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Should gaza be described as an ethnostate?
[edit]Due to the demographics, it appears to be an ethnostate. Would adding this as a description help it be more accurate and unbiased? Generikuser (talk) 02:36, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Are there sources that characterise it as such? Alaexis¿question? 14:06, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Gaza isn’t a state The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 05:43, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 October 2025
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Remove the split section proposed template from the History section, as this split has been made (History of the Gaza Strip).
Seantavius (talk) 15:46, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Proposed section under the status
[edit]- Pockets of territory controlled by the Counter-Terrorism Strike Forces and Popular Forces
Requested move 13 November 2025
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- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 00:41, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
Gaza Strip → Gaza – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The term Gaza is now widely used to refer to the entire Gaza Strip, particularly following the Gaza war. A simple search for “Gaza” shows that sources use it as shorthand for the Gaza Strip. Gaza has become the common and primary name for Gaza strip. — Cinaroot (talk) 08:08, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- | Google trendsCinaroot (talk) 08:15, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Such a change would create confusion between Gaza City and the Gaza Strip. In addition, the difference between the city and the Strip is significant, and the fact that the media shortens the name for convenience shouldn’t affect Wikipedia. If we do that, why not change the article title “United States” to “America,” since many people call it that? BlookyNapsta (talk) 13:41, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose – nothing has changed since April. This article doesn't even get double the pageviews of Gaza City, so there's no primary topic, and we should be looking at the first occurrence in sources as we're considering the title here. Especially in higher-quality sources, Gaza Strip is consistently used over Gaza in introducing the territory. New York City is 4:1 against New York (state) in terms of pageviews in a very similar situation, and arguments to move it to the basename of New York have consistently failed. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 16:58, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. The ancient city that forms its core is just as notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:42, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
- This doesn't make Gaza City is less notable. “Gaza” is overwhelmingly used in high-quality international sources to refer to the Gaza Strip, not specifically Gaza City. That shift in usage is what prompted the request. If reliable sources were predominantly using “Gaza” to mean the city, that would support keeping the current titles, but sourcing trends indicate otherwise. Cinaroot (talk) 19:10, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
- When two topics are equally notable we don't make one primary. That's the point. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:18, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- This doesn't make Gaza City is less notable. “Gaza” is overwhelmingly used in high-quality international sources to refer to the Gaza Strip, not specifically Gaza City. That shift in usage is what prompted the request. If reliable sources were predominantly using “Gaza” to mean the city, that would support keeping the current titles, but sourcing trends indicate otherwise. Cinaroot (talk) 19:10, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. The ancient city that forms its core is just as notable. Srnec (talk) 16:33, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
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- Oppose The city certainly has a notability itself beyond the fact that it's part of the strip.Lukewarmbeer (talk) 11:25, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose The current name "Gaza Strip" is unambiguous in that it is clear in referring to the territory as a whole rather than just the city. Dn9ahx (talk) 12:52, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
RfC: Whether to state that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, in this article
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived record of a request for comment. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Following the RfC's on Gaza genocide and Israel, there is a large consensus to state that it is a genocide in Wikivoice.
However, after changing this article to align with this, it was reverted, and I don't want to start an edit war, so an RfC is the best way to solve this.
Currently, the wording is this: "Israel's actions in Gaza since the start of the war that began in 2023 have resulted in large-scale loss of life, mass population displacement, a humanitarian crisis, and an ongoing famine.These actions have been described by scholars, international law experts, and human-rights organizations as constituting a genocide against the Palestinian people."
My proposed idea is this; if anyone has a better-worded sentence, we can use that as well:
"Israel's actions in Gaza since the start of the war that began in 2023 are genocidal, resulting in mass population displacement, a humanitarian crisis, and an ongoing famine."
