Talk:Breve

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I've added it to the encoding table, but I don't know anything of how it's used. --82.36.25.115 (talk) 02:03, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Turkish use of Ğ/ğ isn't entirely true. It is said in the article that ğ is between 2 vowels which is incorrect (i.e. "dağlar" meaning "mountains"). And also it isn't silent. The letter changes the tone. Alone it has remotely similar sound as french "r", but not as sharp. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.68.203.234 (talk) 11:16, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Unicode ü̆ vs. ǚ

"the breve cannot be used as a substitute [for the pinyin caron] in computer environments because Unicode does not provide an equivalent of ǚ with a breve"

That is false. Unicode does not include a ü-breve as a precomposed character, but it allows us to compose it: ü̆ Ü̆. (Not that I see why one should want to use the breve as a substitute for the caron.)

If there's no objection, I'd remove that whole sentence; I don't think it contributes anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.55.131.169 (talk) 01:59, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Latin script?

Ӂ (the equivalent of G before E or I in the Latin script)

I think this is rather unclear. Isn't this supposed to mean "G before E or I in English"? After all, how is a letter pronounced in a script?

Ruittenb (talk) 20:26, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

When Moldovan is written in Latin letters, G has a soft form as in Italian. —Tamfang (talk) 06:32, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

ears

The traditional Cyrillic breve differs in shape and is thicker on the edges of the curve and thinner in the middle, compared to the Latin one. In Latin types, the shape looks like ears.

In Cyrillic it looks to me like Mickey Mouse ears; perhaps to you the Latin breve looks like some other kind of ear(s)? —Tamfang (talk) 06:34, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Why breve on H and h are shown under the letter?

Why breve on H and h are shown under the letter in the template on the top of this page? The breve is shown above the letter for all other cases. --Vssun (talk) 05:12, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Corrected the template: {{Letters with breve}} --Vssun (talk) 05:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@Vssun Traditional editions of Spanish vocal sheet music use the 'breve below' to indicate elision. (letter sound not pronounced, silent.) Modern editions tend to use a (freestanding) underscore. Robb009 (talk) 08:18, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

I with breve or hacek?

The "Other Uses" section says "I-breve (Ǐ, ǐ) is used in the dialects of Crimean Tatar language spoken in Romania." but it shows a caron (hacek) instead. Is this actually a reference to I-caron that belongs in the Caron article, or is it a reference to a use of I-breve that needs the examples corrected? 173.11.109.149 (talk) 17:12, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Turkish

In Turkish, ğ lengthens the preceding vowel. It is thus placed between two vowels and is silent in standard Turkish ...

It is between vowels in Erdoğan, but not in –oğlu (which i believe is a patronymic suffix). Can the bolded phrase be removed? —Tamfang (talk) 03:00, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Dictionary respelling usage

It seems odd that this article entirely fails to mention the use of the breve in American dictionary pronunciation respelling to indicate vowel quality (mistakenly called "length" in school but bearing only historical connection to actual phonetic length). 128.30.10.65 (talk) 18:04, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia is created by volunteers like you, so if you can find a wp:reliable source that defines this usage, feel free to add it (or put a draft here, if you prefer). Thank you in advance. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 18:11, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Breve in IPA

@Oklopfer, can breve in IPA used separatedly, where as breve above ⟨˘⟩ used in vowel (e.g. /ă/ and /ə̆/, found in Vietnamese) and breve below ⟨ ̮⟩ used in consonant, as /ɢ̮, ʎ̮, ʟ̮/; but still the same to avoid clash with a letter with ascender/descender (e.g. /ɪ̮̈/ and /ɡ̆/)? Señor verde (talk) 22:58, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

@Señor verde you wouldn't transcribe a vowel with the regular breve, but with an inverted one, such as ⟨ɪ̯̈ y̑⟩; but yes, they can be used in this fashion. I strongly suggest you take a look at https://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode17.0.0/UnicodeStandard-17.0.pdf figure 7-14. (if you do a ctrl+f for '7-14' it should come up right away) oklopfer (💬) 23:20, 25 September 2025 (UTC)