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Delete "The historiography (history of the histories) of the First Crusade and the Crusades in general, as expected, show works that reflect the views of the authors and the times that they lived in."
Subject: Proposal to clarify the Byzantine role as a "Co-belligerent" rather than a "Crusader State" The Text: "I suggest a more nuanced classification of the Byzantine Empire's involvement. Historically, the Byzantine goals were fundamentally different from the Crusaders' ideological mission. After the defeat at Manzikert (1071), the Empire sought 'Restoratio Imperii' (territorial restoration) rather than a religious crusade. Key evidence of this divergence includes: The Siege of Nicaea (1097): Where the Byzantines conducted secret negotiations with the Seljuks to take the city, specifically to prevent Crusader looting. Strategic Realism: The Byzantines often viewed the Crusaders as a threat to Constantinople, leading to alliances with Muslim powers (e.g., the Byzantine-Ayyubid treaty during the Third Crusade against Barbarossa). I propose adding a note to the infobox or a specific sub-section to distinguish Byzantine 'Imperial Policy' from Crusader 'Religious Zeal.' Sources: Komnene, Anna. The Alexiad. Frankopan, Peter. The First Crusade: The Call from the East. Harris, Jonathan. Byzantium and the Crusades."
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Clarifyingthe Byzantine role based on primary sources (The Alexiad) and modern scholarship (Peter Frankopan), distinguishing imperial goals from Crusader ideology Kerokerk (talk) 06:19, 29 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
correct map of Map of the Byzantine Empire (867-1081)
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@Amitchell125:please correct your map in this article as the source you indicate in the map even shows that the 1025 and 1081 lines should be flipped. 1025 represents the heights of the empire after Basil II and then the conquests by the Seljuks take place by 1081. Gilfanon (talk) 21:04, 22 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
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Done Removed this pointless sentence. Day Creature (talk) 16:22, 15 January 2026 (UTC)