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Latest comment: 7 days ago by Dare2Leap in topic Potentially notable source assessment 9/27/2026

Source assessment 10/21/2025

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Latest comment: 23 days ago4 comments3 people in discussion
Source assessment table prepared by User:GranCavallo
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
~ Part of the article is an interview with a Hermitcraft member Yes Considered situational, but reliable after August 2020. WP:VALNET Yes ~ Maybe
Yes Yes Considered situational, but reliable after after August 2020. WP:VALNET Yes ✔ Yes
Yes ~ WP:SCREENRANT No Entry in a list. ✘ No
No Video by Hermitcraft administrator Xisumavoid. Yes Yes ✘ No
Yes Yes Reliable, but not for Featured Articles. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources#Esports Yes ✔ Yes
Yes Yes ~ About a quarter of a page worth of content. ~ Maybe
Yes ~ Considered situational WP:VALNET Yes ~ Maybe
~ Includes original interview quotes from Hermitcraft member JoeHills. Yes Yes ~ Maybe
Yes Yes Reliable, but not for Featured Articles. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources#Esports Yes ✔ Yes
Yes ~ WP:SCREENRANT No Entry in a list. ✘ No
Yes Yes Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources#Platform-specific No Trivial mention. ✘ No
Yes Yes ? Unknown
Yes ~ Considered situational WP:VALNET No Trivial mention. ✘ No
Yes ~ Considered situational WP:VALNET Yes ~ Maybe
No Publisher collaborates with HermitCraft Yes Yes ✘ No
No Publisher collaborates with HermitCraft Yes Yes ✘ No
No Publisher collaborates with HermitCraft Yes Yes ✘ No
No Publisher collaborates with HermitCraft Yes Yes ✘ No
Yes ~ SUNY student newspaper. WP:RSSM Yes ~ Maybe
No Publisher collaborates with HermitCraft Yes Yes ✘ No
Yes Yes No Trivial mention. ✘ No
Yes No WP:DISTRACTIFY Yes ✘ No
Yes Yes No Trivial mention in a list. ✘ No
Yes ~ University of Michigan student newspaper WP:RSSM ~ More than a trivial mention, but not a lot. ~ Maybe
No Obituary by decesed member's family. No ✘ No
No Tweet from official Twitter account. Yes No ✘ No
Yes Yes No Little more than a trivial mention. ✘ No
Yes ~ University of Michigan student newspaper. WP:RSSM No Trivial mention ✘ No
Yes ~ DePaul University student research journal. WP:RSSM Yes ~ Maybe
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

I have done a source assessment for the article as it is as of 10/21/2025 (Permalink).

As the article currently stands, there are three articles from two sources that can wholly contribute to establishing notability. and eight articles from six other sources that can partially contribute to notable. I think the article is close to meeting the general notability guidelines, if it does not already meet them.

GranCavallo (talk) 19:34, 21 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

I think https://tribune.com.pk/story/2511824/harassment-allegations-surface-after-minecraft-youtuber-iskall85-resigns is also a good source for this. The Express Tribune seems to be a reliable major newspaper. Obsidian the Fox 02:15, 21 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Definitly feels insane to me that a group with as much (internet) culture weight as Hermitcraft doesnt have its own page. Since the last audit, ~6 months ago, there have been some significant artiles about hermitcraft (rather than the SMP members), primarily about their outreach work: 1) https://www.khaosodenglish.com/life/socialmedia/2026/08/19/hermitcraft-charity-brings-thailands-first-hospital-gaming-go-kart/ 2) https://www.thelamron.com/arts-and-entertainment/the-hermitcraft-charity-event-and-17-million-raised-for-gamers-outreach 3) https://www.superjumpmagazine.com/hermitcraft-hermits-speak-about-the-new-season/

Would it be useful for me to take a bash at updating, and integrating some new articles? Corhen (talk) 22:52, 10 September 2026 (UTC)Reply

I was thinking the other day that I should do another source assessment and maybe try re-submitting it for creation. At this point, I don't think there is any problem with the sources. The problem is that years ago, Hermitcraft articles repeatedly got created and then deleted for not having any sources, and creating a new article on the mainspace got blocked. Most if not all the sources cited in the draft have been written since then. Theoretically, an article getting deleted for lack of notability shouldn't have any impact on creating a new article once the subject does become notable, but in practicality, it does. GranCavallo (talk) 00:16, 11 September 2026 (UTC)Reply


