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How to view edit history of deleted pages

How do I view edit history of deleted pages without Wayback machine? Fence127 (talk) 17:27, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Become an administrator - which requires surviving some sort of Hell Week. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 17:32, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Wasn't there some off-wiki service that allowed you to do this? Like wayback machine but only for Wikipedia. Fence127 (talk) 17:37, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

That was Deletionpedia, but it has been shutdown. MKFI (talk) 19:05, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I tried 'wikibin', but it doesn't show categories which is what I'm looking for. Fence127 (talk) 19:21, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

You can view the metadata (authors+timestamps) of deleted pages using User:SD0001/deleted-metadata-link.js. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:47, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I want to view the actual page before it was deleted. Fence127 (talk) 17:51, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

@Fence127: Which page and why do you want to view it? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:40, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

A category that has been G1 (patent nonsense) speedy deleted. I want to know what was on it. I remember reading it before it got deleted. Fence127 (talk) 19:44, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I edited it too. Fence127 (talk) 19:44, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

@Fence127: You created Category:Draft namespace move redirects wiht this content:

[[File:Symbol redirect vote2.svg]]
''This category is for drafts that were moved to another namespace.''
==M==
[[Draft:Mokhtar Adbelatif Stadium]]

The only other edit was adding {{db-nonsense}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:47, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I created a sandbox test with the wiki text in the box. Only the icon showed up way too big. That was the only issue. Fence127 (talk) 06:52, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

@Fence127: I don't know what your intention was but it appears you don't know how categories work or what move means. Draft:Mokhtar Adbelatif Stadium had not been moved before it was deleted and that's not how you place a page in a category. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:30, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Now I do. This was a long time ago. Fence127 (talk) 14:15, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Move means rename and/or move into another namespace. Fence127 (talk) 14:39, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

@Fence127: Then maybe you could create a meaningful category today but I still don't know its purpose. Many drafts were moved to mainspace to become articles. Some poor articles were moved to the draft namespace. Some userspace drafts were moved to the draft namespace as a preferred location. Some draftspace drafts were moved to the userspace of the author. Some drafts were randomly moved by vandals or confused editors and maybe moved back. Which of these or what else would the category be for and why does it need a category? It's hard to tell when the only example is a page which was never actually moved. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:18, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

I don't understand what you're asking me. Fence127 (talk) 15:34, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

@Fence127: You appear unhappy that Category:Draft namespace move redirects was deleted and said the only issue was the icon size. I'm trying to explain there were other issues which should be addressed if you want to create the category. If you don't then I'm not asking for anything. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:57, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

OK. I am just asking out of curiosity, not trying to restore the old page. Fence127 (talk) 18:47, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Howard Keel

You did not write about his movie in 1962 “The Unsinkable Molly Brown” with Debbie Reynolds! It was a fantastic movie. This was a great movie featuring Mr. Keel’s singing and the great Debbie Reynolds. This was not included in his bio! ~2026-52204-86 (talk) 20:02, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ~2026-52204-86 we have an article The Unsinkable Molly Brown (film) - but that does not mention Howard Keel at all. If you think we have missed something, please provide a reference from a WP:Reliable source about his role in the movie. - Arjayay (talk) 20:07, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

The Unsinkable Molly Brown (film) was released in 1964, not 1962, and there is no indication in that article that Howard Keel appeared in it.

It was based on The Unsinkable Molly Brown (musical) of 1960. Again, Howard Keel did not appear in that initial production. He did appear in a touring stage production of the musical in 1971 and 1973.

You may have mistaken the movie's actual lead actor Harve Presnell for Howard Keel: they are not unalike. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-41275-62 (talk) 20:16, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Howard Keel#Stage work says The Unsinkable Molly Brown (1971–1972; 1973). There is no sign he was in the film. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:28, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

SensCritique

need to change 2700 occurrences of SensCritique and senscritique.com to SensCritique

see:

• https://www.senscritique.com/
• {{ill|SensCritique|fr|SensCritique}}

need bot or script

Xo4v (talk) 22:40, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Bot requests. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 02:38, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Date of birth and AutoWikiBot

At Talk:Cathy Dennis#Date of birth and other claims there was consensus to remove the birth date per Cathy's request and WP:DOB. I thought the year should have been kept, but the editors working the page decided to nuke the whole thing.

