Talk:Javelin throw

All-time top 25 (current models)

What do the different colours mean (brown & green)? There is no key to explain it.

Thanks A Fantasy (talk) 21:42, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Have added a legend. Jmg38 (talk) 04:33, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Very strange but you missed two other 90 plus of Arshad nadeem the Olympic champion. One was at commonwealth games and other was the last throw at the peris Olympics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.32.187 (talk) 22:00, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Older talk

Should the comment of, for instance: Michigan High School track does not include the javelin. Should this really be included? Its uneccesary and cluttersome. I'm editing it out for those reasons. Clavette 21:51, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I concur. Zzorse 00:51, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Terry Bradshaw held the U.S. High School boys javelin record for years. He then went on to win 4 Super Bowl titles in the National Football League. In my opinion he deserves to be included among the list of famous male javelin throwers. I don't know why somebody removed his name.

There seems to be a hack on the men's famous throwers list. I never knew that was a New-Zealand name. I won't go further. I would edit it, but I don't know the real name. 81.165.165.66 19:52, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

The units of measurement for the Javelin throws in the olympics is not shown

Vadims Vasiļevskis

I see two guys have registered that Vadims Vasiļevskis has thrown 90.43 in Riga yesterday. According to IAAFs pages (and others), he "just" threw 88.12. Check: . I would like to see your sources. Grindstein 18:46, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, he threw 90.43 in Riga, not Dessau, see this link - . And also a site from Latvia - , ReinisFMF 08:20, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

No javelin in HS?

Hi guys, its my understanding that javelin is banned in US high schools because of the inherant danger of accidentally tripping onto a javelin or being speared. Is this true? Can there be some mention of deaths, injuries, or banning in this article? Thanks, George

Javelin is not banned nationwide in U.S. high schools. But it is uncommon ("This leaves out such events as multi events, javelin, weight throw, shuttle relays, and race walk, which are not widely contested throughout the US." - DyeState Rankings) It is apparently banned in some some states, ("A student shall participate in no more than four Federation-listed events only, but not javelin in any form." MHSAA Coaches Guidebook ) Rmhermen (talk) 15:43, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Safety

I just axed a mention of the recent jevelin accident in Rome. I don't think we want to catalog accidents here. On the other hand it might be useful to have a section of safety. In that context may these accidents are relevant? This would tie in with the comment above re: Javelin no being thrown in US schools (is this true?) due to safety issues. David D. (Talk) 16:47, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Notable javelin throwers

I think the men's list is too long, maybe the all time top ten should be removed, as they are already mentioned. Thatlot!! 18:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Javelin length

Before discussing the minutiae of adjusting centre of balance, shouldn't the broader picture, such as the actual length of the javelin, be mentioned? Rhialto (talk) 07:25, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Angle of Release

"But still the angle of release is under debate . Athletes prefer btw. 30 - 60 degrees but still scientist say 45 is the best ."

I think until this is quoted, it should be removed. If scientists think it, then they recorded that somewhere, or else they are not very good scientists! Memerson3996 (talk) 17:55, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Technique and Muscle Recruitment

Hello, I added some information about the technique used to throw and what muscles are recruited during each phase of the throw. It didn't seem like there was much information about that.Camisasn28 (talk) 00:36, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

IAAF competition rules link broken

http://www.iaaf.org/mm/Document/imported/42192.pdf

broken link — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.117.97.74 (talk) 11:57, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Erausqui style

Would be interesting to introduce this method, the record that were made this way and its consequent IAAF disapproval. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.103.13.72 (talk) 11:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Spanish Style

In the late 50s in Spain it developed a style of release ("Spanish style" or "Basque style" or "Eurasquin style") that was quickly banned. Major releases were achieved with this style

Specifically, Miguel de la Quadra-Salcedo managed to 112.30 m. There is no reference to that unofficial style or world record. JavierBlancoC (talk) 10:55, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Is there any list or information on best throws and what is the time period it was used in official competitions (at least year when it was banned)? 213.149.61.252 (talk) 15:48, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

name that scientist used in papers was "rotational javelin throwing technique"; it was also called "javelin spin technique" and ""soapy water" technique"213.149.61.122 (talk) 20:20, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

there was original "Spanish style" and "modified Spanish style" (which came about immediately after original style was banned; It is the product of Miguel Salcedo, a Spaniard attending the University of Puerto Rico.) 213.149.61.122 (talk) 20:26, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Old models

If I am not mistaken there've been 3 models of javelin for men: old, serrated tail and new model. Serrated tail was used in period 1986-91.
Women had 2 models: old until 1998, and new.

In the article there is section "Nemeth model (90-91)" which includes women (as a subsection) but years don't match. It also doesn't match with men's model/years. It should be corrected and/or note (explanation) given. 213.149.61.252 (talk) 15:44, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

I will admit to not having a perfect knowledge of how javelins developed in the late 80s and early 90s, but I don't think javelins in the 1986-91 period had serrated tails, apart from the Nemeth model. Certainly all marks set in those years are still considered valid today, with the exception of those set using Nemeth javelins. Hymans and Matrahazi, in their world record progression history, say (after detailing Backley's record from July 1990, using a non-Nemeth javelin):

At this point, a further development occurred with the new javelin. Miklós Németh, the 1976 Olympic champion, developed a javelin under the new specifications, except that behind the grip the implement had a series of serrations which served to make the javelin fly further. This effectively contravened the rules governing the event from 1986, but it could not be legislated against until the IAAF-Congress in Tokyo in August 1991. At that point, the marks which follow for Zelezny, Backley and Räty, which had been approved, were deleted as from 20.9.1991, with the 89.58 of Backley, the longest throw with the regular new implement, becoming the accepted WR.

