has equated falsely the "triumph of true socialism" with centralized bureaucracy.The Soviet state lacks independent labor organizations and other liberties we consider basic. And despite certain reforms, the system re-mains almost totally divorced from the image officially promulgated by the Party.

I plan to:

1. Understand the LID 'standard denunciation of communism' and 2. Search for a secondary source characterizing the Statement's approach to communism. Hotnewpotatoes (talk) 17:10, 25 July 2026 (UTC)