Talk:Gombey

correction

i don’t know who made this edit but there is nothing british about the gombey nor caribbean. it’s a mix of african and native american (native indian) culture. 148.252.128.26 (talk) 12:31, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Native influence

@Yuchitown I'm a bit unclear on the exact nature and extent of Indigenous influence on this Bermudian cultural practice. The article notes "a similarity to Native American Fancy dance costumes", but fancy dance comes from the Ponca in the 1920s, so I see no Bermuda link there. The fancy dance article itself says that "Despite its name, derived from an African language, the Gombey dancers of Bermuda appear to owe more to Algonquian traditions, thanks to hundreds of Native Americans sent to Bermuda as slaves during the Seventeenth Century". I'm no expert, but I searched "Gombey" under Google Images and on YouTube, and the practice at a glance looks heavily inspired by West African traditions to me. But again, I'm no expert. That article also describes gombey as a "war dance, with the troupe member called The Bowman or Lead Indian carrying a bow and arrow and often going slightly ahead of the troupe to scout the way on long marches, and the Warriors carrying tomahawks" and that "the steps were recognised by Wampanoag dancers after the Wampanoag and Pequots began a series of Reconnection festivals with Bermudians in 2000." The practice may indeed have a mix of African, Native, etc. influences, but maybe there can be some more clarification and detail here. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 06:18, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Everett "Tall Oak" Weeden, self-identified Wampanoag descendent was the one who traveled to Bermuda to find Wampanoag descendants. I'll check out the article. Yuchitown (talk) 15:27, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Some of the uncited material is completely speculative, so I removed some of the most tangental. All the genetic discussion seems off-topic and definitely WP:UNDUE. I tried to identify paragraph topics with more subheadings and flagged the entire article for WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH, which can be removed when more speculative, uncited material is either removed or cited. Yuchitown (talk) 15:43, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

The film section was wp:promo and wp:undue for a single documentary with uncited speculation about future films. If any other editors want to see what I removed, here is the DIFF. Yuchitown (talk) 15:49, 23 April 2025 (UTC)