Talk:Dead!/GA1

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Nominator: Launchballer (talk · contribs) 04:37, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Cathodography (talk · contribs) 13:17, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello! I'm happy to review this. This is only my third review and I appreciate your patience. Cattos^💭 13:17, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Nice work on this short article. Happy to  Pass !

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Comments

• Earwig looks solid at 12.3%.
• Nothing strikes me as unreliale, though the website and author parameters need some working. Ex. "Classic Rock – issue 01/2025". yumpu.com and thesoundboardreviews (30 January 2018). "ALBUM REVIEW: 'The Golden Age Of Not Even Trying' by Dead!". The Soundboard

I think I got them all.--Launchballer 21:37, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

• The genres in the infobox should be sourced.

I cut them.--Launchballer 21:37, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

• The lead claims that the band moved to London on March 2016, but the body says June 2016.

Fixed lead.--Launchballer 21:37, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

• "Matlock told CM Kavanagh" which Matlock?

Sam.--Launchballer 21:37, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

• "that the band took its name from a folder he had compiled of songs he had made in case he was hit by a bus and the ! was added as the band were fans of Dangerous!." --> "that the band's name came from a folder of songs he had compiled in case he was hit by a bus. The exclamation mark was added because the band were fans of the punk band Dangerous!."

Amended.--Launchballer 21:37, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

• "The band's members are from the Isle of Wight but formed a band in 2012"; "formed a band" is slightly redundant given that "The band's members... formed".

Changed "The band's" to "Its".--Launchballer 21:37, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

• "and played their first gig that year." The word "gig" is also informal. Could be "The band's members are from the Isle of Wight but formed in 2012 while at Southampton Solent University, playing their first live performance that year."

Amended.--Launchballer 21:37, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

• "They were Zane Lowe's "Next Big Hype" the year after." What exactly does this mean? Is this a quote?

Cut.--Launchballer 21:37, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

• "In 2014, the band released the EP 'Tu Me Manques' " EPs are italicized per MOS:POPMUSIC.

Amended. I think that's everything.--Launchballer 21:37, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

• "manufacturing their own zines and clothes" could be "creating their own zines and clothes" or "producing their own zines and clothes" for slightly better flow. "Manufacturing" sounds a bit industrial for zines/clothes made by a band.

Changed to reviewed.--Launchballer 12:43, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

• The capitalization of "The" in "The Damned Restless Future" should be reviewed.

I added quote marks.--Launchballer 12:43, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

• Wikilink demo

Added.--Launchballer 12:43, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

• "A further single release, October's 'The Golden Age of Not Even Trying' " This wording may come across as confusing, especially for "October's".

I moved the last sentence of the previous paragraph into this one. I think this makes things clearer.--Launchballer 12:43, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

• "both took their title from the fact that the band felt society was living in it." --> "both titles reflected the band's view that society was living in such an age." The current phrasing is a bit clunky.

Amended.--Launchballer 12:43, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

• "Matlock later formed Wargasm with the band's photographer Milkie Way, while Frank Carter, whom Dead! had supported in 2016, later became the lead vocalist of the Sex Pistols at Louis's suggestion." This sentence is a bit of a run-on. It combines two distinct pieces of information. It would be clearer as two separate sentences or by using a semicolon.

Moved Carter to earlier.--Launchballer 12:43, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

In "Also in 2016, Dead! supported Frank Carter, who later became the lead vocalist of the Sex Pistols at Louis's suggestion", does this mean that since 2016 Carter supported Dead, or in 2016 he became the vocalist for Sex Pistols? (it also doesn't mention Carter as a member in Sex Pistols#Band members, just a touring musician.)

Neither. It means they supported Carter in 2016 and that at some later point - which is almost certainly about but I don't believe there's a source that has it that mentions Dead! and is therefore undue - Carter became the vocalist for the Sex Pistols.--Launchballer 17:53, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

The sentence implies that Frank Carter became the official Sex Pistols frontman, but that's not how the source frames it. It omits that at the time, Frank Carter was performing with Frank Carter and the Rattlesnakes, not as a solo act. It also describes a more informal reunion involving Carter at Louis's suggestion, rather than a formal Sex Pistols lineup change. It may be unnecessary to include Carter's later involvement in Sex Pistols, since this event doesn't tie to Dead!'s career or notability.

I trimmed this.--Launchballer 18:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

• Unitalicize AllMusic and wikilink hard rock, pop-punk and grunge. (After reading that quote, you could include the band's genres as hard rock.)

Done all five.--Launchballer 12:43, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

• "You're so Cheap" (2018) in Singles list: The "History" section states "by the following month [June 2016], they had moved to London and released 'You're so Cheap' ". However, the "Singles" discography lists "You're so Cheap" as (2018).

"You're so Cheap" appears to have been released in 2016, hence why it's in prose, and given a rerelease in 2018 that received no coverage. I listed it as 2018 in the Discography section as I can't find any evidence the former received an official release rather than, say, a SoundCloud or a YouTube upload, hence why it's listed as that in the Discography section.--Launchballer 12:43, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

If 2016 is the initial release, update the discography to reflect that. If 2018 was a re-release, you can optionally clarify that in the discography.

Again, I can't find evidence that the 2016 version was an official release. I added 'a music video for', as the source confirms that.--Launchballer 17:53, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Spotcheck

• [1] Dead! comprised Alex Mountford, Sam Chappell, Sam Matlock, and Louis Matlock.
• [3]a Sam told CM Kavanagh of The Edge that the band's name came from a folder of songs he had compiled in case he was hit by a bus. The exclamation mark was added because the band were fans of the punk band Dangerous!. The connection to the word "Dead" might not be obvious to all readers. Maybe something like "came from a folder of songs labelled 'Dead' "?
• [4]a Its members are from the Isle of Wight but formed a band in 2012 while at Southampton Solent University
• [8] By September, they were performing in unusual places and producing their own zines and clothes as part of a movement they called "The Damned Restless Future" after a lyric from an early demo of theirs
• [10] In March 2017, they released "Enough, Enough, Enough", a track about Mountford's personality defects
• [14]a The band released that album in January 2018; consisting entirely of songs recorded live You can include the day the album was released since it is mentioned in the source.
• [21] although a very negative review came from The Soundboard.
• [24] Rob Wacey of AllMusic described the band as a "hard rock outfit that flirt with elements of pop-punk and grunge"

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