Talk:October 7 attacks
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Hatnote needs to change
[edit]Why does there need to be a hatnote linking to Operation Badr, especially since that operation began on October 6th, not 7th? Instead, the hatnote should instead offer disambiguation with respect to the other most notable October 7th attack of the 21st century, which is the United States invasion of Afghanistan. I'm going to change the hatnote accordingly. JasonMacker (talk) 19:43, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 April 2026
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The use of Al Jazeera English is unreliable according to the perennial source list as this is about the Arab–Israeli conflict. ~2026-21859-16 (talk) 17:16, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cadddr (talk) 17:27, 9 April 2026 (UTC)- Your summary of the AJ entry at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources is inconsistent with the actual statement by the way. To clarify, AJ is viewed as a biased source in the Arab–Israeli conflict context, just like several Israeli sources that are used extensively in articles in the topic area. Sean.hoyland (talk) 18:30, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Sometimes, reliable sources, like Al Jazeera, aren't required to remain neutral or act unbiased, as what this guideline states. Only the text in Wikipedia articles are required to be neutral/unbiased, as I'm presuming it's the case in this specific article. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 18:45, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
Allow for redirect for "October 7th massacres"
[edit]This event involved the murder of 1,200 Israelis and the kidnapping of 200 more, almost all of whom were civilians or non-combatants. This should be rightfully regarded as a massacre and should redirect as "October 7th massacre" or "October 7th massacres". — Preceding unsigned comment added by MagyarNavy1918 (talk • contribs)
- See WP:NOR. Please provide a reliable source indicating the common use of the term, "massacre", specifically to refer to this event. --Yamla (talk) 20:16, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hello, it's been a long time since I've edited any pages, much less talk pages, so I apologize for any formatting issues in advance. There appears to be reliable-source usage for this wording or close variants, so I believe a redirect is reasonable. I'm not suggesting moving the article or replacing the current article title, but rather only in the context of a navigational redirect for a term readers may plausibly search.
- USC Shoah Foundation uses the phrase “October 7 massacres in Israel”: https://sfi.usc.edu/october7testimonies
- UMass Amherst’s Institute for Holocaust, Genocide, and Memory Studies uses “October 7th massacres”: https://www.umass.edu/holocaust-genocide-memory/events/october-7th-hostages-conversation-jonathan-dekel-chen
- TIME uses “The Oct. 7 Massacre” in the headline and “Oct. 7 massacre” in the article text: https://time.com/6330005/the-oct-7-massacre-revealed-a-new-hamas-social-media-strategy/
- Reuters quotes Israel’s Foreign Ministry using “October 7 massacre”: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-revises-death-toll-oct-7-hamas-attack-around-1200-2023-11-10/
- Stanford Report references an event titled “One Year After the October 7th Massacre: Memory, Mourning, and Consequences”: https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2024/10/remembering-oct-7-and-learning-about-israel-gaza-and-the-middle-east
- Given those sources, I do not believe this would be original research. The term is attested in reliable sources, including academic/institutional sources and mainstream journalism. Since redirects are for navigation/search, and since non-neutral but verifiable redirects can point to neutrally titled articles, per WP:RNEUTRAL, I would support creating the redirect from "October 7th massacres" to this article. To reiterate, I am not arguing that this should be the article title; only that it is a sourced and plausible search term. I'm interested in your thoughts, especially if there is a redirect-policy reason these sources would still be insufficient. jlcoving (talk)
- The original request appeared to be original research (WP:NOR) but what you list here shows there's at least a decent basis for such a redirect. --Yamla (talk) 22:25, 10 June 2026 (UTC)
- Given those sources, I do not believe this would be original research. The term is attested in reliable sources, including academic/institutional sources and mainstream journalism. Since redirects are for navigation/search, and since non-neutral but verifiable redirects can point to neutrally titled articles, per WP:RNEUTRAL, I would support creating the redirect from "October 7th massacres" to this article. To reiterate, I am not arguing that this should be the article title; only that it is a sourced and plausible search term. I'm interested in your thoughts, especially if there is a redirect-policy reason these sources would still be insufficient. jlcoving (talk)
Edit request 20 June 2026
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Description of suggested change:
There is disagreement between this page and the page on sexual violence during oct 7 as to how many fatalities occurred. the sexual violence page puts it at 1,139, where this page puts it at 1,195
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~2026-35945-09 (talk) 05:47, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
Not done You did not suggest a specific change. --Yamla (talk) 10:12, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
"Alleged rapes on October 7th" in your summary paragraph
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'Description of suggested change: Multiple investigations by the United Nations, human rights organizations, and an independent civil commission have concluded that rapes and other forms of sexual violence occurred on October 7, 2023, during the Hamas-led attacks in southern Israel. They are not alleged.
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~2026-41184-11 (talk) 00:48, 23 July 2026 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Note that the lead section of the article says that cases of rape and sexual assault "reportedly occurred" and does not use the word "alleged" to characterize them. Day Creature (talk) 04:24, 23 July 2026 (UTC)
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