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Politics section - additional information
[edit]Reading the article, I see that the Politics section does not mention the Crimean parliamentary elections, the most recent in 2024, or the fact that 4 members of the Russian Duma represent Crimean constituencies, with another one representing Sevastopol. Can this detail be added? 2A00:23C8:3D81:7801:E8BC:C4D2:6856:9648 (talk) 16:15, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi 2A00:23C8:3D81:7801:E8BC:C4D2:6856:9648, thank you for your comment! Could you please state your sources for this? Friendly, Lova Falk (talk) 06:06, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Demographics
[edit]Listing in the Crimea article the ethnic composition of the Taurida Governorate as per the 1897 Russian Empire Census is not only unnecessary, but also misleading. Crimea's population composition was very different from other uyezds in the Taurida Governorate. Commingling these numbers serves only to confuse and create incorrect impressions given that the 1897 Russian Empire Census provided figures specific to just Crimea. Instead of: "The 1897 Russian Empire Census for the Taurida Governorate reported 196,854 (13.06%) Crimean Tatars, 404,463 (27.94%) Russians and 611,121 (42.21%) Ukrainians. But these numbers included Berdyansky, Dneprovsky and Melitopolsky uyezds, which were on the mainland, not in Crimea." The text should say: "The 1897 Russian Empire Census for Crimea reported 194,294 (35.6%) Crimean Tatars, 180,963 (33.11%) Russians and 64,703 (11.8%) Ukrainians. Jews (including Krymchaks and Crimean Karaites) represented about 5% of the population. Other minorities included Armenians, Bulgarians, Belarusians, Germans, Greeks, Roma (gypsies) and Turks." 71.105.71.116 (talk) 19:09, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- Per WP:BOLD I just removed this sentence. The article already contains the data for the peninsula in the table below, so there is no need for duplication. Alaexis¿question? 20:14, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
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Link for source 37 "Marxsen, Christian (2014). The Crimea Crisis – An International Law Perspective" isn't working and needs to be updated. Lovelikat (talk) 21:22, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Done - Added archive link. LizardJr8 (talk) 21:58, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
The demographics section needs to be updated with details from the 2021 census
[edit]I would update if I were not prevented from editing.. can someone with permission do it. 2A00:23C8:3D81:7801:E1BD:CF4E:5EE2:41C1 (talk) 17:42, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
Not done The 2021 census is an official Russian source and therefore not reliable. Rsk6400 (talk) 06:57, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
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Where is that artificial cutoff between ancient and medieval history (341 AD) coming from, is that even historically defensible? I propose something more vaguely like:
Antiquity
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The southern coast gradually consolidated into the Bosporan Kingdom, which was later incorporated into the Kingdom of Pontus in Asia Minor and subsequently became a client state of the Roman Empire from 63 BCE. Roman influence in the region persisted into Late Antiquity, incrementally transitioning into the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) sphere.
Medieval history
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The south coast remained predominantly Greek in culture for nearly two millennia, including under the Eastern Roman Empire (commonly known as the Byzantine Empire), the Empire of Trebizond (1204–1461 CE), and the independent Principality of Theodoro (until 1475 CE). Tetrarchyenjoyer (talk) 23:06, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Not done Please provide valid resources for your addition. VerdictByLogic - Let's Discuss 14:02, 17 April 2026 (UTC)- But really does it? Because my reasoning for the change is the following: The current statement, as in the arbitrary cutoff at 341 between antiquity and the medieval time, is factually inaccurate in at least three aspects. First, the date appears to be based on the end of the Bosporan Kingdom’s client-king dynasty; however, the conclusion of this lineage is not as clearly defined as claimed, and can only be dated very broadly after this point. Second, the decline of Roman influence is far more complex than implied. Secondly, roman power (here also understood as an end-marker of antiquity) did not end at a single, clearly defined moment but rather somewhere between the 3rd or 4th century; it diminished gradually over time. Third, there was also no abrupt transition from Roman to Byzantine rule; in fact, the Byzantine Empire is more accurately understood as a continuation of the Roman Empire. Accordingly, scholars typically date the beginning of the Byzantine period either within the early 4th century (founding of Constantinople) or somewhere betwen the 6th–7th centuries (in connection with the reign of Justinian I or the Arab conquests). Therefore and light of this, the 341-date is not only arbitrary but also misleading, as it imposes a false sense of precision on a complex historical process and does more harm than good here. I would consider this as somewhat general knowledge. Unfortunatly I have neither the time for the research to proof my changes in detail nor do I even know how to citate this surface level of information. And on the other hand, the 341-claim doesn't come with any reasoning or citation at all; shouldn't that be removed even without my contribution?Tetrarchyenjoyer (talk) 18:45, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, I got your point. As per wikipedia terms and policies, nothing can be added without any reliable soures. Thus, if you have any secondary reliable source, Independent article etc supporting your change then please provide us. Thank you. Regards, VerdictByLogic - Let's Discuss 13:00, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. I really must insist that the edit request must be specific and include reliable sources to support it. I am closing the request for now, but once you have made the edit request in an 'x to y' fashion and provided the necessary references, you may reopen it. Slomo666 (talk) 20:34, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
- okay, I didn't think that this would turn out so complicated. As a sidenote, I also want to remind you both kindly of WP:NOTCITE (general common knowledge). But nonetheless, I followed up with some citation.
- In case it wasn't clear from the start:
- In the History chapter, subchapter Ancient history, instead of
- "The southern coast gradually consolidated into the Bosporan Kingdom which was annexed by Pontus in Asia Minor and later became a client kingdom of Rome from 63 BCE to 341 CE"
- change it please to
- "The southern coast gradually consolidated into the Bosporan Kingdom, which was later incorporated into the Kingdom of Pontus in Asia Minor and subsequently became a client state of the Roman Empire from 63 BCE. Roman influence in the region persisted into Late Antiquity, incrementally transitioning into the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) sphere.[1]"
- and in the subchapter Medieval history, instead of
- "The south coast remained Greek in culture for almost two thousand years including under Roman successor states, the Byzantine Empire (341–1204 CE), the Empire of Trebizond (1204–1461 CE), and the independent Principality of Theodoro (ended 1475 CE)"
- please change it to
- "The south coast remained predominantly Greek in culture for nearly two millennia, including under the Eastern Roman Empire (commonly known as the Byzantine Empire), the Empire of Trebizond (1204–1461 CE), and the independent Principality of Theodoro (until 1475 CE).[2]" Tetrarchyenjoyer (talk) 11:33, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, I got your point. As per wikipedia terms and policies, nothing can be added without any reliable soures. Thus, if you have any secondary reliable source, Independent article etc supporting your change then please provide us. Thank you. Regards, VerdictByLogic - Let's Discuss 13:00, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
Why Crimea not stable
[edit]Crimea not stable because some groups of humans have access to rooms underbuildings, and this rooms underbuildings lead to underground tunnels, which lead to more deep undercountries tunnels.
If some terroristic groups have access to mechanisms of influence on stability Crimea, they influence on all stability. With stories which explane why Crimea was changed position and what exactly again happened.
There no believes in stories , this game in humans death with distribution property is deadly dangerous with all organised criminal groups involved. ~2026-36562-56 (talk) 10:39, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- ↑ Iris von Bredow, Chersonesus, Brill's New Pauly Online, 2006, ISBN 1574-9347. (retrieved 20th April 2026)
- ↑ Omeljan Pritsak, Crimea, The Oxford Dictionary of Byzantium, 1991, ISBN 978-0195046526. (retrieved 20th April 2026)
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