Source assessment 9/10/2026

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Latest comment: 23 days ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Source assessment table prepared by User:GranCavallo
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
~ Part of the article is an interview with a Hermitcraft member Yes Considered situational, but reliable after August 2020. WP:VALNET Yes ~ Maybe
Yes Yes Considered situational, but reliable after after August 2020. WP:VALNET Yes ✔ Yes
Yes ~ WP:SCREENRANT No Entry in a list. ✘ No
No Video by Hermitcraft administrator Xisumavoid. Yes Yes ✘ No
Yes Yes Reliable, but not for Featured Articles. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources#Esports Yes ✔ Yes
Yes Yes ~ About a quarter of a page worth of content. ~ Maybe
Yes ~ Considered situational WP:VALNET Yes ~ Maybe
~ Includes original interview quotes from Hermitcraft member JoeHills. Yes Yes ~ Maybe
Yes Not familiar with this source, will check back Yes ? Unknown
Yes No Most articles on the website appear to be Canadian SEO spam. Should probably be removed ~ ✘ No
Yes No Indian news site. Using the NBC logo as favicon, but does not appear to be affiliated with NBC. Seems sketchy. Yes ✘ No
Yes Yes Major Pakistani newspaper. Yes ✔ Yes
Yes Yes Reliable, but not for Featured Articles. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources#Esports Yes ✔ Yes
Yes ~ WP:SCREENRANT No Entry in a list. ✘ No
Yes Yes Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources#Platform-specific No Trivial mention. ✘ No
Yes Yes Yes ✔ Yes
Yes ~ Considered situational WP:VALNET No Trivial mention. ✘ No
Yes ~ Considered situational WP:VALNET Yes ~ Maybe
No Publisher collaborates with HermitCraft Yes Yes ✘ No
No Publisher collaborates with HermitCraft Yes Yes ✘ No
No Publisher collaborates with HermitCraft Yes Yes ✘ No
No Publisher collaborates with HermitCraft Yes Yes ✘ No
No Publisher collaborates with HermitCraft Yes Yes ✘ No
Yes ~ SUNY student newspaper. WP:RSSM Yes ~ Maybe
No Publisher collaborates with HermitCraft Yes Yes ✘ No
Yes Yes Yes ✔ Yes
Yes Yes Thai newspaper Yes ✔ Yes
Yes Yes No Trivial mention. ✘ No
Yes No WP:DISTRACTIFY Yes ✘ No
Yes Yes No Trivial mention in a list. ✘ No
~ Interview with Hermits Yes Yes ~ Maybe
Yes Yes Yes ✔ Yes
Yes ~ University of Michigan student newspaper WP:RSSM ~ More than a trivial mention, but not a lot. ~ Maybe
No Obituary by decesed member's family. Yes No ✘ No
No Tweet from official Twitter account. Yes No ✘ No
Yes Yes No Little more than a trivial mention. ✘ No
Yes ~ University of Michigan student newspaper. WP:RSSM No Trivial mention ✘ No
Yes ~ DePaul University student research journal. WP:RSSM Yes ~ Maybe
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Almost a year later, I have done another source assessment. I believe that there are now enough sources to establish notability. While re-doing the source assessment, I found a couple of questionable sources that should probably be removed. I will work more on this tomorrow. GranCavallo (talk) 01:07, 11 September 2026 (UTC)Reply

Potentially notable source assessment 9/27/2026

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Latest comment: 7 days ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Here are three top sources that potentially meets WP:GNG and WP:100WORDS:

  • La Repubblica; a national Italian newspaper and listed in WP:News sources/Italy; entire article about Hermitcraft and at least 145 words (untranslated) of relevant content.]
  • Lancaster University published PhD thesis (PDF archive); about 742 words of relevant content.
  • FANMADE magazine; entire article about Hermitcraft. Although User:Athanelar said, This one isn't terrible. I wouldn't call it great either, especially considering it's from a site which describes itself as made by fan creators, for fan creators. I'd be fine with this with some other good sources to support it.

And here are 5 more candidates:

More sources are assessed below.

