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Latest comment: 18 days ago by Slatersteven in topic Update NCCU polling data

“Over 200,000 of Taiwanese served in the Japanese military”

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The word "of" here is unnecessary. I attempted to remove it, but this page is locked. Common error often seen from those for whom Mandarin is a first language. 2ToneEric (talk) 05:26, 10 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Removed, best, CMD (talk) 06:19, 10 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 June 2026

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Add the names of the ROC/Taiwan in all of the national languages including the indigenous formosan languages, Taiwanese Hokkien, and Hakka. ~2026-37485-99 (talk) 03:28, 30 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

already listed in note 1 of Words in native languages Cannolis (talk) 06:13, 30 June 2026 (UTC)Reply


Possible neutrality and due-weight issues in the lead, infobox, and political-status sections

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Thanks for the thoughts. With regard to the lead, I think you answer some of your own concerns in your second bullet, wherein you say, This wording may be defensible in a de facto or common-language sense. That is exactly what an encyclopedia should aim to reflect: de facto, common-language descriptions. The political status and international standing of Taiwan are addressed in later parts of the lead and also extensively in separate articles. It may be worth discussing whether those should be moved earlier, but I think the current first sentence is appropriate.
My issue with your proposal of "self-governing polity in East Asia, commonly described as a country" is that it arguably gives undue weight to the opposing view, that Taiwan is not a country (only "commonly described" as such), and further implies it is part of something else ("self-governing"). Instead of stating a de facto status as-is, it forces the reader to consider political, governmental, and other factors that may run counter to the factual information. No other countries which are claimed by others (Kosovo, Palestine) are described this way. The "self-governing" wording would only makes sense, in my opinion, in some clear broader context (e.g., Niue being self-governing despite its nationals being New Zealand citizens).
I agree with the bullet about the infobox map (that has been discussed in the past and may be worth revisiting because I do think the historical claims, having not been actively administered or politically sought for at least three decades, being presented in the infobox gives them undue weight) and generally with your other points. Butterdiplomat (talk) 02:40, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
It’s obviously an AI generated writing performed by a Chinese burner account. It’s worthless to response and I believe you wouldn’t receive any feedback from him afterwards. Sheherherhers (talk) 16:54, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
No, its not, and its very rude to call ppl "Chinese burner account", which country's burner account are u? Lavender PoisonLeaf 17:01, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Sheherherhers considering your account appears to be a WP:SPA specifically for editing about Taiwan , I would suggest a bit more of a WP:AGF attitude toward other editors would be appropriate even when they disagree with you regarding neutralithy balance. Simonm223 (talk) 17:16, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
On the topic of limitations of polling data I would be interested to know what supporting sources the OP would provide. Simonm223 (talk) 17:17, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
At least this can serve as a point in FAQ. Nicely written, thank you.
(I'd probably also add WP:SPADE link to reinforce the argument that encyclopedias should use practical and se facto language.) 海盐沙冰 / aka irisChronomia / Talk 21:01, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. Fair point about “self-governing” potentially implying that Taiwan exists within some larger constitutional entity, which was not what I intended. I also agree that “commonly described as a country” may introduce unnecessary doubt into what is, in ordinary usage, a common description.
My main concern is not necessarily the use of “country” itself, but the placement of the qualification about Taiwan’s disputed political and international status. I still think there is a reasonable case for mentioning that earlier in the lead, possibly in the first paragraph, without changing the opening sentence.
I also agree that the infobox map may be the clearer due-weight issue, especially if historical or constitutional claims are displayed alongside currently administered territory without a sufficiently prominent distinction. Lavender PoisonLeaf 17:46, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
See talk page archive; all of this has been discussed and rejected multiple times. Slatersteven (talk) 17:08, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
all of them? Lavender PoisonLeaf 17:15, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I cannot see one we have not discussed before in some form, just not phrased the same. Slatersteven (talk) 17:17, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Some of their points have to do with information being out of date and us using old sources when newer ones are available. I would think those, and the points about the limitations of polling data, at least warrant an examination of applicable sources. I'm not staking a strong opinion one way or the other on whether edits should result but, at the very least, we should do better than such casual dismissiveness. Simonm223 (talk) 17:21, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
So let's separate those out and discuss them in isolation. Slatersteven (talk) 17:25, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
That would be fine. Although @Werran should not revise their request according to this discussion as it has been replied to. Simonm223 (talk) 18:37, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
yeah, thank you.got it. Lavender PoisonLeaf 18:58, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Update NCCU polling data

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The public-opinion section is still using NCCU figures from June 2021. The same survey series has now been updated through December 2025, so these figures and the citation title are out of date.

Could someone update the two paragraphs with the latest NCCU data? I am only suggesting an update from the same source, not a change in how the results are interpreted. Lavender PoisonLeaf 20:12, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Seems fair, care to provide a link?. Slatersteven (talk) 10:34, 11 July 2026 (UTC)Reply