In other words, 1) the Nemeth javelin's serrated tail was a new development in 1990 and 2) the javelin Backley used earlier in 1990 was a model that remains legal today. You are right that the women's old-model section should definitely not be a subsection of the Nemeth one, though. Sideways713 (talk) 12:55, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Dimpled ???

Dimpled, Serrated tail or Nemeth model #1. What is official? Problem is that each article connected to javelin uses different terminology. I for instance have never heard of dimpled.

Nemeth model #2 introduced by Németh in 1992, used by Železný to throw 94.74 (then a world record), was also ruled illegal for having an additional piece of metal inside the shaft. - it should be added somewhere in the article; guy who "dimpled the article" conveniently erased this. 213.149.62.202 (talk) 22:24, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Fletching

Why the olimpic javelin has no fletching? is it on the rules? (200.112.106.86 (talk) 04:28, 24 June 2018 (UTC)).

Its in the IAAF rulebook Rule 193-4, on page 185. "The surface of the shaft shall have no dimples or pimples, grooves or ridges, holes or roughness, and the finish shall be smooth (see Rule 188.4) and uniform throughout."Trackinfo (talk) 06:41, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Dimpled models - Kimmo Kinnunen

I think there is some inconsistency in this article. I see that in the section for dimpled models (nullified) 'All-time top 5 (dimpled models 1990–1991)', on 4th place there is a throw of

4 90.82 Kimmo Kinnunen (FIN) 26 August 1991 Tokyo

That doesn't seem right since the same throw is also in the 'All-time top 25 (current models)' section above.

15 90.82 m (297 ft 11+1⁄2 in) Kimmo Kinnunen (FIN) 26 August 1991 Tokyo

The reference doesn't help for me, since it only mentions the progression of the WR, not all throws with these models. Maybe all throws in those years were with these models, but that would mean the all-time top 25 is wrong. Number 25 from that list is also from that period

25 89.16 m (292 ft 6 in) A Tom Petranoff (RSA) 1 March 1991 Potchefstroom

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Page Protection

I am requesting page protection for this page due to persistent vandalism and edit wars between Indian and Pakistani editors due to newly set Olympic record by Pakistani athlete Arshad Nadeem, from editing flag to putting name of Neeraj Chopra (Indian athlete) as Olympic record. Despite no reference and just cause of pure hatred the two countries have for each other Wikipedia guidelines has been overlooked.

Kindly put semi-protection on this page for the time being, so people can have access to correct information.

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Pentti Saarikoski and 99.52

I think the item about the fabulous throw of Pentti Saarikoski on October 24, 1956 may be fictitious. There is a Finnish poet by that name, but no known Finnish javelin thrower. The name does not appear in the top 100 javelin results in 1956. Finnish newspapers do not mention the name or such a long javelin result during the first month after Oct. 24, 1956. And I can't conceive how grabbing the javelin by its tail should lead to any increase in length. I think it's a spin much like the "Spanish style" mentioned elsewhere on this talk page. Uttrediay (talk) 21:44, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

falling style - all time results

: "falling style can sometimes lead to injury, it has also produced some great throws, including the current world record of 98.48m set by Jan Železný of the Czech Republic in 1996."
[]: "In June 1959, the 27-year-old had broken the world javelin record with an epic throw of 282 feet, 3.5 inches. Short for an elite athlete at just under 5-foot-8, Cantello was scrappy, and he made up for his slight stature with an unorthodox throwing style: For extra momentum, he’d fling his full body into the throw, falling to the ground during his follow-through."
I think a column should be added like in shot put for technique. This would be "Follow-through" column - official name for the final phase of the throw. Considering most of the throws in the table are of newer date it probably isn't impossible to find sourced information - cca 2/3rds of the throwers finished standing on 2 feet, the other 3rd ended up on all 4's. The table would be benefitial - especially as some like Železný and Pitkämäki had 90m results with both styles. Pitkämäki especially went from one style to another - there is a clear point in his career. There is debate whether falling is beneficial, but we should just present the data. Setenzatsu.2 (talk) 16:14, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

throwing techniques - all time results

Acc to tere are 2 tecniques in javelin throwing: "linear" and "rotational". The article which covers this topic quite extensively states (just a minor preview) "...why is the linear technique being employed by most coaches worldwide?...Why aren't coaches around the world trying to use rotational technique?...The successfull throwers in recent times who have employed rotational concepts have been Jan Zelezny, Sergey Makarov,...,Pitkämäki... The pre 1986 era has shown Nemeth,..., Hohn with 3 being world record holders."
I think it would be good to add column "technique" to the all time list. It's obvious something that is coached, differentiated about and can affect result. Setenzatsu.2 (talk) 16:27, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

Rumesh Pathirage

Rumesh Pathirage threw 92.62 meters at the 2026 Rome Diamond League so this article needs to be updated ~2026-33239-01 (talk) 19:34, 4 June 2026 (UTC)