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Latest comment: 15 days ago by SimpleObjects-9ei in topic users_vOo9qO.rar

Creation

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I moved the content from History of Nintendo to its own article. As there have been more leaks within the past 2 days, I believe this is worthy of its own article that is meant to be about the timeline of Nintendo and their feats.VGPCVGCP (talk) 00:15, 26 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Accuracy

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The page conflates multiple leaks from 2018 to 2020 (all originating from the same hack in 2018) as two leaks in 2020. --HiccupJul (talk) 08:32, 31 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

HiccupJul, I'm not super familiar with the details of the leaks. According to the article, the data was stolen in 2018 but not leaked until 2020. Were there leaks before 2020 too? Popcornfud (talk) 15:52, 31 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
There were leaks by the hacker himself in 2018, some small ones in 2019 and a multiple leaks in 2020. I've been cataloguing all the files that have been shared (including dates, links to origin forum posts, filenames etc) but I'm not sure - would this count as original research? There are news articles on the leaks, but they don't go into much detail. Maybe the archived 4chan forum threads could work as sources? I'm also not sure how much detail this article should go into. Anyway, when I've finished my "catalog" of the leaks (I'm missing the exact dates/URLs for some of them) I will be posting it online for others to use as reference. --HiccupJul (talk) 16:27, 31 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
HiccupJul, thanks for that. We can only go by what reliable sources say (which doesn't include 4chan, unfortunately). See WP:VGRS for examples of the kind of sources we can use. If you can find a reliable source that mentions leaks before 2020 then we can update the article. I haven't looked yet myself. Popcornfud (talk) 17:02, 31 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
I think there are a couple moving parts here. Let's say, for now, that the scope of this article is only leaks about Nintendo that were distributed in 2020 (per the title). It's hard to say for certain that everything that has been distributed in 2020 was the result of one or more 2018 hacks. I think that the exact provenance of the data is not disqualifying for the scope of the article because it's so uncertain and unlikely to ever be known for certain. We'll agree to cover it here as long as it was distributed in 2020 and it was about Nintendo. The other issue is HiccupJul asserts that some of the information in the article currently isn't actually from 2020 but was actually distributed earlier between 2018 and now. This may be true according to their catalogue, but we go by what reliable sources say so 4chan and self-report are not sufficient to verify that. If reliable sources report that it's part of the 2020 leak, we have to go with that, even if we believe it may not be true. We can also expand the scope of the article to include other leaks from earlier if we want to cover them in this article. Axem Titanium (talk) 18:51, 31 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
I see. I think as I continue to collect info about the leaks, I'll also try and find news articles for each leak, for use as sources here. There are some articles that provide evidence linking the different leaks, so they may come in handy. Re. the general accuracy of the page - it seems to all be correct to me, but I've noticed some inaccuracies in the sources themselves. Not sure how those are meant to be dealt with. --HiccupJul (talk) 19:48, 31 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
That would be great. If you see things you believe to be inaccurate within the sources themselves, you can bring it up here and we can decide whether it makes sense to use our editorial discretion and omit that particular source. Axem Titanium (talk) 02:11, 1 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
This page should be specific to the 2020 leaks (April and July) unless it is 100 % confirmed the earlier leaks are tied to it. There's a loose idea that the Malawarebytes guy that did the 2018 leak might be involved but that's not proven yet. --Masem (t) 20:05, 31 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Zammis Clark

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We are definitely sure that Zammis Clark leaked everything. Also, there is a timeline of all the leaks and some more information. Check this out, it's a good article. https://wiki.mariocube.com/index.php/Zammis_Clark_BreachVGPCVGCP (talk) 20:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Clarification

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VGPCVGCP, Zammis Clark did not post anything to 4chan, but all of the data did originally come from him. He sent the stolen files to his friends around 2018-2019 when he still had Internet access, and then that data was gradually leaked over time by his friends or whoever his friends sent them to afterwards.

BroadOn was never hacked. Nintendo of Europe was hacked. Nintendo of Europe had TAR archives of a lot of BroadOn's data, and then that data was downloaded by the hacker, Zammis Clark, then sent to friends, and eventually leaked to 4chan.