This is my (Dare2Leap) assessment of the potential sources:

Source assessment table prepared by User:Dare2Leap
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
"Hermitcraft Season 11 has begun – here's what to expect". FANMADE magazine. Retrieved 2026-09-27.
 ~ Made by fan creators, for fan creators Yes Yes ~ Maybe
Writers, Daily Digital Culture (2024-02-25). "Digital Culture's Week in a Minute: Hermitcraft, Xbox and jet planes, oh my!". The Michigan Daily. Retrieved 2026-09-27.
 Yes ~ University of Michigan student newspaper. WP:RSSM ~ The mention is a long paragraph; equivalent to two typical length paragraphs. ~ Maybe
Jere, Leena (2023). Baxter, Jane Eva (ed.). "AN ANALYSIS OF PHATIC BODY LANGUAGE IN MINECRAFT" (PDF). Creating Knowlege: The LAS Journal of Undergraduate Scholarship. 16. Chicago, IL: DePaul University: 100–106. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2024-06-04. Retrieved 24 September 2025.
 Yes Yes ~ Although about 2 pages long, it discusses the Hermits' movements, not the Hermits themselves ~ Maybe
Weil, Alana. "Hermitcraft Season X Review Part One". The Voyager. Retrieved 2026-09-27.
 Yes ~ Eastern Regional High School student news website WP:RSSM Yes ~ Maybe
Barbour, Kim; Adams, Caitlin; Osman, Tariq. "Popular Culture Working Group - Playing politics in Minecraft: Monarchy, rebellion, and just staying out of it in YouTube series Hermitcraft" (PDF). Lithuanian Academic Electronic Library. International Association for Media and Communication Research. p. 68. Retrieved 22 September 2026.
 Yes Yes Yes Research paper abstract; an entire page/three long paragraphs ✔ Yes


University, Emily Davies, Solent (2020-12-10). "Minecraft Survival Multiplayer Servers Can Be Fun When They're Not Toxic". Study Breaks. Retrieved 2026-09-27.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
 Yes ~ General university news site WP:RSSM; see User:PantheonRadiance's opinion on Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Llamas_with_Hats Yes ~ Maybe
Line, HPSH Plaid (2024-12-20). "'Hungry Hermits' A game by Tangotek made in Minecraft!". Plaid Line + PRIZM + Scottie News. Retrieved 2026-09-27.
 Yes ~ Highland Park Scots student news site WP:RSSM ~ Discusses a minigame within Hermitcraft ~ Maybe
AB, Mojang (2024-10-15). The World of Minecraft. Random House Worlds. ISBN 978-0-593-72249-7.
 Yes Yes ~ As per User:GranCavallo: About a quarter of a page worth of content. ~ Maybe
Ciobanu, Otilia (2025-12-10). "Can Minecraft teach Archaeology?". Archived from the original on 2026-04-18.
 Yes No Self-published source and he's just an archaeology student at Leiden University. Yes Four paragraphs worth of content. ✘ No
Barbour, Kim. Digital Gaming Intimacies Summit | RMIT Games | Digital Design. RMIT Games. Event occurs at 48:46-1:11:34. Retrieved 2026-09-28 – via www.youtube.com.
 Yes Yes Although on YouTube, Dr. Kim Barbour did not create the video; RMIT Games as the publisher did. Yes 23 minutes of related content (48:46-1:11:34). ✔ Yes
Behler, Christian (2021-07-07). "From Dirt Huts to Hermitcraft". SUPERJUMP. Retrieved 2026-09-28.
 Yes Yes Although on Medium, this was published by SUPERJUMP magazine before they moved to their own website, superjumpmagazine.com. The magazine has already been assessed by User:GranCavallo as reliable. Yes Five paragraphs worth of content. ✔ Yes
Agius, Kyle; Lerkviks, Birk (6 January 2025). "How Emergent Gameplay in Minecraft Brings its Community Closer". SSRN: 3, 7.
 Yes Yes ~ Two-three paragraphs worth of content. ~ Maybe
Yes Yes ~ At least two paragraphs worth of content. ~ Maybe
Maftei, Alex (2025-10-03). "Wyrusz w Przygodę - Odkryj Idealny Serwer Minecraft". Minecraft.How (in Polish). Retrieved 2026-09-29.
 No WP:TRADES Yes Six paragraphs worth of content. ✘ No
Lee, Sarah (2025). Unpacking the Code: Game modification as a form of queer play (PDF) (Thesis). Lancaster University. pp. 153–158.
 Yes Yes Yes Five pages of content. ✔ Yes
Barbour, Kim (2023). "ANZCA 2023 Ka mua, ka muri: Bridging communication pasts and futures" (PDF). Blue Ocean Marketing. p. 216.
 Yes Yes Yes ✔ Yes
Yes Yes ~ The author specifically mentions Hermitcraft as a subject of analysis, however, without a full paper, it's difficult to verify. ~ Maybe
Yes Yes No Two mentions on a table. ✘ No
Rothery, Jen (8 January 2021). "The best Minecraft YouTubers". PCGamesN. Archived from the original on 2021-12-18.
 Yes Yes No 83 words long/a long paragraph. ✘ No
Rose, Danielle (17 December 2021). "The best Minecraft Youtubers to watch in 2022". WePC. Archived from the original on 2021-12-18.
 Yes Yes Although from a PC review website, the author, Danielle Rose, has since written for PCGamesN and GamesRadar+, which are reliable publications. Yes 180 words or two paragraphs, one medium and one long, of relevant content. ✔ Yes
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Dr. Kim Barbour, a media scholar from Adelaide University, has 4 presentations related to Hermitcraft:

After I searched for "hermitcraft" on the Irish Independent, it returns this result, but it's paywalled:

After joining WP:TWL, I found a list of potential sources that require it for full access:

Source assessment table prepared by User:Dare2Leap
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
Yes Yes No One word mention ✘ No
Hawley, Erin (2022), "Young Explorers in Virtual Ecosystems: Environmental Empathy in Animated and Digital Worlds", Environmental Communication for Children, Cham: Springer International Publishing, pp. 155–187, doi:10.1007/978-3-031-04691-9_6, ISBN 978-3-031-04690-2, retrieved 2026-09-29{{citation}}: CS1 maint: work parameter with ISBN (link) (Springer)
 Yes Yes No Although the mention is 2 pages long, it only discusses a hermit, MumboJumbo, and his theme in Season 8 ✘ No
Barbour, Kim (2023). Women and Persona Performance. Cham: Springer International Publishing. doi:10.1007/978-3-031-33152-7. ISBN 978-3-031-33151-0. (Springer) (https://books.google.com/books?id=FxbNEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA129 for the book's sample)
 Yes Yes ~ More down below. ~ Maybe
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

For the last citation, Women and Persona Performance, the book's sample was deemed non-significant by User:Athanelar because it discusses Minecraft YouTubers in general, not Hermitcraft. But, in page 136-140, some of which isn't available on the book sample, there's a table (page 136) that shows the list of players the author analyzed, and three of the Hermits (at the time), PearlescentMoon, Stressmonster101, and ZombieCleo, are listed. Then, the author discusses their skin design (and one more Hermit for this one, FalseSymmetry) and behavior for two paragraphs (the aforementioned Hermits except FalseSymmetry specifically get mentioned for a paragraph), and then discusses the aforementioned Hermits' builds for a paragraph.

...PearlescentMoon completed an extensive terraforming task producing a mountain range in her video, she flew around the location, saying, 'And yes, I did build the back.' (PearlescentMoon's Season 8: Episode 7 (20:02))

Taking advantage of Minecraft’s mapping tools, ZombieCleo worked to redevelop a large-scale typeface for an in-game newspaper; ...ZombieCleo’s episode also demonstrated her facility with ingame sculpture as she used a data pack to produce highly detailed armour stand elements... (ZombieCleo's Season 7: Episode 10)

This might be significant coverage if combined with the occasional mention in the book sample.

I did not include https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-59908-9 because the relevant pages that discuss Hermitcraft, 99 and 179, are fully accessible through the book's sample at Google Books.

@Bonadea, I did mean that the full version will be restored if the draft is accepted. But what didn't mean is to restore the full version without edits. As I changed the condensed version to add more promising sources, I forgot or didn't care to mention that. If the draft is accepted, the full version will be reviewed and merged case by case, step by step, with edits if needed, and it will include the condensed version's new citations if appropriate. Thanks. |)are2|_eap (Talk) 12:00, 27 September 2026 (UTC)Reply

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