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This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Phil Spector article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the subject of the article.
This article does not introduce Spector as "a record producer, songwriter, and convicted murderer" due to his notability deriving largely from his music career. Per MOS:CRIMINAL:
Labels such as "criminal", "convicted felon", "fraudster", and "convicted sex offender" are imprecise and could be construed as name-calling or a moral judgement. It is better to describe the specific crime itself. The description and its placement should not give undue weight to the crime. [...] When the person is primarily notable for a reason other than the crime, principles of due weight will usually suggest placing the criminal description later in the first paragraph or in a subsequent paragraph
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Apple Records discography – Needs British LPs and singles, and US LPs. Needs restructuring. I'd propose using the Brit catalog as the basis, and having only those releases which are different in the US section. This might not be practical, however, if the cat. no.s are different (they are for the singles, not sure for the albums). Blue links need to be checked for and, if they aren't already, added to Category:Apple Records singles or Category:Apple Records albums, and the same for The Beatles/solo members singles/albums categories.
Add specific fair use rationales to Beatles-related copyrighted images, especially singles covers (see Image:In My Life - The Beatles.jpg, for example).
Improve all released Beatles songs and covers to C-class, at least.
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In respect to her family this topic should be highlight more and probably a whole section on this. Also he had a reputation of being brutal to women. You would barely know he was convicted of murder in this profile. 81.191.169.226 (talk) 11:31, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Sjones23 Well, how we're doing it now seems to heavily underplay it. MOS:CRIMINAL says "better to describe the specific crime itself", which murder is, so we could just call him a murderer, or better move the sentence about the murder into the first paragraph. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:25, 16 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
Update: I think the current sentence as written by ILIL(talk·contribs), Harvey Phillip Spector (December 26, 1939 – January 16, 2021) was an American record producer and songwriter who is best known for pioneering recording practices in the 1960s, followed by his trials and conviction for murder in the 2000s., would be a much more better approach. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:33, 29 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
"He was born into a first-generation immigrant Russian-Jewish family in the Bronx, New York City." As a suggestion, this sounds better, but this is literally the first time I've felt compelled to correct grammar on a Wikipedia page or submit anything on a talk page, and don't wanna change anything myself so as to not ruffle feathers if I end up being wrong. But glad somebody noticed that besides me. 69.11.38.89 (talk) 23:08, 15 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
level-5 vital article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