The only instance of Zammis Clark techinically leaking anything himself was in 2018 when he posted the long lost Spaceworld '97 ROM to a Discord server. But even considering that to be a leak can be disputed, because he did put a limit on how many people could download it, and the 20 people who downloaded it joined together as a group to make sure nobody posted it anywhere else, until it eventually got leaked to 4chan by someone later on. By 2020, Zammis Clark was already in trouble with the law and unable to use the Internet at all.

About reliable sources, and 4chan, I think the situation is very weird. Regardless of numbers or percentages, a significant majority of the information about these leaks just happens to come from 4chan, however much of it is right or wrong, and a lot of the confusion and misinformation comes from stuff like mainstream news articles and YouTubers wanting to capitalize on the topic. It needs to be made clear that journalists who have no idea what they're talking about should not be what people are relying on for information about this topic, even though things are designed for it to be meant that way. Due to the overall nature of it, it really just takes a certain type of person who's been in the community and knows what's up, to fully be able to understand and communicate about this type of thing.

It is not hard to tell that the reason why whatever Wikipedia has on this topic is mostly either outdated or false is due to Wikipedia's strict policy about reliable sources and whatnot. I don't blame anyone. It's not something that can be easily fixed. However, it can be avoided. Would it be possible to update this page with all the information that's out there, but make it clear to the reader that these are not what Wikipedia would consider to be reliable sources? For example, maybe a notice at the top of the page that says something about that, or maybe it could be made clear through writing, like "There has been a rumor originating from 4chan about the total data from the Nintendo breach being over 2.54 terabytes in size," and then saying "take it with a grain of salt" but more professionally. I think that would be great for this page.

Also, VGPCVGCP, I am one of the people who has been making/editing/writing pages on RGDWiki related to the Nintendo leaks. I appreciate that people have been finding the pages useful. There are a lot more pages that are relevant to the topic than just the one called Zammis Clark Breach, here are a few that I definitely recommend looking at:

Lavacakessss (talk) 23:15, 11 March 2021 (UTC)Reply


Irrefutable proof that Zammis Clark was behind the leaks

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In Early 2018, while Zammis is said to still have had access to Nintendo's servers according to various articles, he took part in a competition to get a high score in some sort of pokemon challenge romhack. He got first place and was able to leave a message. Look to 0:20 of this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro9sH2qHyD8 "Riley" is one of Zammis's aliases. In his message he links to one of his social media accounts that you can verify belongs to him with a few searches. At the end of his message he leaves a "PRNG seed" which is actually a hash of the zip file containing the Pokemon gen 1 source code. This video and that message came out two whole years before any of this leaked to the public. 2601:409:200:1A0C:42B:94A9:A533:61E9 (talk) 22:19, 4 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

That's original research as well as BLP violation. We can't use that at all. --Masem (t) 00:25, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Zammis

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Who is this 'Zammis Clark' figure, and how is he related to this whole situation? Furthermore, how was this leak conducted? WA Stokins (talk) 16:39, 13 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Tera leak

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Tera leak is unrelated to the gigaleak, should be removed 216.11.69.100 (talk) 15:25, 22 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@216.11.69.100 But isn't it somewhat related? It was really just a much larger amount of data stolen, although from Gamefreak. The article SHOULD state (if not already) that the data was stolen MOSTLY from Nintendo. 47.161.27.131 (talk) 22:07, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
In my view, there are multiple things that suggest that this is a separate hack: (1) The data has leaked two years after the last part of the Nintendo leak. (2) The leaker says its a separate hack and has posted some degree of proof through screenshots. (3) This is solely Game Freak stuff, nothing from Nintendo (4) Game Freak has seemingly acknowledged they were hacked recently (5) There are many files in the leak dated after 2018, the date of the Nintendo hack. --HiccupJul (talk) 16:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
To my feeling, I would propose to WP:SPLIT the "Teraleak" into a page with the same name. It is from a different source than the previous leaks and not from the same leaker, which had data from 2018 and before. The Game Freak breach happened around august of 2024, a significant time after the initial data breach. Shipsenthusiast (talk) 10:25, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
What about renaming this article Nintendo Data Leaks (plural) and having multiple sections? One for the Teraleak, one for the Gigaleak? Both quereys could redirect here. JJBez (talk) 12:31, 20 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

"L is real" listed at Redirects for discussion

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The redirect L is real has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 January 16 § l is real until a consensus is reached. consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 20:50, 16 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

users_vOo9qO.rar

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Addition if possible.

