Talk:Grue jay

Avoid genus short names

Editors working on this page: please avoid using short genus names, as Cyanocitta and Cyanocorax both abbreviate to "C.", and are not then distinguishable - MPF (talk) 17:20, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Potential

@SlvrHwk @MPF I think this has Good Article or even Featured Article potential. But for that to happen, I think there need to be some minor changes, particularly in the Biology section, which could use some tidying up. The statement Two other cases of intergeneric hybridization (hybrids between individuals of different genera) have been documented in the family Corvidae prior to the discovery of the 'grue jay'. seems to assume from those reports that those are the only other cases. I suggest it at the very least be changed to mention that a few other cases have been documented rather than the number. Input would be appreciated . RanDom 404 (talk) 16:33, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

I fear I'm not convinced; the topic is just too low in importance to merit it. Better to work on an actual species, there's plenty still with very minimal pages - MPF (talk) 17:15, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

What matters most is that this is a well-written article with quality illustrations, not whether the topic is the most important (it did receive a lot of coverage last year, so it isn't overtly obscure either). The second half of the biology section is just a bit jumpy in content and structure. RanDom 404 (talk) 17:34, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

• "with quality illustrations" – now there's a case in point; we're lucky that there is a tolerably decent photomontage with the bird concerned with a cc-license; it is the only one that exists with a creative commons license. There won't be another, for a very long time, probably not ever.
• "(it did receive a lot of coverage last year, so it isn't overtly obscure either)" – like any one-off event, it got a lot of interest when it happened. That's already declined, and it's unlikely to be renewed any time soon. Even if there is ever a second hybrid of this parentage, it won't get the same attantion as the first one did.

Sorry to sound a bit negative, but I'm trying to be realistic! - MPF (talk) 19:14, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

That should not affect whether or not it can be a Good or Featured Article. All matters is that it is a well-written article. And it is a unique topic which recieved enough coverage. RanDom 404 (talk) 19:32, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree with MPF here, even if just based on vibes and little else. It's such a short article on a rather trivial topic (not that either of those are especially relevant to GA criteria). But I won't stand in the way of a GAN if that's what you want to do. -SlvrHwk (talk) 18:40, 1 August 2026 (UTC)

I also think this has GA potential, but the lead is quite short, and there are sources in the lead that should be incorporated into the rest of the article, per WP:LEADCITE - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 03:14, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

GA review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Grue jay/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: RanDom 404 (talk · contribs) 16:33, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: MSK (talk · contribs) 02:35, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

I'll be taking this review. Expect comments to trickle in in the coming days. msk 02:35, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

• Could a bit of background regarding the phylogeny of Corvidae be added, e.g. when was the Blue jay and green jay's common ancestor present? doi:10.1080/23766808.2017.1296751 or doi:10.1016/j.ympev.2015.08.020 might be useful.
• I'm still on the fence on whether this should be a GA or a DYK; consider an article scope expansion to hybridization within Corvids, like Hybridization in shorebirds? doi:10.1038/s41559-019-0847-9, doi:10.18699/VJ19.487, and doi:10.1111/mec.15377 might be useful here.
• The sources listed here may also be useful.