Talk:Kurrent

Discussion

I've removed the {move to wiktionary} tag from this as well as the deprecated {substub} tag; it can be more than just a dicdef, but isn't now. Someone who knows the subject and/or the German language might do well to take a look at de:Kurrentschrift and de:Deutsch Kurrentschrift. Also, I'm not sure if "kurrent" as used in English really does refer just to a way of writing German; what little I can get from de:Kurrentschrift tells me that it is used for other languages, especially Arabic. If that's the case, the interwiki link is wrong too. CDC (talk) 02:49, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

The German term "Kurrent" or "Kurrentschrift" refers to any alphabet that has developed by/for handwriting.

I tried to translate the German entry for Kurrentschrift, but it needs some cleaning. I am particularly unsure whether I used the term "script" correctly for "Schrift". (sorry, German native speaker)

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from latin currens=running, handwritten scripts that tend to join individual characters, which increases writing speed, often at the expense of beauty or precision of the characters. Ascenders and descenders are often "looped" in order to increase readability.

Well-known representants of this scripts are the German Kurrentschrift and the Arabic script. But also the Greek and Cyrillian scripts have kurrent handwriting forms. There is also a kurrent script in Hebrew, but the joining of characters isn't advanced very far. Modern Arabic alphabets are all kurrent scripts, with printed forms moving away from forms that are too much joined.

In Palaeography, these scrips are called "cursives".

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MegA 17 Dec 2005 (sorry, my "de"-account doesnt work here and i couldnt create an "en"-account)

f = s

What you deciphered as an 'f' is an 's'.

Was iſt Aufklärung? = Was ist Aufklärung?

It's a long s, not an f. -- kh80 01:13, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Post-war teaching of Sütterlin

I made a change, reflecting the fact that Sütterlin was actually still taught at (West-)German primary schools well into the 1970's, i.e. its teaching wasn't abolished in 1965. I was among probably the last generation of pupils to learn it as part of the regular curriculum, namely in about 1971-72. HH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.228.50.67 (talk) 21:01, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Was it taught as your primary script or were only some lessons taught to explain it? --Pp.paul.4 (talk) 12:41, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

It wasn't taught as primary script, but only to support efforts to maintain the population's ability to read their ancestors' writings ;-) On the other hand, I still vividly remember having to meticulously hand-write all those funny letters and even whole sentences and brief texts, in other words it clearly was more than "some lessons taught". -- HH 85.180.181.56 (talk) 09:43, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

1714 standardization

It seems to me that German Kurrent script was standardized in 1714.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_script

In 1714, a decree in Prussia for the first time introduced a standard script, which is said to go back to the Berlin teacher Hilmar Curas (Joachimsthalsches Gymnasium).[1] Its pointed, right-leaning forms, which largely avoided curves, also became naturalized in other German territories and became characteristic of German Kurrent scripts.

[1] Sonja Steiner-Welz (2003). Von der Schrift und den Schriftarten. Reinhard Welz Vermittler Verlag e.K. pp. 113, 127, 133, 135, 137, 139. ISBN 978-3-937636-47-4. Killoh (talk) 01:55, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Kurrent vs Gothic Cursive

I think this page should be moved to "Gothic Cursive" and maybe "Kurrent" or "In Germany" should be a section. This makes it seem like the handwriting style was only used in Germany, but it was used in the Nordic countries during the 1700s as well, and had variations in each country. You can see, for example, þ being used in Icelandic cursive writing here: https://handrit.is/manuscript/view/is/AM02-0114/3?iabr=on#page/1v/mode/2up