The problem is that anyone using autowikibot will see a suggestion to add Category:Year of birth missing (living people). What is the best way to let autowikibot users know that this isn't a case of someone forgetting to add a DOB? Will they see a HTML comment?

Alternatively, should I just push harder to have the year listed? Cathy seemed to be concerned about her birthday being published, not her age. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:10, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

If the consensus was to remove everything including the year, then perhaps pushing hard to get it re-added might not be a good idea because the others involved might start wrongly accusing you of WP:IDHT. If the consensus was unclear on the year, however, then seeking further clarification should be OK. As for the autowikibot stuff, perhaps Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser (I think that's the same thing) would be the place query about that. Someone had to have created the bot and someone has to be monitoring it, Maybe "Request a feature" is the place to suggest such a change if needed; it's possible noone anticipated such an issue. Other than that, you could try leaving WP:HIDDEN notes in the text (near anywhere Dennis's DOB might be added and at the top of the categories section) asking those wanting to do so to check the article's talk page first. You might also want to suggest somehow fixing that discussion on the article's talk page so that it doesn't get archived (if the page is set up to archive). I'm not sure of the technical side of doing such a thing, but it would be helpful for the relevant discussion to always be on the article's talk page if you're going to make reference to in hidden notes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:24, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Featured Article edits

Is there any process for monitoring edits to FAs, to ensure they remain "the best articles Wikipedia has to offer"? I'm watching one which has had 66 edits in the last 24 hours. I'm not saying they're detrimental, because I don't know enough about the subject to give an opinion, but I notice one prolific, apparently good faith, editor is a registered user with no user page, less than 6 months on WP, and a talk page discussing their past errors with other articles. I'm feeling uncomfortable that a FA is being significantly edited without any monitoring. Masato.harada (talk) 11:58, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

It would be very surprising if no-one has that article on their watchlist.

Today's FA, Valley Parade, for example, has 39 page watchers. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:26, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Preventing things from being edited, "just in case", is regarded as being against core Wikipedia policy. An article can usually only get protected after there is clearly an ongoing problem with that article - not because there could be one later. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:18, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi Masato.harada. I'm a bit late to the party perhaps, but I respond anyway. Due the extensive review (at least compared to other articles) an article needs to undergo to be granted FA status, most of them probably have multiple stewards watching for anything that might detract from their FA status. Of course, this doesn't mean that they can't be vandalized or subjected to otherwise sub-standard editing, but it does generally mean someone will notice when they are. If you feel the edits you're referring to above are sub-standard in terms of relative Wikipedia policies/guidelines, you can of course WP:FIXIT yourself or revert back to last stable version per WP:STATUSQUO. You should leave an edit summary explaining why you did what you did and maybe even follow that up with a post on the article's talk page. If you're more of a WP:CAUTIOUS type, you can start a discussion about the edits on the article's talk page first, and notify others per WP:APPNOTE: I believe all FA have a template at the top of their talk pages telling who reviewed the article and when they did so. Just for reference, according to Category:Wikipedia former featured articles, there are quite a lot of articles which have been demoted from FA status; so, it's not like once an FA, always an FA. I'd imagine that most of these had nothing to do with random vandalism or bad editing and everything to due with different interpretations of or changes in the FA criteria over the years. It's sometimes helpful to remember WP:CCC when it comes to Wikipedia.

