Talk:Sarah

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It appears that the word surrogate comes from the story of Sarah and Hagar. Kamranmohajeri (talk) 19:52, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 9 January 2026

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vestrian24Bio 04:45, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

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Sarah → Sarah (biblical figure) – I feel like there is not a primary topic for Sarah. There is also the name Sarah, and I think it's a more likely search target. Jq talk 💬 contributions 18:02, 9 January 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. Vestrian24Bio 04:12, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Oppose The biblical figure receives 4 times as many pageviews as the name. People named Sarah are WP:PTMs and should not be a factor in determining the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. For another example, although Mario (given name) is a commonly used name, most people named Mario aren't referred to as just "Mario" and are therefore PTMs, so Mario is about the video game character which has far less WP:LTS than a biblical figure. Greedycell (talk) 02:15, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

• Oppose, the wife of Abraham seems primary, per nom and Greedycell. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:17, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
• Oppose, major biblical figure, clear long-term notability. 162 etc. (talk) 17:36, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
• Weak support though the name derives from the biblical figure the name is likely to be the expected topic to most people per WP:ASTONISH. Crouch, Swale (talk) 23:15, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
• Support, the name is so so ubiquitous that I think a DAB would be a better landing spot.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:35, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Oppose. I would say it’s unreasonable to consider an abstract concept (like a given name) as a primary topic. The concept of Sarah as a given name is just simply flat out not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of “Sarah”. I could imagine it may be true that some users may have some other specific Sarah in mind when they type “Sarah” into search, but a search for a specific Sarah is not the same as a search for a historical analysis of the concept of Sarah as a given name.

TLDR: there are many pages with the disambiguator “(given name)”. Is there a single given name article that doesn’t include the parenthetical disambiguator? Mikewem (talk) 22:00, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

There's a huge number of them, like Steve, for example. See Category:Given names and its subcategories. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 23:14, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

and the article title Lauren is also about the name because there's no biblical figure called Lauren, and because the name was only very popular for girls born from the 80/90s, mostly from developed English-speaking countries. JuniperChill (talk) 16:40, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Also there are biblical figures with these names but they aren't the primary topic: John, Matthew, Joseph Jq talk 💬 contributions 17:43, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

New Testament biblical figures almost always have some sort of epithet or honorific as part of their full common name (John the Baptist, Matthew the Apostle, Saint Joseph, Joseph of Arimathea, etc). In the case of Joseph, there are 3 prominent biblical figures named Joseph so adding the Genesis disambiguator for the one who doesn’t have an epithet or honorific seems reasonable and useful in that case. Mikewem (talk) 18:08, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

And I would note that the John and Matthew pages for the given names are in the format of John (given name) and Matthew (given name) Mikewem (talk) 18:13, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

• Oppose per Greedycell. When users are just typing for Sarah, they are most likely looking for the biblical figure. If it was a different Sarah, they would be using their surname. cookiemonster755 ^(talk) 18:10, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
• Oppose Sarah is a popular girls name for those born between 1978 and 2002 (according to the Wikipedia article about the name) so I definitely see a long-term significance. JuniperChill (talk) 16:40, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

  I think your vote might be mistaken then.@JuniperChill: Ortizesp (talk) 15:19, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

  how? I haven't seen many girls born in the last 10/15 years with the name Sarah. And the name has originated from the biblical figure. Maybe is also cause I haven't really been making RM comments lately (and that I've not made many edits this month/year). JuniperChill (talk) 23:54, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

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• Oppose The name Sarah doesn't appear to be equivalently primary as the nominator suggests it is. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:03, 17 January 2026 (UTC)
• Oppose. The longterm significance of the Old Testament patriarchs and matriarchs is very high. Srnec (talk) 01:32, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
• Support per nominator, and for reasons listed by User:Crouch, Swale and User:Ortizesp above. I'd say the name and biblical figure both have a claim to the notion of "primary topic", and that having the disambiguation page at the basename might be the safest bet. Paintspot Infez (talk) 05:44, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

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