According to what I can see, this file was leaked in December 23, 2024, and I just can't find a reliable source for it. Enter it on Google: no search results. The file appears to be related to some sort of old Outlook thing, containing names of test accounts and Nintendo developers, and their mail data.

- SimpleObjects-9ei (talk) 03:04, 9 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Found it. Available at https://myrient.erista.me/files/No-Intro/Nintendo%20-%20Misc/ Annoymous editor (talk) 00:33, 12 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, Anonymous editor- I mean Annoymous editor. However, I have known Myrient since September 2025. And since I actually use Bing as my search engine, I have found a decompiled version of it: https://ia800707.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/1/items/users_vOo9qO/users_vOo9qO.rar
Feel free to document it. SimpleObjects-9ei (talk) 02:15, 12 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Myrient is shutting down, it may not be a source anymore. SimpleObjects-9ei (talk) 03:22, 5 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
I have archived the entirety of the Myrient Nintendo - Misc folder on my hard drive, so it shouldn't be a problem to put it back online. Annoymous editor (talk) 05:56, 24 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Annoymous editor Back on the same thing 2/5 months later. Still no response. Anyways, to not make this too WP:NOTFORUMy, I may say that we shall not add users_vOo9q0.rar (but we may actually list the filenames of the files that Zammis Clark leaked, if appropriate) because there is literally no reliable source confirming this. Despite this amount of shock from the Gigaleak (a.k.a the finding of a Luigi model in the Super Mario 64 source code and all that shenanigans that Clark leaked (an early prototype of Super Mario World with early Yoshi models (or whatever that locked-out file (other.7z (leaked July 24, 2020)) is), the entire source code of various Nintendo 64 titles as well on bbgames.7z (leaked July 24, 2020), Nintendo and iQue having a good email day for Nintendo DS and DSi stuff at from_Nintendo.rar (leaked September 9, 2020), some thing related to Pokémon Platinum, platinum.7z (leaked Septmeber 9, 2020) and 700 GB of remaining stuff to document which is not related to this talk page) led to preservation wikis like The Cutting Room Floor and Hidden Palace documenting said leaked stuff, with a SECOND GIGALEAK targeting Game Freak 2 years later and 2 months after the file was leaked, and a THIRD GIGALEAK on the same company but this time in upcoming Pokémon titles), I have to say what I have to say.
In short, even this showed no WP:SIGCOV of this file. – SimpleObjects-9ei (talk / contribs / CentralAuth) 01:22, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
A list of filenames sounds like it would be appropriate and reasonable to add to the article. Here's a one that could potentially work in the article accompanying the ZIP's SHA-256s (from Myrient). I won't be able to extract them and get their true uncompressed SHA-256 because I don't have that kind of hard drive space.
Annoymous editor (talk) 01:42, 17 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Okay, yeah, sure, as long as a reliable source cites the filenames, but now that you got the entire Nintendo - Misc folder from maybe Minerva Archive, cool! I recommend using RetroReversing as a source as it has done brave enough documenting the Gigaleak, but nothing for users_vOo9qO.rar. There's also information missing for a Teraleak 2 (that 2024 remaster where this time more Pokémon content got leaked to the public), as your list says; here are some sources.[1][2]

References

  1. "Teraleak 2 Research Complete Deep Dive". Pokémon Aaah!. January 19, 2026. Retrieved July 17, 2026.
  2. "Pokémon 'Teraleak' Reveals Franchise's Plans Through ..." IGN (via YouTube). October 15, 2025. Retrieved July 17, 2026.
SimpleObjects-9ei 🏖️/☀️/🥵 19:37, 17 July 2026 (UTC)Reply