Finally, someone not having a user page isn't really a good indicator of their contributions to Wikipedia. There are lots of users who have been improving articles regularly for years that have (for whatever reason) decided not to make a user page, and there are lots users who been editing for years who only seem to spend their time making edits in their user space: often the first thing they do is create their user page. I'm only making this comment because you didn't identify the specific user that led you to posting here (you don't need to do that). If that user is making bad edits, it almost certainly has nothing to do with them not having a user page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:04, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

OK, thanks to you both. I'm more comfortable now. Masato.harada (talk) 06:51, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

What is a 6 20 621962 W.cronkite earliest 15 minute broadcast worth

did cbs copy rite june 20 1962 broadcast in 1990 ~2026-52381-54 (talk) 13:02, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

This is not a general help desk, sorry 331dot (talk) 13:14, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

2027–28 United States Television Schedule

Can you please create a draft for the 2027-28 United States Television Schedule please. ~2026-52401-64 (talk) 15:07, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

This isn't the place to request an article, that's requested articles(which admittedly is severely backlogged). Also see WP:CRYSTAL. 331dot (talk) 15:10, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

New article created despite an existing draft

I created Draft:Daktar Kaku on 27 September. Today, when I was about to move it to mainspace, I noticed that another editor had directly created Daktar Kaku on 28 September. Daktar Kaku is poorly developed, poorly formatted and has limited sourcing. Whereas Draft:Daktar Kaku is substantially developed, well sourced and well formatted.

When a draft already exists, editors are generally encouraged to work on the existing draft rather than create a separate article. In this case, the mainspace article was created after my draft. I came to know about it only when I was preparing to move my completed draft to mainspace.

What would be the appropriate way to proceed here? Should the existing article be replaced by the draft....or is there another procedure I should follow? BhikhariInformer‬ 📮 ^{(Ping me or else I won't see it)} 15:03, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

I would first attempt to discuss the situation with the creator of the article and try to collaborate. 331dot (talk) 15:12, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

About a

How to download wikipedia aap,I can't download on my device,because its showing this aap is not compitable with your device,what should i do ~2026-52307-12 (talk) 10:19, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-52307-12: What is your device including version number or similar, and where are you trying to download the app? It's very limited what the app adds over the normal browser interface and it omits other things. You can do fine without it. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:27, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

How do I create a map?

Hi, I'm just wondering how I create a map with pinpoints of different locations, for example the places someone who is missing was last seen. I've created some pages where I would like to add maps, but I'm not really sure how to do it. Thank you. ItsShandog (talk) 07:42, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Less than a week ago, ItsShandog, I could have written the same message (aside from the bit about the last sightings of the missing). Essential reading: WP:WikiProject Maps. You might use Template:Location map many. (The "many" in the name is to suggest the possibility of many markers, but the template works well for a single marker, and of course allowing many markers lets you add "workplace", "body found" or whatever.) You may well go dizzy when first trying to make sense of map construction. Certainly I did. But I took a break, resolving to return to the matter when wider awake. That worked. Best of luck with your cartographical adventures, -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 09:42, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for the help. ItsShandog (talk) 09:48, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Template:OSM Location map may be preferable. Darrelljon (talk) 16:18, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Corrections and Additions for my wikipedia page named as G V N Raju

I am GVN Raju, How to correct my date of birth, it was showing as 28th March 1964 and 26th March 1964. it should be corrected as 28th March 1963 as per my aadhar card. I also want to bring to your notice some of recent year achievements (with all press clipping proofs ) needs to be uploaded. please guide to whom I need to share.

GVNRAJU1963 (talk) 16:06, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: G. V. N. Raju --Finngall ^talk 16:32, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

In re the DoB, I'm removing it wholesale as unsourced. (No, we cannot use government IDs as sources for that.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 16:33, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm also going to BHFH the sources:

Bastard Helper From Hell source assessment

• We can't use https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRCtroe4Qrg (unknown provenance) and even if we could, it wouldn't help for eligibility (connexion to subject).
• https://web.archive.org/web/20170226141359/http://gvnraju.com/media1.html doesn't help for eligibility (too sparse). The article may as well be written by Raju for how much it actually reports on him instead of his speech.
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxGcidQU-A8 doesn't help for eligibility (connexion to subject). News segment where he is interviewed.
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW-l3XkSZ9A doesn't help for eligibility (connexion to subject). News segment where he is interviewed.
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AitUE53mzUs doesn't help for eligibility (connexion to subject). News segment where he is interviewed.
• Kinige.com is 404-compliant (redirects to browser's generic "server not found" page).
• https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/a-revealing-and-refreshing-counselling-session-for-students-taking-up-higher-education/article8043780.ece doesn't help for eligibility (SIGCOV|too sparse). Just like the last The Hindu article, the article merely paraphrases his speech without saying much of anything about Raju.
• https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-educationplus/hbs-gets-national-excellence-award/article8265113.ece has been discussed and dismissed. The relevant part of this piece was already covered in the archived The Hindu source.
• https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-educationplus/oral-communication-is-a-mandatory-skill/article7340306.ece doesn't help for eligibility (too sparse). Once again, paraphrasing the speech instead of discussing Raju.
• http://gvnraju.com/media2.html is 404-compliant (presents a bare-bones 404 page). Even if it weren't, neither it or anything on that domain would help for eligibility (connexion to subject).
• https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Visakhapatnam/summer-camp-focuses-on-skill-development/article8635387.ece doesn't help for eligibility (too sparse). One sentence, and it's again paraphrasing him rather than discussing him.
• https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/infatuation-with-safe-jobs-is-why-country-lacks-entrepreneurs/article6900166.ece doesn't help for eligibility (too sparse). Stop me if you've heard this one: A source that paraphrases a speech GVN Raju made in lieu of actually discussing him.
• We can't use Amazon (online storefront. The book itself wouldn't help a whit for eligibility (connexion to subject).

None of your sources are any good, full stop and end of. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 16:51, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

First edit

I don't know why my addition to an article doesn't appear. It was my first time and I guess I could be missing a step. FutanariReiwa (talk) 20:11, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi @FutanariReiwa. I don't see any contributions from you. Did you press the Publish changes button to publish your edit? qcne (talk) 20:18, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Maybe I didn't. Is it possible that my contribution was saved somehow? FutanariReiwa (talk) 20:23, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

If you did not hit that button, then it was not saved. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 20:38, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I just made the edit successfully! FutanariReiwa (talk) 20:50, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Contribute button not highlighted

Tried incognito window, same behaviour.

I'd like to write an article about Bot Colony _Redux. Bot Colony, which had an article in Wikipedia for many years and was retired yesterday from Steam.

Bot Colony _Redux https://store.steampowered.com/app/3613080/Bot_Colony__redux/ the successor game, should be released on October 30, 2026.

As I haven't posted a lot on Wikipedia, I could use help from an editor (not sure how Wikipedia responds to these inquiries, can you kindly reply? I'll check my profile and make sure the email address is operational ).

The Bot Colony _Redux article should point to the Bot Colony article. Bot Colony _Redux is a newly developed game intended to succeed/replace Bot Colony. The article should cover the development history, impact of the emergence of Generative-AI, differences from the original Bot Colony, new content (Riot episode, a Tutorial), support for 16 languages.

Sensebased (talk) 14:10, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

@Sensebased: I guess your heading refers to the text "Contribute" in a menu. It's a heading for the following links and never a link itself. It has misled others and I pointed out the poor design in phab:T419124: "Sidebar section headings in Vector 2022 are not visually distinguishable enough from disabled links". You are certainly allowed to contribute. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:22, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Sensebased as a relatively inexperienced editor is like saying "I want to learn to be a builder. I'm going to start by building a house".

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 20:49, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

(I know your account has been there since 2015, but with only 72 edits in your history, you are still a new editor) --ColinFine (talk) 20:51, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Draft:2027 NFL season

Can You Please Fix The errors I Made On the draft 2027 NFL season page please. ~2026-52401-64 (talk) 15:45, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-52401-64.

The way to fix the errors you made is to cite the actual sources you are citing. Since you haven't done so, we don't know where the citations are supposed to point to.

Creating an article without first finding the reliable, independent, substantial secondary sources that are required (see WP:42) is like starting to build a house without surveying the plot to make sure it's suitable to build on, or checking that local laws allow you to build there: there is a very good chance that you are totally wasting your time.

