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Latest comment: 6 days ago by R Prazeres in topic Changing article name

Changing article name

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I'm moving the article to a new title. Since there is no other major contributor to this article, I'm going to make a bold move and leave an explanation of the choice below. If there is any disagreement, feel free to say so here and we can revert and/or do a WP:RM instead.

The current article title ("Chrabliyine Mosque") is problematic, as it's based on a French style of transliteration and is pretty difficult to read or parse for the average English reader. I've seen that spelling on some local signage (but this too is probably in French, at least originally) and it exists to some extent in the French references, but it's not by any means standard. There is no WP:COMMONNAME as far as I can tell, but WP:USEENGLISH at the very least requires that we focus on English sources. So below is a survey of all the spellings contained in both the currently cited sources and in any other reliable sources I could find that mention the mosque (there's not that many overall, so please feel free to mention any that I missed).

French sources (just for comparison):

  • Maslow 1937: Chrâblîyîne
  • Le Tourneau 1949: Chrabliyin
  • Marçais 1954: Ech-Chrabliyn
  • Gaudio 1982: Chrabliyin ()
  • Métalsi 2003 (p.188): Chrabliyyîne
  • Salmon 2021: Šarâbliyyîn

English sources:

  • Parker 1981: Cherabliyin or Sherabliyin
  • Bonine 1990: Sherabliyyin ()
  • Renard 1998: Sharabliyin ()
  • Métalsi, Tréal, Ruiz 2000: Chrabliyin ()
  • Naylor 2015: Sharabliyyin ()
  • Nagy & Bongianino 2023: Sharabliyyin ()

Again, there is no clear common name, but most of the English renditions are pretty similar; essentially, using "Sh" for the first consonant, then either "e" or "a" for the first vowel, and either one or two "y"s for the last consonant. Since the two most recent English sources surveyed both use "Sharabliyyin" (and even the most recent French source uses the equivalent "Šarâbliyyîn", with "Š" standing for "sh") and since this also follows a common standard transliteration from Arabic to English (see MOS:ARABIC), my recommendation is to use "Sharabliyyin Mosque". R Prazeres (talk) 03:26, 1 August 2026 (UTC)Reply