TheSilksongPikmin (talk | contribs) 12:50, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Close, discuss this with the reverter first per WP:RFCBEFORE and try to find a consensus. Also see WP:BRD, when reverted you're supposed to discuss, the options aren't just edit war or rfc Kowal2701 (talk) 13:12, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- They reverted and stated there was no consensus in the edit summary, so I am starting this to get one specifically about this page. TheSilksongPikmin (talk | contribs) 13:21, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- You could resolve the dispute through normal discussion by just pinging the reverter. Not all disputes must be resolved with a full-blown RfC. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 14:18, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- They reverted and stated there was no consensus in the edit summary, so I am starting this to get one specifically about this page. TheSilksongPikmin (talk | contribs) 13:21, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- (Summoned by bot) Certainly there are better uses of editor time than opening RFCs on hot button political topics that would be better evaluated after further development and with more temporal distance. This RFC does not appear to improve the project and primarily attracts advocacy driven participation rather than constructive editorial input. Procedural close, as the requirements of WP:RFCBEFORE were clearly not met. Nemov (talk) 13:54, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Can we at least wait until this closure review is over before applying the Israel RfC result to other articles? This feels rushed. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 14:16, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Moratorium on gaza genocide rfcs anyone? Kowal2701 (talk) 14:26, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 January 2026
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Change "Since Spetemnber 2025," to "Since September 2025," under Project New Gaza ~2026-17883-5 (talk) 11:52, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
Infobox
[edit]Gaza Strip قطاع غزة | |
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| Status | Governed by a provisional government under UN Security Council Resolution 2803 and a multilateral agreement between Hamas and Israel. Claimed by Palestine.[a] |
| Capital and largest city | Gaza City 31°30′53″N 34°27′15″E / 31.51472°N 34.45417°E |
| Official languages | Arabic |
| Ethnic groups | Palestinian Arabs |
| Religion |
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| Demonyms | Gazan Palestinian |
| Government | United Nations mandated provisional government responsible to the Board of Peace |
• Chairman of the Board of Peace | Donald Trump |
| Ali Shaath | |
| Area | |
• Total | 365 km2 (141 sq mi) |
| Population | |
• 2025 estimate | ~2,050,000[2] |
• Density | 5,967.5/km2 (15,455.8/sq mi) |
| Currency | Israeli new shekel Egyptian pound[3] |
| Time zone | UTC+2 (EET) |
| UTC+3 (EEST) | |
| Calling code | +970 |
| ISO 3166 code | PS |
Gaza has emerged as a separate entity under United Nations Security Council Resolution 2803, which codified a treaty between Hamas and the State of Israel for the strip to be governed by a technocratic board of Palestinians from factions such as Fatah and Hamas, responsible to Trump's Board of Peace, which have both began operating fairly peacefully over the past few days. For that reason I propose the following amendments to the infobox:
- The status section be updated to say: Governed by a provisional government under UN Security Council Resolution 2803 and a multilateral agreement between Hamas and Israel. Claimed by Palestine.[b]
- The emblem of the NCAG should be added as appears in Gaza Strip under Resolution 2803
- government_type be added as: United Nations mandated provisional government responsible to the Board of Peace
- leader_title1 as Chairman of the Board of Peace and leader_name1 as Donald Trump
- leader_title2 as Chief Commissioner[4] of the National Committee for the Administration of Gaza (reference included because the title is often erroneously called Chair, Chairman or General Commissioner) and leader_name2 as Ali Shaath
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Coleisforeditor (talk) 17:03, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Per WP:BRD I've reverted the proposed edit. I think it's extremely premature to make this edit, let alone to declare that Gaza is a separate entity in a way that overrides the existing status of the territory. We're WP:NOTNEWS and nor are we a WP:CRYSTAL. United Nations Security Council Resolution 2803 welcomes the "Board of Peace" and endorses creating the new framework but does not establish a new, solitary territory. It is unclear what form this will take per RS, and the NCAG is not the ruling body of Gaza, it is "overseeing" the reconstruction and has limited operational authority. An infobox like this one is meant to provide information already on the page, not unilaterally decide the contents of the page for us. Smallangryplanet (talk) 21:19, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- NCAG is the civilian government of Gaza at least, and it would appear Hamas has ceded control to it given it is participating in the committee, despite its opposition to the initial resolution. It may be arguable that it is too early but it appears to me as a UN mandated interim government that has been recognised by both parties of the war. The history section talks about the Board of Peace and the NCAG in future tense at the end, so I accept that could be fixed to "make way" for the new infobox; I may get to that in a bit if no one else does it before me. Coleisforeditor (talk) 21:28, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Note that I am not trying to imply Gaza is a separate sovereign entity, just that it has emerged as having a separate government/administration recognised by all parties of the war. My proposed updates themselves do not imply it is permanently independent, and calls it a provisional government. Coleisforeditor (talk) 21:37, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- It's not a UN mandated interim government, though? I'm not sure we refer to it that way on the page for the committee given that we make it clear that
The committee has no political powers to represent Gazans or establish international relations. It exists outside the framework of the Palestinian Authority, which grants all official documents to Gazans and manages education, health, relief, and other sectors there to varying degrees
. It's a committee intended to handle civilian affairs, not an interim government. I've removed the "interim government" description from the page. Reliable sources do not refer to the NCAG as the government of Gaza. Smallangryplanet (talk) 11:31, 23 January 2026 (UTC)- Reliable sources don't seem to agree:
Under the principles, NCAG would be the initial governing body, with authority later transferring to the Palestinian Authority after reforms.
— The Jerusalem Post (note that I do not consider this an extraordinary claim about the Israeli-Palestinian conflictUS launches phase two of plan to end Gaza conflict, including creation of transitional authority
- [...] establishing a group of Palestinian experts to govern Gaza.