Please see your first article. ColinFine (talk) 20:57, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Download wiki ap,samsung phone, without google

without Google how to download wiki ap directly? ~2026-52395-61 (talk) 20:54, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure I'm understanding your question, but the Wikipedia app is available from open source app repositories like F-Droid, as well as the Samsung Galaxy Store. See List of Wikipedia mobile apps#Wikimedia Foundation, mw:Wikimedia Apps, and meta:Wikimedia Apps for more distribution locations and information. — PeterCooperJr (talk) 02:34, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-52395-61: I'm also unsure what you mean. If you mean without the Google Chrome browser then your phone probably has Google Play Store to download apps. See https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/190860?hl=en. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:57, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Notability of biblical figures

Do we have a specific policy on the notability of people mentioned in the Bible? How about the Quran? If not. what would be the closest notability guideline? --Guy Macon (talk) 05:32, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability (people) is the policy. I don't see how being mentioned in the Bible or Quran would make any difference. Shantavira|^{feed me} 06:55, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

I think this is probably a policy gap where it would be sensible to have some kind of presumed notability. I would imagine that given the sheer volume of academic study of these texts, there must be significant coverage available for any and every named figure in them. Athanelar (talk) 10:59, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

List of biblical figures identified in extra-biblical sources is quite extensive, and they are virtually all blue links already. No doubt there are many more about whom we know nothing at all except that their name appears in the Bible. Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:14, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blastus (2010) theer were two opinions posted:

[1] "Though this individual is a biblical character, without provide additional scholarship which verifies the individual's importance (i.e. Reliable secondary sources which deal with the individual), this individual is not notable. The New Testament isn't so important in a scholarly/encyclopedic sense as to warrant articles on each named minor individual. A list perhaps, which contains individuals in said book, but not individual articles."

[2] "The Bible and Qu'ran are significant enough, and covered by so many sources, that any person mentioned in either will be the subject of significant coverage"

Now the same question appears to be surfacing at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hul (biblical figure) (ongoing AfD). --Guy Macon (talk) 12:50, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

The "Wikipedia rule" that comes to my mind first, when I read the article, is that Hul definitely does not meet SIGCOV inside the Bible. He is merely mentioned, twice, in genealogy tables. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:44, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

There is a lot of begatting in the Bible, and undoubtedly several figures who are hapax legomenona known by name only. The most famous of these would be, or so I assume, in the conflicting genealogies of Jesus. Shall research. kencf0618 (talk) 16:46, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, I would say if we did presume notability of scriptural figures then a notable exception would be anyone who is only namedropped in a genealogy. Athanelar (talk) 19:32, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

The Christian texts must be among the most-studied published works ever. Over the last 2,000 years there have probably been sufficient students of Christian theology to have analysed the Bible from end to end, many times over. This includes the apocrypha and other historical texts that, while related, are not normally bundled with those (Secret Gospel of Mark, anyone?). In these researches, these students have, between them, probably covered every single aspect of interpersonal relationships, not just the begetting. In the libraries of Oxford and Cambridge there's a wealth of published work that would satisfy WP:V, it just needs somebody to go and read it all. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:36, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

My mum became obsessed with Christianity at an early age. She even refused to marry my dad (who turned out to be a complete asshole) unless he was baptised as an Anglican, and subsequently named me, her oldest son, after Jeremiah. I feel the weight of thousands of years of biblical exegesis upon my shoulders - a bit like Atlas: thus woe unto the lot of you, and no mistake. MinorProphet (talk) 15:22, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

The result of the AfD for Hul (biblical figure) was no consensus (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hul (biblical figure) ). I was surprised, given the sourcing and the only mention in the Bible being in a couple of genealogies. I can't imagine any name mentioned in the Bible or Quran (and maybe the Book of Mormon) that doesn't have some speculation in ancient texts or Bible/Quran religious dictionaries, so it appears that they are all notable. Oh well. I seldom edit any religion page, so Not My Clown. Not My Circus. --Guy Macon (talk) 11:31, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Titles without Wikipedia page on lists.

