Talk:Rami Malek

Ethnicity in lead sentence: Request for clarification

I noticed there is a hidden HTML comment in the article that says: . This feels inappropriate and biased. Rami Malek has spoken openly about his Egyptian heritage, and multiple reliable sources (such as The National) highlight that he became the first Egyptian to win Best Actor at the Oscars. Given that, it seems both relevant and properly sourced to describe him as Egyptian-American in the lead. The MOS:ETHNICITY guideline says we can include ethnicity when it's relevant to the subject's notability and is supported by reliable sources — and this clearly applies here. I'd like to restore the description "Egyptian-American actor" in the lead with a reliable source (already cited in the article). Let me know if there's consensus or concern, but the current hidden comment shouldn't block good-faith edits or suppress accurate info. Thanks! 197.121.231.25 (talk) 01:30, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

It's an issue of citizenship in most cases. He doesn't have dual citizenship and hasn't done any work in Egypt to bypass the citizenship issue. Per MOS:ETHNICITY: In most modern-day cases, this will be the country, region, or territory where the person is currently a national or permanent resident; or, if the person is notable mainly for past events, where the person was such when they became notable. If you see Timothée Chalamet, it says American and French actor because he has dual citizenship.  oncamera  _{(talk page)} 05:11, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Ok oncamera, if it's an issue of citizenship, who told you he isn;t? on what basis. are you saying you've went around and verified every single dual stated nationality in the 10s of thousands of wikipedia articles are based on passports? do you have copies of all of them. Do you have copies of the naturalized citizens in the US too? the thousands of profiles calling people Americans though they're not born here? you don't and you don't care. Because the obsession to revert this has nothing to do with process and it's all about this deep obsessive insistence on scrubbing away identity of a middle eastern person. He said "I AM EGYPTIAN" and he also, more importantly perhaps, said "I AM A FIRST GENERATION AMERICAN" first not second oncamera, what ELSE DOES HE NEED TO SAY? also, Egypt is not the US, he gets his citizenship through his parents. 4houka (talk) 06:42, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deva_Cassel, Deva Cassel's profile says she's french italian, but she was born in italy. maybe you should delete that too? or only for third world? who told you she has french citizenship? 4houka (talk) 06:49, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

"It's an issue of citizenship in most cases. He doesn't have dual citizenship and hasn't done any work in Egypt to bypass the citizenship issue." this is a false baseless claim. Egyptians don't need to be born there to have citizenship. they get it from their parents, and they don't even have to visit the country to get it (not that he hasn't) 4houka (talk) 06:51, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

You need to include a source that he has citizenship.  oncamera  _{(talk page)} 05:26, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

he said I am egyptian and a i'm first generation american. what other source do you need? what if any source do people furnish on wikipedia? do you want a screenshot of his passport? 4houka (talk) 04:01, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Stop edit warring and follow Wikipedia guidelines per MOS:ETHNICITY. The lead is about citizenship and not ethnicity, please provide a source showing he has Egyptian citizenship before editing it.  oncamera  _{(talk page)} 20:08, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Name in the lead!

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no difference between Standard Arabic and Egyptian Arabic, right? If they're not different, then why include both in the lead? Wouldn't it make more sense to just include that in the native name field in the infobox instead, to avoid unnecessary repetition in the lead? Lililolol (talk) 00:59, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

++ I believe the Egyptian Arabic version is just the pronunciation, right? So why is it necessary if the English one is already there? Plus, isn't he using the English pronunciation anyway?Lililolol (talk) 01:01, 21 July 2025 (UTC)