Talk:Intercession

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I just reverted a large amount of text that was dumped into this article by an anonymous user, 209.173.53.233 (talk · contribs). It seems to be a straight copy-and-paste from numerous sources, including: . Please let me know if you have any questions. —David Wahler (talk) 17:24, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

In this page intercession is portrayed from an humanistic point of view. in biblical understanding intercession is to engage on behalf of someone before God and is a general calling for all believers, and are commonly practised in families.

What is the Zaidi position? Omedyashar 18:53, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Judaism

The article said and I have deleted "The validity of intercession in Judaism is disputed". The reference was to a person praying to angels to intercede, which is not the same as one person praying on behalf of another, as defined in the article. Pol098 (talk) 13:07, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I think the article starts kind of abruptly with a quote from Timothy. The first Biblical reference to praying for another (that I am aware of) would be when Abraham prayed for Abimelech king of Gerar (Genesis 20:17, cf 20:7) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.179.160.18 (talk) 14:30, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Is this article justified?

The idea of interceding on someone else's behalf does not seem particularly religious. or confined to any particular religion. Surely any Roman citizen would put a slip asking for his wife to be relieved of her pain in Bacchus's grotto, or get his cousin the emperor's favourite to ask for his taxes to be reduced? Interceding, and intercession, do not seem any more interesting as concepts than, say, pleading or arguing. Pol098 (talk) 14:43, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree, I think Wikipedia would lose nothing of value were this article deleted.Wcraig3927 (talk) 04:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I disagree. Intercession prayer is a topic of research in the medical community. I'm a medical student and I have an assignment to look into complementary alternative medicine (CAM) in order to better understand why patients turn to other types of medical practise, and I found this site useful. Furthermore, I think that your reference to Roman practise would add to the historical dimension of this article. And, em, pleading and argument are both wiki pages as well. Sorry. January 2016 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.179.160.18 (talk) 14:39, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Bias / Unsourced

Just found several length paragraphs that use poor English and betray a very slanted and 'preachy' view of intercession. References are made to scientific journals but not sourced, and as such I believe it should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thrydwulf (talk • contribs) 19:02, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

I have just removed a large dollop of information from the page. As stated above, it is poorly written, biased and unsourced. Any problems, please let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basilbrush69 (talk • contribs) 11:03, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Hinduism

Intercession is also done in Hinduism by priests .An addition of section would be greatly appreciated Happy sage (talk) 14:25, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Anglicanism and Intercession

This article asserts that the overwhelming majority of Anglicans are in agreeance with intercession of the saints. This is clearly a high church position, with the low Anglican church in rejection of this doctrine. I would call into question the validity of this purported majority and would suggest that statistical referencing is required to justify it (for example, most Anglicans (who are High Church )(REF). Given the drastic decline of the high churches in recent decades and the steady growth of low church forms I believe that this statement should be either clarified (most High Church Anglicans) or substituted (many Anglicans). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonimasu (talk • contribs) 11:22, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

In heaven

I removed mention of in heaven and this was subsequently reverted by Albertatiran. I believe that this page and others are conflating the concepts of saint and angel. Yes, angels are indeed associated with heaven; however, saints are often entombed on earth. Albertatiran says in the revert summary that "this ["in heaven"] is a point of contention in Islam, specifically among Shia and Sunni sects". The only mention of Shia/ Sunni in the article says that "the widespread Sunni and Shia practice of asking deceased prophets and saints for intercession by praying at their tombs have become contentious issues in the modern Islamic world" – i.e., not in heaven, but on earth. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 08:47, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi! Maybe I should have been more clear: The sticking point in Islam is whether a deceased saint (prophet, imam, etc.) can intercede on others' behalf. In that sense, adding or removing the term "in heaven" does make a difference here, e.g., (most?) Sunnis reject praying at their saints' tombs while Shias endorse the practice. Should this be mentioned in the lede, or should it be left for the body of the article? Personally, as long as the lede is factually correct (in light of the above), both options sound good to me. Albertatiran (talk) 12:05, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Looking at 1.1, 1.2, and 1.3 in Intercession of saints (linked from "asking a saint" in this article), I would say that it is best left out in the intro and included and explained in the body where applicable. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 16:02, 13 March 2025 (UTC)