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Latest comment: 2 months ago by Christianhatley527 in topic Percentage of Muslims

Clearly separate the discussion of self-declared muslims from the discussion of people by ethnic origin

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The article uses statistics on the beliefs and practices of self-declared muslims, but in another part of the article uses ethnic origin to impute (in the statistical sense) religious status. This gives a false impression that, e.g. 70% of moroccan-origin or algerian-origin French citizens practice Ramadan. 132.211.167.138 (talk) 18:49, 21 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Inconsistent information about what percentage of French's population is Muslim

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I was looking at this page for context on some recent political news coming out of France and noticed that the very first sentence contains inconsistent information:

Islam is a minority religion in France that is followed by around 3 million to 5.7 million people in France, which is around 4% of the nation's population.

First of all, the article on France lists a population of 68,373,433, so 3 million to 5.7 million corresponds to 4.4% to 8.3%; 4% is on the very low end of this range. Also, the three citations do not support this 4% number; the first citation says 3% of respondents answered "Islam" in response to "What religion do you feel bound to?"; the second citation says

According to Odoxa (which includes a margin of error of 2.5%), 3% of French people defined themselves as Muslims, 1% as Jews, and 3% as belonging to "another religion."

These figures are to be taken with a lot of caution as it is difficult to constitute a representative panel group to measure faith, which may appear underestimated at first glance. In the case of Islam, for example, some other competing estimates have shown between 5% and 7%, or even more. "This can be explained by the fact that we ask respondents which religion really defines them, not the one they feel closest to," argued Ms. Bracq.

The third and fourth citations actually go to the same link which says "Islam confirms its place as the second religion in France (10%)" (there's a document attached which I haven't read).

Note that the Islam in Europe page cites some out-of-date numbers (7.5% as of 2011 and 8.8% as of 2016), and shows France in the "10–20%" category in the graph.

I don't have a strong opinion as to what the "correct" number is, although I suspect based on the various pieces of data here that 4% is too low, but it seems like Wikipedia should pick one number and stick to it in both of these articles, and make it consistent with the specified population range. rdl381 (talk) 08:56, 15 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Percentage of Muslims

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Where this 13% is coming from ? INSEE published 2 years ago a 10% of the national pop by the way 13% is fake info. 9millions is the purpose of the prime minister but it’s not showed by any publication or statistic. 2A01:E34:ECBD:7500:9D6:BE75:83BA:B24E (talk) 08:16, 27 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

Copied this comment from my talk page (see and ). JimRenge (talk) 20:39, 21 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello here one of my sources https://fr.statista.com/themes/6482/l-islam-en-france/#:~:text=Plus%20de%205%2C4%20millions,de%20France%2C%20derri%C3%A8re%20le%20christianisme.
Also i made those edits because the number of 9 millions muslims in France was incorrect as it was not backed by any source (it's was a random number without sources thrown by the right leaning PM of France). As for the number 5 to 7 millions it's actually because the exact number of muslims is hard to know exactly. Some sources claim 10% of the population, others such as the one i send you say 5,4 millions.
My main goal was to debunk the 9 millions number as it is not backed by official data
So here the reason of my edits (sorry for my english mistakes i'm a native anglophone)
sincerly yours
HF 2A01:CB16:19:3CA7:0:3B:5F3B:4201 (talk) 23:43, 20 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
Statista is regarded as a generally unreliable source in wikipedia but your argument that the INSEE estimate for 2019-2020 is to high may be correct. I have checked the demographics section of Religion in France and found that French government statistics estimate 4% muslims in 2021 and EUROSTAT estimates 5% muslims in 2021.
"Etat des lieux de la laïcité en France - 2021" (PDF) (official statistics) Observatoire de la laïcité, Government of France. p. 37.
"Special Eurobarometer 516 : European citizens' knowledge and attitudes towards science and technology". European Union: European Commission. September 2021. Retrieved 20 May 2023 – via European Data Portal (see Volume C: Country/socio-demographics: BE: Question D90.2.).
The INSEE estimate for 2020 of 11 % (ages 18–49) seems less relevant. (Drouhot, Lucas; Simon, Patrick; Tiberj, Vincent (30 March 2023). "La diversité religieuse en France : transmissions intergénérationnelles et pratiques selon les origines" [Religious diversity in France: Intergenerational transmissions and practices according to the origins (PDF) (official statistics) (in French). National Institute of Statistics and Economic Studies (INSEE). JimRenge (talk) 21:06, 21 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
According to the France Wikipedia article, it says 4%. Christianhatley527 (talk) 17:56, 11 May 2026 (UTC)Reply