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- The National Committee for the Administration of Gaza (NCAG), which is described as a transitional technocratic body, will be responsible for administering daily affairs in Gaza.
— Sky News Executive committee responsible for overseeing postwar management of Gaza also includes Witkoff, [...]
- The White House on Friday unveiled the members of a key international panel that will oversee the postwar management of Gaza.
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- The Executive Committee will oversee the National Committee for the Administration of Gaza (NCAG), the similarly new panel of Palestinian technocrats that will be responsible for providing basic services to Gazans.
— The Times of Israel (same as my note for the Jerusalem Post, but if WP:RSP is to be relied upon, bias is less of an issue here) The Palestinian committee tasked with overseeing the future administration of Gaza as part of a US-backed ceasefire plan has released what it says is a “mission statement”, laying out its key priorities and goals.
— Al Jazeera (same notice as Jerusalem Post, but both biases agreeing is a good sign)The body is set to supervise a transitional Palestinian technocratic government in the Gaza Strip, called the National Committee for the Administration of Gaza (NCAG)
— Encyclopædia BritannicaUS launches phase two of Gaza peace plan with new technocratic government
- US envoy Steve Witkoff has announced the start of phase two of President Donald Trump's plan to end the war in Gaza, with a technocratic Palestinian government established in the territory.
— BBC News The US has announced the start of the second phase of the Gaza ceasefire, including the creation of a committee of Palestinian technocrats who are supposed to take over the day-to-day running of the territory for a transition period.
— The Guardian- It would appear that reliable sources are referring to it as a provisional government, I am willing to instead refer to it as an interim government, but they mean the same thing.
- On your fears the Palestinian Authority has legitimate control, they recognise the committee as having power in the
transitional phase
. The PA - which is dominated by Fatah, Hamas's rival - also expressed support.
- Vice-President Hussein al-Sheikh said Trump's leadership urged all Palestinian factions, institutions and segments of society to "ensure the success of this critical transitional phase". He also stressed the importance of linking institutions in the West Bank and Gaza in order to uphold "the principle of one system, one law, and one legitimate weapon".
- According to Trump's plan, the PA will take over governing Gaza once it has completed reforms and can do so "securely and effectively".
— BBC News - Hamas also recognises the committee.
Coleisforeditor (talk) 15:22, 23 January 2026 (UTC)Earlier on Wednesday, Hamas and its ally Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) said in a joint statement that they had agreed to support the efforts to form the technocratic Palestinian government "while providing the appropriate environment" for it to begin work.
— BBC News
- NCAG is the civilian government of Gaza at least, and it would appear Hamas has ceded control to it given it is participating in the committee, despite its opposition to the initial resolution. It may be arguable that it is too early but it appears to me as a UN mandated interim government that has been recognised by both parties of the war. The history section talks about the Board of Peace and the NCAG in future tense at the end, so I accept that could be fixed to "make way" for the new infobox; I may get to that in a bit if no one else does it before me. Coleisforeditor (talk) 21:28, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
A potential reference
[edit]Greetings and felicitations. Since there is no "Further reading" section, I am posting this here:
- Norman, Julie M.; Hallward, Maia Carter (2026). Gaza: The Dream and the Nightmare (First hardcover ed.). Cambridge, UK: Polity Press. ISBN 9781509565016. OCLC 1545082163.
Edit request 24 June 2026
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Description of suggested change: Update the population with current number by UNRWA: "The Gaza Strip has a population of approximately 2.4 million people" Source link: https://www.unrwa.org/where-we-work/gaza-strip (The UNRWA actively updated this page. In 2023, the page said "2.1 million", currently they updated it to "2.4 million")
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ArchivistNotes (talk) 02:15, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
Not done: The UNRWA page is a primary source and an approximate primarily tied to refugee numbers (as mentioned in the source). Wikipedia uses stats from dedicated demographic and statistical authorities, so if you can find an updated source like this then re-request the edit. Pr0m37h3u$ 11:48, 23 July 2026 (UTC)
Can someone update the population with the correct current estimate?
[edit]By the UNRWA: "The Gaza Strip has a population of approximately 2.4 million people" Source link: https://www.unrwa.org/where-we-work/gaza-strip
(The UNRWA actively updated their page. In 2023, the page said "2.1 million", currently they updated it to "2.4 million")
In place of:
Population • 2025 estimate ~2,050,000
Suggested edit:
Population • 2026 estimate ~2,400,000 ArchivistNotes (talk) 02:19, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
Not done: The UNRWA page is a primary source and an approximate primarily tied to refugee numbers (as mentioned in the source). Wikipedia uses stats from dedicated demographic and statistical authorities, so if you can find an updated source like this then re-request the edit. Pr0m37h3u$ 11:48, 23 July 2026 (UTC)
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