Previous discussion: WP:HD#Standards and guidelines for video game lists

Are videogames that have no Wikipedia page allowed on lists? The pages List of ZX Spectrum games and List of Atari 8-bit computer games are full of them. If they don't have their own article it often means they're not relevant enough to be on Wikipedia. But if that's the case, should they even be on lists? AngelSparkles (talk) 19:15, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Per WP:LISTV, while I'm okay with a game that at least has a bluelink, I think redlinked games need to be supported by sources. DonIago (talk) 19:21, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

If "ZX Spectrum" has no article, then "List of ZX Spectrum Games" is definitely not allowed to exist at all. But if ZX Spectrum has an article, and there is reliable-sources proof that they really made Games A, B, and C, there is no literal rule saying that Game B must have an article to get on the list. But it's very often better to all agree to act as if that rule did exist, to avoid lists that are stupid.

However, even if everyone knows they also made Game D, Game D is absolutely not allowed on the list unless we have reliable-sources proof that it's by them. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:55, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

I'll just note here, just for unneeded posterity, that the ZX Spectrum was a console that was really popular in the UK about 40 years ago. And the article is a WP:GA! It would definitely be nice to improve the sourcing on the list. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 03:46, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

(About my "avoiding lists that are stupid": it depends what kind of list it is. Some lists are not very long even if you do include all, so then you can.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 20:10, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

In my opinion, those lists could very well be removed, because Wikipedia also has the category lists. Category:ZX Spectrum games. All games are already in there and that page isn't cluttered with red links and wrong info. It looks much cleaner. Why have 2 lists with the same purpose. AngelSparkles (talk) 18:38, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

as mentioned above, WP:LISTV has this guidance:

"Reliable sources applies equally to a list of like things as it does for the content article on each individual thing listed.".

Everything on the list page should have a citation - regardless of whether there is an individual page or not - anything unsourced can be removed. Stooob (talk) 12:39, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Commons category

Is {{Commons category}} an external link and has to be placed below ==External links== in a wiki page..?
--~2026-52848-82 (talk) 12:20, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Per the template documentation, this template should be placed at the top of the last section on the page, which is sometimes but not always ==External links==. Certes (talk) 12:39, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

How to make repetitive edits

Are there any scripts or tools that allow me to make repetitive edits (especially to wikitables) without using AI? Before being warned, I admittedly used AI to reshuffle wikitables [1]. I don't want to use AI anymore but is it there any non-AI gadget that allows me to save time dealing with tables? Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 22:17, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

@Wikipediæ philosophia: there is a help page, Help:Table, which lists tools in its external links section. You could try asking on the talk page there. I have found importing a table from Excel useful.

Page watchers, the warning is at User talk:Wikipediæ philosophia#September 2026. TSventon (talk) 12:59, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Correction of existing page + creating a new one

Hello there !

I have a few questions about an existing page, as well as a page I would like to create. I don't know where I can ask them because I am relatively new here, so I would be happy to have any kind of help and information that you have for me.

First of all, I want to be very transparent about my connection to the subjects I am asking about. I currently work for the company developing Maison Jacques Fath. Before editing anything, I would like to make sure that I follow Wikipedia’s rules about conflicts of interest and neutrality.

My questions are :

1. The link to the official website Jacques Fath was removed from the Jacques Fath page. Could you please explain why ? And what are the conditions for adding it there ?
2. Some photos related to Jacques Fath were also removed from the Jacques Fath page. I would like to know the reason for this removal and maybe a correct way to use some photos from the Jacques Fath’s archives ?
3. The last question is about creation of a separate Wikipedia page for Maison Jacques Fath as a fashion house. My team and I have a large historical documentation about Maison Jacques Fath. Clearly we will follow Wikipedia’s rules about neutrality and about the encyclopedic character of the information that is posted here. Keeping that in mind, do we need to know anything else about creating a page on Wikipedia ? Is it better to create a draft for a review for the Wikipedia users of Wikipedia admins before really posting it and reviewing it then ?

Once again, given my professional connection to Maison Jacques Fath, I want to do things right and to be transparent from the beginning due to the respect for the rules. Yulia Pod (talk) 12:35, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure has most of the relevant information for editors in your position. I don't know why the official link and images were removed, but WP:ELOFFICIAL and Wikipedia:Image use policy may be useful. It may be that the images are copyrighted or not clearly identified as having a licence allowing their reuse in Wikipedia, but that's just a guess. Certes (talk) 12:48, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello @Yulia Pod.

As part of the collaborative nature of editing Wikipedia, when somebody makes an edit that you don't like or disagree with, your first step is almost always to open a discussion with that editor, usually on the article's talk page (see WP:BRD). This is also more likely to get you the answer than asking a random collection of editors why another editor did something.

But you may also get part of the answer from looking at Special:History/Jacques Fath . I suspect that the edit on 2026-06-17T01:25:18 by a bot called "CommonsDelinker" is part of the answer, given that the edit summary was

Removing French_couturier_Jacques_Fath_in_Paris,_c._1940s.jpg; it has been deleted from Commons by Krd because: No permission since 9 June 2026.

As for creating a new article, I suggest you start by reading WP:PAIDADVICE.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. And that is even without the added complication of a conflict of interest. ColinFine (talk) 13:16, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

How do you care for orchids.

magnification ~2026-52573-71 (talk) 23:14, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia, not for general knowledge questions. Furthermore Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a guidebook. You will have to ask for advice elsewhere. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:16, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

User:Melissasrojas29 bad conduct

I was trying to help this user with their banned account, but instead used profane responces. Take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMelissarojas29&diff=1377783308. They said how the [] are you helping me?

With concern,

Bennett Li11 (talk) 03:13, 1 October 2026 (UTC)

@Bennett Li11: This seems similar to the same things you posted at the Wikipedia Teahouse about this same person. It's not clear what kind of assistance you're looking for? You tried to help this user, but they responded poorly; that kind of sucks, but that's going to happen sometimes on Wikipedia. There's really nothing anyone here at the help desk can do to change that. Some people just don't want to be helped. You're not required to interact with those who respond poorly when you try to help them; you can simply move on and leave them to their own Wikipedia fates. If their poor behavior towards others continues and becomes a pattern of violating WP:BEHAVIOR that no longer can be ignored, it will end up being eventually discussed at one of the administrator's noticeboards and most likely result in the account being formally warned to stop or even blocked. My personal opinion is that you're being WP:TROLLed, and you should just follow WP:DENY. FWIW, the temporary account that was posting on your user talk page has been indefinitely blocked by a Wikipedia administrator named Eskog. If another account shows up on your user talk page to continue where that one left off, don't reply. You can remove the post if you want and just ignore the account. I suggest that you then inform Eskog or another Wikipedia administrator about the new account as soon as possible. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:45, 1 October 2026 (UTC)

@Marchjuly,

I will just move on. If they make more bad comments, I will use the admins noticeboard.

Thanks,

Bennett Li11 (talk) 05:27, 1 October 2026 (UTC)

"Bad comments"? Bennett Li11, what you pointed out that they said was "How the hell are you helping me? How?" That's not something that many adult speakers of English as a first language would call "profane". Most would, I think, say that it was inoffensive. (It differs in likely offensiveness, though not in meaning, from "How the fuck are you helping me?". Indeed, it doesn't differ in meaning from plain "How are you helping me?".) -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 05:40, 1 October 2026 (UTC)

@Hoary,

They were just clearly not here to build an encyclopedia.

Cheers,

Bennett Li11 (talk) 05:55, 1 October 2026 (UTC)

Advice for poets' bibliographies/works lists

Hello! I created a couple of pages for some lesser-known poets, and I'd welcome any advice about formatting the lists of their works/selected bibliography. I have just been doing APA citations, but it looks kind of messy. Also, since it's ALL the same person, I'm not sure if having the poet's name for each entry is best.

Here are the two pages: Ernest Hartsock and Hansell Baugh.

I took a look at some other poets' pages, but I'm not seeing anything that sings to me (as my mother says! LOL), so I would welcome any advice! ArnoldEli (talk) 12:20, 1 October 2026 (UTC)

@ArnoldEli:, I randomly checked Ezra Pound#Selected works: based on that, you could remove the duplicated author from each line. You could also look at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists of works. TSventon (talk) 12:39, 1 October 2026 (UTC)

THANK you so much for the suggestions, @TSventon!! I appreciate your help! ArnoldEli (talk) 13:19, 1 October 2026 (UTC)